I am new to this hobbie and am doing my research for my first experience. Just about every review includes DATY and there is never any mention of using a dental dam or anything like that. Are guys just going down without regards to STDs? How often do guys catch something from DATY? I ask because I love DATY but want to take the proper precautions. Will the provider be offended if I break out the Saran wrap?
if you get into this hobby, you are going to take some risks. Any time any fluid is exchanged, there is a risk. However, having said that, some risks are greater than others. Bare back full service is a helluva lot more dangerous b/c you expose fluid exchange on both sides into areas that are not made to combat disease as well as say your mouth where one of saliva's main purposes is to break down matter in the mouth. Then its met w/ digestive juices whose acidity further breaks down what came in.
I have been doing DATY all my life. I absolutely love it, enjoy it and think its an important way to show a provider its not all about you. And its NEVER been a problem. Nothing beats pleasing a woman and experiencing it with her holding your head between her legs, shuttering, telling you she's going to cum, and getting your face all wet. Remember, if you're looking for GFE, that's part of the intimacy along w/ DFK and BBBJ.
Some guys use dental dams and other barriers. That's up to them. It seems to me that takes away from the pleasure of feeling the provider get wet, getting in the way of being able to gauge what exactly turns her on, and just one more element to dilute the whole experience.
Also, use your common sense. When you go down there, take a good look. I kid with the providers that I want to do my own meet and greet. We laugh but it gives me a good opportunity to pet and see. If you see anything suspicious (looks or smell), get out.
As for providers getting insulted if you pull the Saran wrap, some will. Talk to them about it BEFORE the session. You don't need a mood breaker. A provider will appreciate when concerns are spoken up front - that way both of you can decide whether a session will be worth it. Yes, for some providers its not all about the $$$$.
Choose established providers w/ good reviews. These providers generally get themselves tested regularly and are generally safer than those who are new to the business and/or have few or no reviews.
Good luck, play hard, but play w/in limits that allow you to feel comfortable.
i for one would not get offended as a provider , i am new to TER not this profession. I agree w/ Ricky except the meet and greet , it's good to be safe than sorry
i had a client that asked me if i had anything, i dont , but for that question to come across like that was a bit ignorant to me if i said no and did , then what? something to think about
What fantasy world do you live in? Talk about a subject that has been discussed to death. When was the last time a provider offered it to you for free?Would you give me her name and number. I'm not saying they might enjoy the session but the bottom line is you have to pay to play.
Sorry LVP, I'm not exactly Joe Stud, but I've had it for free on many occasions. Equally sorry but their names and numbers are none of your business. As Ricky said, "It's not always about the money", and "nice guys don't always finish last". Second quote, my words not his. Sorry it's never happened to you.
while my original meetings always involved the Benjamins, subsequent meetings - at the suggestion of the provider, not me - were off the clock.
Don't get all hot under the collar just b/c it hasn't happened to you. I'd bet a better attitude might get you some! LOL
Hey Oscar, we just had a conversation on this very topic, follow the link below. It is just my opinion but I would think many of the guys that regularly DATY have already been exposed to some of the more common STD's so really no risk to them. But if you really like it that is just a risk assesement on your part.
There is a slight risk of contracting genital herpes or HPV (genital warts) from DATY. That said, covered in-n-out is a higher risk than DATY or BBBJ. I have read this in countless medical articles. Also, when I went to college about 15 years ago, at orientation we had to go to some sex education thing. They had a gay frat boy who contracted AIDS talk to us, and then they had some educators with placards labelled with activities. They asked people in the audience to have risky behavior sorted from left to right. Again, DATY and BBBJ are less risky than covered in-n-out. I went to a top 10 school, so it wasn't some community college clowns that were making this up. This is a FACT.
Keep in mind, unless you have a tiny wee wee, that condom doesn't cover it all. The base of your wee wee will come in contact with the labia, or more. Also, condoms break or slip off. Shit happens.
I personally do uncovered DATY, but I don't penetrate. I stick to the lips and the love button. Women get more out of DATY in these areas anyway. I have not contracted any STDs yet. You have a much greater chance of contracting something by sticking it in the kitty, even if it's covered.
If a provider looks kind of skanky, and has lots of those white patches of skin from wart removal, I don't DATY, and I never repeat. Like a sushi chef, you need to inspect her gadget before you do anything. Unfortunately, herpes can spread even when sores are not evident. But again, you have a much greater chance of getting that with the ol' in-out, even with a raincoat... Saliva is a very powerful anti-infectious agent, so make sure you slobber all over her... and if you get a BBBJ, ask for it extra wet... (the way it should be, anyway!)
The best thing you can do is to bring some wet wipes and wash your wang after each pop. Also, if you do DATY, wash your lips. I usually pop a few Listerine pocket packs for good measure.
But yeah... If you're afraid of DATY, you probably shouldn't do anything at all... Stay home and jerk it, that's the safest. You'll save a lot of money too.
DATY and BBBJ are hyped in terms of risk. This is done by prude pro-abstience organizations, because they abhor the idea of oral activities... This is similar to the war on drugs, were entities like Partnership for an Unfree America have been known to lie about drugs, especially cannabis. We have a lot of prudes in this country, who want everyone to be prudes too. Then they get busted in some sleezy hotel, and cry and say "I have sinned, please forgive me", and go on to make even more money off stupid people... But I digress...
In many of the legit places in Nevada, the providers allow uncovered DATY and do BBBJ. That said, they also overcharge greatly.
Statistically speaking, DATY and BBBJ are safer than covered in-n-out. You're always taking a risk as a hobbiest, so don't fool yourself into thinking that not doing DATY or getting BBBJ's means you are safe...
Even if you stuck your bare willy in her kitty, and she had something, you still have a certain probability of catching something. Most people who catch STDs are with their partner, and doing it 5 times a day, and then passing out at night, without washing up. Just like the Valtrex commercial says, 70% of people caught it from their partner. If you're with a provider maybe once a month, and pop twice in and hour and wash up, you're not at as huge of a risk.
As you can see, I once really wondered about this, and was on the fence. I really took stock and did my homework, and this is how I feel. Many will disagree with me. That's fine. I'll stick with statistics and science, and leave the church-prude-pro-abstinence exaggerations to those who believe them...
Thanks Funk. That was very insightful, and I feel confident that you know your shit. That's great info man.
This is a subject that has been covered here time and time again, and practically beaten to death, yet it keeps resurfacing. Use the Search Messages button at the top of the Board and search for threads on DATY and you'll find all the information you'd eveer want on this subject.
And we wont blow 
-Also, Please wrap your whole body in plastic wrap
-Bring your own sheets
-Bring flip flops so you can take a shower-Never know, planter warts. All kinds of things live in our showers
- please bring your annual std checkups
-a clean towel, escorts are too broke to own any.
-some flea spray and disinfectant.
-A oxygen mask just in case the stench in our house is like the Superdome..
Other than that, you should have a great time !
Edited because my Std made me woozy and I got the wrong stadium
-- Modified on 9/26/2005 9:01:58 PM
Ciara,
You got it wrong. It was the Superdome.
Dined today for the first time in a long time. I paused right before starting and asked if it was okay. She only said "Yes", but the look on her face was, "Hell yeah it's okay! What are you waiting for?!? Get to work already! I've been needing this all day!"
Now, I've not been with many women, so I won't even start to say I can tell when a woman is getting her O, but she was using my head like it was a giant vibrator. I gave her a good time, and if you're a man with a proper sense of worth, then doing that will make you feel like... well...
I'M THE KING!!!
If you really want to enjoy this hobby, take this little bit of advice from a new guy. Always try to be the girl's best customer.