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One definitive explanation? Probably not...
Debra_Hollander See my TER Reviews 1418 reads
posted
1 / 17
Review manipulation?

Is there one, definitive explanation of what this means?    

Is it sort of a broad term that covers a variety of review issues?

Are ladies who tell guys NOT to review them unless it's 10/10 scores doing this?

 
I've had people offer to send me their reviews prior to posting so I can edit anything I don't like, but that just feels awkward to me, so I've declined.   I've even had one person do this (sent me his draft prior to posting) without first being asked or warned that he was going to do so.  
Makes me wonder if a significant percentage of ladies are requesting that gentlemen do this.

To be honest, this makes me uncomfortable.  While it does make correcting inaccuracies a little easier, I would not want to be accused of manipulating reviews.

So is that practice considered "review manipulation"?    

TIA!

 
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Alan_Nimm 509 reads
posted
2 / 17
Definitely telling a reviewer...

... to not write a review unless it's 10/10 is manipulation, IMO.  

Also telling reviewers that they must allow you to read and edit reviews before publication is manipulation, but I can understand why a provider would do this given abuses of reviews by authors.  If the sole purpose is to correct inaccuracies, I think that's fine.  If it's to influence the overall tone of the review, it's not ok.    

I had one provider ask me to run my review by her a few years ago, because she'd just had a couple of false reviews. She asked me to change one word, which I did because it didn't change the overall thrust of my review. Also a couple of times I've run reviews by providers before publishing them because there were some things we did that were outside their norms.  In one case there were no changes requested, in the other the provider suggested (not demanded) changes that improved the review!

mrfisher 108 Reviews 428 reads
posted
3 / 17
Those are all manipulations....

The only discussion about a review that is legit, is if the provider offered a service to the client that is not listed on her menu, and the provider asks (or the client inquires about) that said service not be mentioned in the review for obvious reasons.

Other than that, the client and provider should not be discussing the specifics of the review.

Oldtimemonger 447 reads
posted
4 / 17
Lot's of it

Sadly, some girls will offer discounts in exchange for good reviews. Others will try to get personal info on the guy so he is afraid to write a bad review.  

There are so many ways reviews can be manipulated that I don't know of a definitive meaning for it.

Senator.Blutarsky 470 reads
posted
5 / 17
One definitive explanation? Probably not...

I'm sure you'll get a lot of opinions though... For me, it's a matter of intent. Is the gal delibrately trying to influence the outcome in her favor? There are several methods she could use. Blackmail, coercion, etc.  

If a gentleman chooses of his own volition to consult the gal he's reviewing, then that is not manipulation IMHO

Wondering_minds 427 reads
posted
6 / 17
I have been asked...

I had one provider ask that I please not hurt their score on TER.  It flowed naturally out of the conversation we were having.  If I remember correctly the ask was made before the session really began.  It was a great time and she had nothing to worry about.

keystonekid 114 Reviews 453 reads
posted
7 / 17
In over 13 years of P4P, I have had several instances where . . .

1) a provider asked me to delete a TER review and use another review site because TER reviews are "too explicit".
2) a provider asked not to review her because she didn't want to have another review at the time [it was a great time but I complied with her wish].
3) a provider asked to email the verbiage to her first before publishing the review. She did not make any requests for any changes to what I had written.

IMHO, to ask/demand a certain score ("not unless a 10-10" or "no lower than her average"), IS MANIPULATION.

Alan_Nimm 443 reads
posted
8 / 17
I've never had a provider tell me her average score

and IMO doing so is review manipulation. Reviewers should be free to "call 'em as they see 'em."  By telling a reviewer, "My average score is X," you're (not so subtly) influencing how they'll score you.   That may not be your intent, but if a provider said that to me, that's how I'd interpret it.  

Besides, if a reviewer wants to calculate a provider's average score and take that into account when scoring her, he/she can do that themselves.

Debra_Hollander See my TER Reviews 399 reads
posted
9 / 17
Yes and no.

Here's what might not be so obvious to you: LOTS of reviewers honestly think they are HELPING  the provider out by reviewing her.  Sure, many of them only bother in order to get the free VIP days, but they truly do think that providers WANT reviews and regard them as a positive thing.  

Recently, a couple of reviewers commented to me that they hoped I liked their review that it helped me out.    At which point I pointed out that only scores higher than the lady's current average are "helpful" in terms of increasing her average and ranking.  These scores were lower than my average, and thus, detrimental.    
One guy immediately offered to ask TER to change my scores, saying,  "I should have given you 9s anyway".... not sure what that is supposed to mean lol.  He also told me he wouldn't protest if I asked TER to pull it.  I adamantly refused both offers.  

I do not want anyone giving me a score that does not reflect his honest opinion.  However, being the outspoken woman I am, I cannot allow anyone to labor under the illusion that their review is "helpful" when it is not.  All publicity is NOT good publicity.  ;-)
Posted By: Besides, if a reviewer wants to calculate a provider's average score and take that into account when scoring her, he/she can do that themselves.
 
Actually, no.  Many times, the reviewer doesn't have VIP at the time he writes the review.  So he doesn't know what the lady's typical scores are, cannot view her average, or anything along those lines.

And these scores are entirely subjective.  Lots of guys aren't really sure what they're supposed to mean and unless there was a problem, just give the same scores the lady seems to get from everyone else.  Of course, when trying to remember what a lady's scores were when he did have VIP and conducted his initial research or simply guessing?  Neither are the best method.  

I've considered mentioning some of this in my blog, but I do not wish to be accused of review manipulation or tampering.  Although, according to some, I am already guilty of this as I ask NOT to be reviewed.  I don't see how that's manipulating or tampering with the review as  I have no way of stopping anyone from writing one.  

Also, I do not ask for real reviews to be removed nor do I retaliate against the reviewer in any way.  My most recent review?  Not so hot.  
All I did was ask that he edit an inaccuracy.   Last I checked it still hadn't been altered, even though he said he had submitted the changes.  

So no, I do not believe I "manipulate" either before or after the fact.  If I'm sure it's real, it stands and there are no repercussions from me.  

Unless he says something hurtful, in which case I won't see him again.  Sorry, but I just don't wish to be intimate with someone who does that.  And yes, some guys who say negative things and/or give low scores still do want another bite of the apple

thotlover 363 reads
posted
10 / 17
A provider cannot manipulate your review without unless you let her

Whether to write a review and what is in it is totally up to the client. Only you can post a TER review and a client cannot be manipulated against his will. If I have a great session with a provider, I will give her the option to review my draft. They usually appreciate the gesture and take me up on it. Typically they want to delete information that might reveal their identities. A couple of providers asked me to change my estimate of their ages; others wanted to eliminate things that we did that were not listed on their profiles that they didn't want to do with every guy i.e. CIM or Greek. If I don't have a great experience, I write the review and post it without giving her the review option.

Alan_Nimm 368 reads
posted
11 / 17
You didn't say that you tell reviewers your average score

before their reviews are written. Do you?  That's all I was commenting about. I don't think that's a good idea. As you said, you don't want anyone giving you a score that doesn't reflect his honest opinion. I think telling a client "My average score is X" before he writes the review could interfere with the reviewer giving his honest opinion.  That's all.  

And you're correct of course, only VIP members can see scores.  But don't get me started on the guys who don't have VIP and then expect others to do their research for them.

Debra_Hollander See my TER Reviews 388 reads
posted
12 / 17
No, but I've considered blogging about all this.....

........and specifically mentioning that unless the score you give a lady isn't higher than her average, it isn't "helpful".    
This might seem obvious to you, but unfortunately it isn't to everyone. ;-)

These reviewers who are so pleased with themselves over writing what they believe are "helpful" reviews, then expecting the hobby-equivalent of a Scooby-Snack in return, just make me roll my eyes.  

Especially since I tell my clients that I don't want or need any new reviews.    

 :-P

GaGambler 338 reads
posted
13 / 17
What's the matter DNG, don't want to look too "slutty" by having too many reviews?

What's really ironic is that not only is it true that some guys will look at a woman with hundreds of reviews and thing to themselves "That's a lot of dick she's seen" Providers will do the exact same thing where it comes to johns. Its the reason I only have a few dozen P 411 okays. Some hookers will look at a guy with hundreds of reviews or okays and refuse to see him because his "number" is too high.

If those guy and gals ever knew what the true "number" that some of us have amassed they would be flat out flabbergasted. I would be hard pressed to round up or down to the nearest thousand. Any estimate I would give of my own number would be a wild ass guess at best, so I hardly concern myself with how many guys a hooker has slept with.

Debra_Hollander See my TER Reviews 350 reads
posted
14 / 17
Nah... sluts give it away! LOL.

And if it were my intention to appear less "active".... well, I think the ho-boat's already sailed on that one! LMAO!

No, it's just that most reviews contain at least one inaccuracy, mistake, or outright lie.  Irritating to me to have to try to get that amended.  

My most recent review claims that I gave him my location info via email, which is totally untrue.  I only confirm and divulge such information via text.  And yeah, it makes a difference.  Because there are the email-only guys who will read that, believe it, and expect me to accept that form of communication only.  

Don't get me started on the comments of "standard 2-call system" when I only freakin' text!  No phone calls for me.  But guys read that and my phone starts ringing.  

And the reviews that are so overly embellished that I'm certain it's fake?!  Oh, let's not even go there.  :smh:

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Alan_Nimm 350 reads
posted
15 / 17
that Scooby-Snack idea is the problem

That is, that a reviewer expects some kind of reward from a provider for writing a positive review.  When I write a review, it's to inform others who might want to see the provider. What I've found is that some providers don't read their reviews (bad idea to not read them, IMO).  

I'm aware that some providers offer a reward for reviews, eg a discount on the next session. If the reward has no strings attached, ie it's for ANY review, with no conditions, great. Otherwise I think it's review manipulation.  

If a provider asks me to not write a review, I honor that request unless it was a rip-off or other big problem that I think others need to know about. But so far, I haven't had to write one of those kinds of reviews.

amarie215 See my TER Reviews 402 reads
posted
16 / 17
Re: A provider cannot manipulate your review without unless you let her

I completely agree with what you've shared here. I've never asked ahead of time what score a client will give me or even if he will post a review. Most clients I have seen do not post reviews.  I have had s few send them to me ahead of time, which I appreciate for the same reasons you mentioned here. I like to be sure nothing is posted that is too personal for my comfort level and some things listed in reviews are best if not always on the menu. :)

I think providers who try to manipulate scores disqualify the accuracy of the scoring system, making it less reliable. If there is something I can improve upon as a provider, I prefer to have that opportunity than for a client to feel pressured into a high score.

iamawesomesteph See my TER Reviews 260 reads
posted
17 / 17
Re: Those are all manipulations....

I've recently had a FALSE review written and published about me. I followed guidelines and PMed the reviewer-no response. I emailed support and nothing has been done. This review is not only inaccurate-it DIDNT happen. What do I do to get it removed or edited? It's affecting my work. And I really love doing this, I've worked hard to build up the "Awesome Stephanie" name.

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