I've seen a few forum posts that talk about how folks are able to negotiate rates with the providers. I thought most providers say no negotiations (on their websites). Also, how would you do it since you can't really talk about money via email/text/etc. or even in person (for fear of LE).  

any suggestions, ideas, etc.? Or is this just a pipe dream for most people and only regulars can get lower prices?

Providers say "no negotiations" to give guys the impression they don't. They also put no sex for money on their website so take that for what it's worth. We all know negotiating is a part of life and virtually every business I am aware.

Girls will negotiate with valued clients, especially the ones seeing them often. It's just smart business sense to do so.

They will also be much more open to negotiate during certain times of year but this will vary according to the region of the country. For example, in the Northeast, late December through February are typically the times escorts are more open to taking less than what they state on their website.  

That being said, I don't negotiate one or two hour sessions. Many girls will discount the second hour and state it publically already. I see girls for usually 3 or 4 hours. For that amount of time and money, many will find it worth their while to take less than requested.

The one area where I would tell a newb to negotiate is on overnights. Some ladies are charging 3-5k for an overnighter and many will take far less.  

The big key with negotiating is not to get stuck on one girl. If you HAVE to see someone, well, that puts you in a tougher spot to negotiate. But if you play the numbers, have multiple girls in mind rather than locking in on just one, negotiating can be a win/win situation.

But like I said, negotiating is for more advanced/experienced guys. If you do incorrectly, you will get placed on gals DNS list and they can spread the word to their friends in the biz.

I hope that helps. Read up, learn more and leave the negotiations for a later date.

Good luck in the hobby

Maybe TER allows my views to counter the indoctrination that you and several others here spew? Hmmmmm...part 2.

The OP could read through your words to realize women in this biz negotiate. And almost all will take a counter offer on their overnite rate and settle for something less than advertised. You know this to be true.

Discounts and negotiating are two different animals. Discounts are offered by the "business side" i.e. the escorts and negotiating is offered by the "client side" or the hobbyist.

Being a business, you are subject to the same market forces as other businesses. One of those forces is supply and demand. Many, many women here find themselves much more open to negotiations when demand for their service is at a low. Some have bills to pay that they, not you, are responsible for. I

It is easy for you to say a woman shouldn't take $2500 instead of her advertised $3000 for an overnite. Maybe you are in a better situation then they. Should a woman reject that offer to satisfy you when that woman can pay her rent, her grocery bill or day care for her child with the money I offer? It's called win/win Julia.

Newbie guys should be able to get the truth about the hobby here, not your version of it. And yes, there are many guys who are willing to pay MSRP for things in life. I never said otherwise so no clue where you got that from, but I was not surprised to see you mistate my position.

The bottom line is this; Guys are free to make an offer. Girls are free to accept, reject or counter. Thats how a free market works. That's how America works.

I have stated numerous times here that guys should hobby any way they wish. I do not tell guys what to do. I tell them what is possible for them to do and negotiating is one of those things. Sorry if it hurts your business model. That is your job to protect not mine.

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Just wondering. How do providers share their DNS list or do they? Is it through the Providers Only board?

...newbies to negotiate. He even made a statement about DNS lists. His take on negotiating is simply one more way to do what we do here.

and a smart lady will likely offer a lower rate since she will not have to spend the time and expense to screen you every time like other potential new clients.  Plus, at that point she will likely WANT to be there... and as her stress goes down your fun might likely go up.  At least this has been my experience.  Flame away...

don't try to negotiate, esp if she is a well established provider.  You might find some new, younger providers that will haggle with you, but I wouldn't expect it with every one of them.

Once you become an established regular with a provider, she may offer you a discounted rate, but I would not recommend asking for it.  Let her set the rate, and if you do get such an offer, she is probably doing it with others too, but that's her business not yours.  In order to get a discounted rate, she may require regular visits, say once a month.

Swim

Ive seen you mention over and over again that women who aren't in as good of a place (as say Julia or some of the ladies in the GD board yesterday) should be happy to take your reduced offers.

Do you intentionally prey on ladies who are disadvantaged or appear slightly less polished (ie less experienced) and then push their boundaries?

Yes I am hiding behind an alias, and no I don't expect you to answer my questions. But it's sure nice to call it like I see it

Well the idea wasn't to negotiate with everyone but I was wondering if (being a newbie) I was missing something. Maybe I thought it was part of the process of setting up an appointment that experienced folks know about but us newbies don't. But now I realize that's not the case.  

Thanks for the clarifications. Definitely wouldn't want to get on DNS lists.

Kinda like everything else in the hobby, everyone does their own thing. I personally roll my eyes and don't even waste the time to delete the email if it's something little like negotiating, but I have seen such things shared on larger, community based lists. To each their own...

There's no way to tell where she will blacklist you, but you can avoid the why by being a generally decent person pretty easily. Most aren't that excitable as long as you're respectful