never been to one. what are the signs the girls give you if they want to provide full service or a happy ending?

You're a shoe in


Im sure the boys will know-
That just popped into my warped little brain



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Happy endings are usually included. The provider may start by touching you down there and asking if it's alright. (Yeah, I know. Tough decision

Expect limited English skills. My one experience with a full service parlor was last night. When she asked, "Do you want ...", while gyrating her hips gently back and forth, her meaning was crystal clear. It was wonderful.  I think we're going to get married soon ......

If your a first timer, most likely you'll only get a happy ending.  Usually you have to be a repeat customer for FS.

Your usually laying down on the table while the girl is giving you a massage.  When she walks in front of you, to massage your neck and upper back, this is your signal to move your hands to her ass.  If nothing is available on the menu, she will politely remove your hands, or giggle and move out of reach to one side or another.  If more is on the menu, she will stay there for a few minutes and let you caress her ass.  

When you turn over, and gives you the HJ signal, you can point to your lips signaling a BJ, or point to her groin area signaling more.  Or when she does the HJ signal, you can just ask her for "Everything".

I don't want to be the buzz kill, but gentlemen please remember that in many cases girls working in AMPs are being trafficked as involunatry sex workers.

It's your dilema of course, but there's a big difference between a professional independant provider who is in the biz voluntarily, and a woman working under intimidation, etc.

Please don't hate me, but it needs to be mentioned for new people who may not be aware of the situation.

Hugs,
TS Jamie

that and a smile.

If she makes eye contact back and gives you a smile, that usually does the trick.

and generally untrue. the incidence of sexual slavery at AMPs is many times lower than the rate of white/black girls being the pratical sex slaves of a pimp on CL.

I am not saying that it never happens, but the media coverage is so overblown it's actually downright offensive.

Please,please stop perputuating this myth, there are enough real victims in this world, we don't need to buy into the media's creation of more non-existent victims.

And Yes, I am an expert on the subject. I know and have known literally hundreds of both AMP owners and workers,none of them are or were "sex slaves" so please, just stop it. It is almost never true.

In my limited experience I have found some of the most charming ladies at the AMPs. Even though I am a newbie, I am very sensitive, maybe even more so than a slightly jaded seasoned veteran might be.  I think it is easier for a provider to fake an orgasm compared to faking the overall enjoyment of her job. I would be VERY surprised if any of the ladies I have met were not providing very willingly.

Also, I think there may be some jealousy regarding AMP girls by some of the independent providers. Some of this is understandable. Distributed costs of operating an AMP is shared by many workers bringing the prices SLIGHTLY down,(but only slightly). And for those newbies and veterans who want assurance of being UTR (under the radar), when you leave an AMP, they know only your first name, and only if you choose to give it to them.

I still feel this is a great way for a newbie to begin the hobby. Thanks, again, GaGambler for your wisdom!

I'll bow to your expertise, but having been caught in a sting, which was justified by LE on the grounds the sex slavery, I'm speaking from my personal experience, also. And, there has been at least one major sting in my area since, with LE giving the same justification. Having too much to lose, and not wishing to argue about LE's justifications for the stings after being caught once again in their net, I stay way clear of any provider or agency not highly reviewed on TER.

Again, I do not wish to get in a pissing match about this. I do not pretend to know the full reality regarding amp's. However, I'm chosing to procede on the basis of what I've experienced. The press may be exaggerating the case, along with LE. But, if LE is using it as justification for increase LE activity, that's a reality most hobbiests are interested in, and may want to consider.

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We have had some raids in the Boston area, but it was not AMPs. Most likely a Craig's List independent.

You are undoubtedly correct. A provider well reviewed on TER would be a much safer encounter than a CL girl.

That being said, when you go to a massage parlor you go for a massage, don't you. It seems like you could walk in or out, even during a raid, with little problem. You were just trying to get your tired body massaged. Nothing illegal about that. Plus there are no client records at all.

AMPs sit in one location for years. They must have made some kind of peace with LE. Some of them are quite well reviewed here in TER. I feel quite safe going to those well reviewed parlors. Just my 2 cents, but please respond if I am missing something. We newbies want to know ...

LE is just as guilty as the media in propagating this myth, and because of that AMPs are riskier to the hobbyist.

I cannot, in good conscience say that AMPs are as safe as a well reviewed provider on TER. I will state adamantly however, that the whole "sex slave" bullshit is exactly that,BULLSHIT.

I do have to agree with your point, frequenting AMPs does carry a certain amount of risk, and a pragmatic hobbyist should be aware of that risk in making his hobbying decisions.

AMP raids seem to vary with the political climate. It is not uncommon however for patrons of AMPs to be swept up along with the ladies in the raids when they do occur.

In my eagerness to stop the misinformation that is being spread about "sexual slavery" I don't want to be guilty of spreading misinformation myself. There is a certain risk associated with frequenting AMPs. The underlying reason is bullshit, but the risk does remain.

My advice if you are aver cought in a raid on a AMP is the same as any other incall. Say nothing, maintain your innocence. If they are going to arrest you there is nothing you can say to avoid arrest. You can however, by using good judgement, make it virtually impossible for them to convict you.

You must be on crack, it is so real and so obvious sex trafficking is going on in just about all these AMPS. If you don't see it you're either blind or just a typical perv who doesn't want to admit that his hobby involves taking advantage of the less fortunate. read about it and wake up. None of those girls are there because they want to be there, gimme a fucking break. Half of them are so hot htey could have any guy they want but yet they never leave the AMP, why??? Because they can't, they're being held against their will.

The AMP I frequent has a valid massage parlor license. I speak freely to the ladies during the session. How does someone hold these ladies against their wills? A simple phone call from a disgruntled lady or a quiet word to one of her regular customers and their freedom would be assured.

These girls who indeed, may be "so hot [they] could have any guy they want" are probably there to make good money in spite of their limited English skills.

However, if you would like to tell us "crack pervs" how you got this disturbing information please respond. We newbies want to know ...

GREAT summary.
Thank you very much!