I'm a newbie, so please be patient, but do I need to ask a lady if she wants to be reviewed or not?
If I were to let her know I'm on TER, and will give her a an accurate review, will that work FOR or against me?
As I do my homework, I'm noticing a good number of ads with no sign of any reviews, and I'm wondering what is up with that?
Do some of these ladies not understand how valuable good reviews can be?
I personally would ask.
Some ladies like reveiws, some don't.
If she wishes for no reveiews, then giving her one anyway would probably work against you.
Otherwise it should make no diffrence...remember you pay for TACO...Time And Companionship Only, so why would a reveiw help or hurt you? More importantly why should it?
I'm not sure what you might mean by "work FOR you", but I do hope it has nothing to do with expecting discounts, freebies, extra activities or the like because you all of a sudden have become a "reviewer"...that is generally frowned upon behavior.
Ads with no reviews: the ladies are new, they are rip offs that have changed names, pictures, etc. the are Under the Radar, they have had their reviews pulled for any number of reasons.
Yes, that is it exactly the poor simple women folk don't know how valuable good reviews can be...
or they are new and no one has written one yet,
or they had them pulled because of fake reveiews, or because of reviews that said they engaged in activities they do not, or they don't need an electronic paper trail the moment by moment details of their appointments, or because there has been some talk of reviews being printed out and used as evidence of activity against ladies, or they have an SO or other family, friends, co-workers, whatnot that they don't need to have find pages of reviews talking about how well she loved this or that client's whatever, or she is UTR and doesn't want or need the extra "advertisement", or since it is her business she should chose how and where she is written about and this just may not be where she choses, or any number of other reasons...some good, some bad.
Ladies who do not allow reviews are not allowed to participate on TER discussion boards, because reviews are what TER is all about.
A provider who publicly states such a policy will have her reviews removed (since she doesn't want them) and be delisted.
I haven't had my coffee yet, so I hope this post isn't incoherent.
Nitescape is a newbie, so he's sticking to well known, well reviewed providers (I hope). These providers probably subscribe to TER and read their reviews. So why ask? The fact that they don't mind reviews is implicit.
Once you ask whether you can post a review, you can bet she's going to read it. And once you realize that, how can you write an objective review? Depending on the provider, _anything_ negative you post in the review may be held against you. This makes the review almost worthless. Unless ofcourse, she was so bad you'll never see her again.
My unsolicited advice: Hold off on even writing reviews until you've had some experience. Providers you'd rate a 7 suddenly become 4's as you gain experience and meet other providers. Don't ask whether you can write a review. If she's aware of the review boards and doesn't wish to be reviewed, she should say something to that effect when you meet.
I agree with Wilbury. Furthermore, I'd add this. If they ask you if you're a member of TER or it's competitors, if you write reviews, what's your handle, or more specifically if you'll write a review of them, then your best approach is honesty. "Yes, I'm a member of TER. Are you? I occasionally write reviews (or whatever the truth is). I'll tell you my username if you'll tell me yours. If you want me to, yes I suspose I can write a review of you (Do NOT promise it, and remember this is your "answer" to their direct question, not something that you're stating out of the blue)." From my experience, anytime the topic of TER or reviews has come up, I've received OUTSTANDING service. However, I think it best to let the ladies bring up the topic. Just play it cool and be as straight as you can, and it'll all work out.
Thank you for the help and feedback....
Now here is what I've been tripping over -
A lot of veterans have been talking about how important it is to only see ladies who have reviews on TER, etc........
(http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=17513&boardID=33&page=1)
Yet, if there are ladies out there who either don't like or don't want reviews, or just haven't been reviewed yet..........................???
See my point?
There are two mixed messages that I'm getting here, as a newb.
I don't know that it's actually a "mixed message". But I think I catch your drift all the same...Your little head and your eyeballs have spotted some providers that don't seem to have any reviews. What to do, what to do. Truthfully, only you can answer that for yourself. This hobby has risks. Well reviewed ladies lower (but don't eliminate) those risks. By how much? It's hard to say for sure, but I'd say it's considerable. Yet every well-reviewed provider started out with no reviews. So someone had to take a chance. I've had that "pioneer spirit" in me from time to time, and have hobbied in the past in a manner that I wouldn't at this point. I can't tell you anything more than to be carefull, and to let others know about your experiences.
Here's the thing...
You are new to this world, you admit that.
You don't know which ladies want reviews, which don't, which have had reveiews pulled, which have pages of rip off reviews under different names and phone numbers, etc.
You don't know...
So, your real question should be, "Should a newbie who has never done this before take a chance on an ad for an 18 year old he found on Craig's List?" because that really is what you want.
Now, I would tell you, "NO", but that doesn't seem to be what you want to hear.
You want someone to tell you that you can go out into the unchartered waters of CL as a newbie with no idea what you're doing and you really will get the "freaky (in a good way), 18 year old in the pictures, and she really will do "anything you want her to" and the fact that she lists no price in her ad doesn't mean at best she will try and upsell you, and at worst will try and rip you off (but of course being just a woman she won't be able to take your money)...you want to hear that it will be her at your door, you will get everything that you want and at a huge savings over a well reviewed lady.
Thats' all you really seem to want to hear, that's why you argue the answers you are given, and protest that: this, that or the other won't happen to you...but no one here is going to tell you what you want to hear...because it's not true.
Here is the most likely scenario of the CL ad...she shows up, with a guy out in the car, it is actually her, and she says you have to give her $$$ just for showing up, if you want her to undress it will be $$ more...if you want her to give you a HJ $$ more...BJ? $$$ more, and so on...and the guy in the car...he's outside the room now....and if she raises her voice or screams or gives any indication of anything he's in the room...
So, you either end up paying a lot of money for nothing, or resisit and maybe get your ass kicked, because remember, if they are ROBs, you are not the first person they have done this to. They have their moves down, because they have done it many times before.
How many times have you fought off someone in that position? I will guess you might have less experience.
Now if you insist on playing in the waters of CL then I strongly suggest you do your homework...there are places with information about women on CL...you just need to find it now. Problem is you are too much of newbie to even know what's out there to find...and yet you resist the advice given you.
Well, maybe another newbie will read the posts made in reply to your questions and learn something...
Best of luck.
Hey I appreciate your feedback and everything, so don't get this twisted, but you should go into internet-forum psychoanalysis or something....
I can't even read your response because it is so ludicrous the way that you think.
You cannot read somebody's mind over the internet, and your first few assumptions (before I stopped reading) were completely wrong.
I'm not mad at you though. I acutally appreciate you taking the time to respond, but I just thought I had to give you this feedback.
good grief man, read the last sentence of my last response, and stop trying to read somebody's mind before you have read what they have written!
Just for clarification, my last sentence I was referring to was posted on the other thread. Here it is:
"I just want to understand the big/overall picture."
eye eye eye........
After a few minutes I decided to read the rest of what you wrote just for the heck of it, and I think this needs to be said -
IF you have some information or advice to offer regarding any newbie asks?
Then it would be great of you to share what you might have to offer.
This is NOT however, or shouldn't be treated as such however, your chance to play mr counselor with a captive patient on the couch, whereas you can draw bogus assumptions to talk down to a person, whilest you also try to boost your own ego.
Not only do you totally not even have the slightest clue of what you are talking about in regards to me, your little scenarios show NOTHING in the way of you yourself being anything more than on a newbie level yourself, no matter how many times you may have done this....
Your scenario? Dude in the car waiting in the parking lot of the MGM huh? He's going to hear what's going on in the room?? lmao
Oh wait, he's going to be waiting in the hallway of the MGM, and break the door down (don't know if that's possible with those big doors) if need be?
Or how about your other scenario about upselling....
You see, I may be a newbie as far as the do's and don'ts of escort etiquette, but I am NOT a newbie when it comes to life, dealing with people, and handling myself in rip off situations...
Now if it were ME???
Me and said girl would have already had a conversation, covering EXACTLY what service is agreed upon, and EXACTLY the TOTAL amount....
If said girl wants to act like a little trick and play games??
HELLLLLLLLLLLL no I am not going to just hand over my wallet and say "gosh golly thanks miss maam" as she turns around laughing about what a sucker you are.
If it were ME, I would look her dead in her face, let her know that I'm not into her game, and from there if her or anyone else wants to look for trouble?
Well yes I guess there's two choices -
stand up for yours
OR
bend over
THAT is how I look at it, since you want to get inside my head, and try to tell a person what they are thinking.
Now since reading is fundamental, I'm going to expect you to be able to read what I have said, and NOT misinterpert it again, and come back with anymore condescending comments.
Being a newbie does not mean a person has to let you talk to them like they are stupid.
Nobody really knows how stupid you are until you open your mouth and confirm it.
Good luck in life, you're gonna need it.
WT is right on. You're on a discussion board and unfortunately YOU and your posts are the ones being discussed. Stings a little?
"After a few minutes I decided to read the rest of what you wrote"
Lol. You had a lot to say for not bothering to read her post.
"Not only do you totally not even have the slightest clue of what you are talking about in regards to me"
Maybe not but realize, she is portraying you spot on to how you are coming across to many readers. Before you think the problem is HER participation in these threads, take a look at your own.
"You see, I may be a newbie as far as the do's and don'ts of escort etiquette, but I am NOT a newbie when it comes to life, dealing with people, and handling myself in rip off situations..."
Ah... so you have lots of experience in dealing with illegal transactions? Dangerous and possibly drugged individuals? Professional ROBs? You must be a meth dealer, eh? Where the heck do you get all of that experience Mr. Newbie?
"Now if it were ME???
Me and said girl would have already had a conversation, covering EXACTLY what service is agreed upon, and EXACTLY the TOTAL amount...."
Please do this.
Now if it were YOU... I hope you are in a legal brothel in Vegas or have a good lawyer on retainer. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Why don't you take some time to READ this newbie board. There is soooo much wrong with what you just posted.
"Being a newbie does not mean a person has to let you talk to them like they are stupid."
No but being stupid gives people the opening to talk to you like you are stupid.
But again, thanks for the entertainment. Someone had to liven this board up.
It's been said that it is better to be silent, and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and confirm the notion.
Man, you ask endless questions, receive sound answers, but if you don't like the answer, you argue endlessly.
Go out and play carelessly if you like, it seems to be what you want, and is likely to be the only way you will learn.
Hey it's all good fellas...
some of you have YOUR opinions, and then I have mine.
LIKE I SAID - totally different backgrounds.
It's ok though, you can talk down to me and call me a fool or whatever you feel the need to, for whatever reason.
I'm not here to become popular on a message board, nor am I trying to find any self-identity.
So make all the condescending/arrogant comments you like, and revel in your own conceived smugness.
Those of you that call me a fool? I'm looking at you as suckers, and saying to myself that it's no wonder that so many women play the kinds of games that they do with them.
"It's been said that it is better to be silent, and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and confirm the notion.
Man, you ask endless questions, receive sound answers, but if you don't like the answer, you argue endlessly.
Go out and play carelessly if you like, it seems to be what you want, and is likely to be the only way you will learn."
Jaz, with all due respect?
I'm not here to win a popularity contest with you or whatever clicks may exist here.
I came here asking questions to try to understand how things work, so that I can make things better for myself, and for whatever providers I interact with.
Excuse me, but I think that is the whole purpose of a forum, and ESPECIALLY a "NEWBIE forum".
The purpose should NOT be for people such as yourself or others, to jump on a newbie and talk shit.
Good question because I never post one before and a lady request I post a review on her. Really don't know how to do it or say since I'm very private.
not all ladies want to be reviewed.
There a many top-class ladies who choose to operate UTR (under the radar). They do this by choice, an for their own reasons, like being married, going through a divorce, custody battle, have a real career etc.). If you are fortunate enough to hear about, and see one of these ladies, a review is not appropriate, and may work against you.