It seems $1000/hour is often a standard minimum. What do you think about the NYC scene? When you read someone's reviews, and they have high rates, does it seem worth it? Has anyone really seemed to offer anything extraordinary? Have you ever been disappointed?
xo Ramona
I personally wouldn't pay that much. I can't see spending that much per hour when I see ladies now for half that (if not less than half) that are, in my opinion, pretty spectacular.
When I lived in the NYC metro area I would go to NJ, Westchester, or CT. Even with more reasonable rates, travelling into Manhattan was always a hassle for me.
I think Jersey is the destination for those who aren't high rollers. A grand is probably chump change to some Manhattanites. Not sure about the other NYC boroughs -- I would guess they are down scale as well. But no direct knowledge. (I have a provider friend in NYC/Boston. I also saw a touring girl from Jersey come to my town. So that's my direct experience, rates wise.)
Can you please share what’s this for?
I used to have $15 voluntary contribution to be screened. I am just curious is it to be considered? I used to utilize a criminal background check that cost to use & is time consuming. I no longer do this, but am interested in learning more about your booking process & seeing your overnight fun is $10k. I am sure NY rates are high because you live in a travel area with high traffic International & Domestic.
My perspective is, the prevailing rates reflect "what the market will bear". Capitalism baby.
I don't think I've ever seen a provider ask this question. I certainly would be interested in whether you think rates are too high given the cost of living in NYC.
Out here in the City of Angels, it's not unusual to find a lady with a handful of reviews asking for 800-1000. Just seems to be the way the market is right now.
As for getting value, I've been fortunate to play with a small circle of ladies in the last year who always justify the 800 an hour that I've paid. They all sparkle in duo sessions and that is worth a lot to me. Not sure whether that counts as extraordinary, but it makes me happy.
I have a three hour minimum so, at minimum, I make $3000 every meeting and I still get tips. Longshoreman who save up, tech workers, doctors, artists with trust funds, and so on. I never discuss how much I work but obviously it's working. That said, I started at the bottom in the Bay Area. As demand grew and I learned more bedroom skills, the rates went up as the demand was overwhelming. The return rate and inquiries were so high that I built my own dungeon/sex palace with ceiling mirrors. I still went to classes at Kink.com in person, one on one teaching for hardcore BDSM stuff and electro, fucking machines, etc. I'm still learning because I still want to give you what you've never had, found, or was able to satisfy....
I'll be in LA tomorrow. xx
As a former NY'er who now lives in LA, and someone who also pays attention to touring ladies, the two are not so different. Both are showing more $1k ladies than before, but both have plenty still in the $600-$700 range, and even less if you see the bargain asain agency ladies. $800 seems to be a sizable group in both areas as well. Of course, you would have to find out from the ladies how good/bad business is at their price points. And, you need to know for yourself what market you feel you are in compared to what others are charging. I always say, the provider decides her rate, and the clients choose if they are willing to pay it. As long as business is good for you, no reason to lower it.
I'm guessing people's income in NYC is also much higher.
I have a feeling that the mean (average) hourly rate is probably somewhat related to people's income in that area. Assuming people who hobby are generally okay with spending 1 day to 2 days worth of income for one hour. For a $400 per hour rate, the hobbyist would be making roughly 400 per working day. That would be 100k annual income. If it's 2 days income, then the annual income would be 50k.
Extrapolate that number to 1,000 hourly rate and 1,000 per working day income, that would be $260k annual income. I think it make sense for NYC.
I don't agree with this. I dislike NYC with a passion. But I do think the number make sense.
I'm in NYC and very active in the community. The average worker doesn't make that much more than in other cities, and the cost of living takes away any of the benefit from those higher salaries. It is a much bigger population and so there are simply more people here than other places, and so you're bound to find someone willing to spend.
The average hobbyist in NYC is not making anywhere near $260k a year. That's pretty much boarding on the starting salaries of a Corporate Vice President. The average hobbyist is probably in the 80-150k a year band and this is truly a luxury for them.
To your point about budget, their hobby spending is probably maxed out at around 300-400hr once every other month if that but it's not necessarily a 1 for 1 with their daily income.
I think your stats might be outdated in regards to salary estimates of hobbyists. The average 1st year associate in investment banking (so a college graduate with a bachelor's degree, approximate age: 22 years old) makes between $170,000-$190,000 in NYC. (Source: https://www.wallstreetprep.com/knowledge/investment-banking-analyst-salary-guide/)
1st year associates in Big Law make approximately $245,000 per year (so a law school graduate who passed the Bar, approximate age: 25/26 years old). (Source: https://www.biglawinvestor.com/biglaw-salary-scale/)
Do I think rates are too high? Definitely, they've pretty much doubled from what I used to pay for similar levels of providers/service 7-8 years ago.
Am I still paying them to get some of that good good loving? Also yes.
Rates can't stay static but some of these ladies have jumped from 800 to 1500 without stopping at 1000 or even 1200. The anti Airbnb law also sucks because all hotels are sooo expensive now and I'm sure that factors into incall pricing. My salary hasn't kept up with the inflation so my hobbying has been impacted for sure.
NYC pricing is the highest of major metropolitan cities including Paris and London ,worldwide.abroad the standard is 300 USD for the hour. Cost of operating is higher in NYC due to hotel rates but 1000 $ is pricing a provider out of the market. I have doubts that a girls schedule is packed at that rate. 600$ is what I look for.pornstars routinely ask for 1200 $ ,suspect the agency gets a hefty commission.If you book at the 1K price and there are no reviews, buyer beware.pics are sometimes from 5 yrs ago , Eros particularly has a lot of bait and switch.Tryst is my go to site currently.
If they are charging, they are getting it. I don't see anyone at that price point ever lowering their rates. I think the mistake you may be making is that many women don't need a "packed" schedule. Maybe charging more and having less dates allows them to make the same $ and go out less. Don't discount a girls ability to make $ by staying home with OF and the like. It's just a different game now.
I never lowered mine except a try at $3300/three hours, which I got but I like to keep my numbers simpler, so went back to $3000.
I haven't seen 1200 for porn star in a long time. 1500 is what I see for former a-list or current b-list. 2500 is what i see for current a-list.
I personally really liked the consistency with which some of my clients could hire me years ago at a much lower rate. But now, I mostly get 3-4 hour bookings of not longer. Because of this I raised my lower session rates and my one hour is 1000. With the cost of *everything* it just doesn't make sense to leave the house for less.
I really enjoy where I am at now. Personally I'm somewhat shocked when someone wants to book me only for an hour at 1000 (especially since 3 hours is only 1000 more on my structure) but to each their own!
It really doesn't matter to me what the lady charges for one hour as I almost never do one hours. Not all, but most ladies discount multiple hours as you do.
I hope you post more. 
I feel that considering that expenses in NYC surpass those of other states, it's very natural for prices to reflect this (not only for providers, but for any other things).
When you just starting (as me for example) I will put a modest rates. As the time goes, and I will increase network-I will adjust the price. But if a girl has expended network, I feel it is definitely worth every single cent!
Beautiful pictures! Nice to see you posting here!
There was an increase in rates ever since covid-19 started
I personally do not offer full gfe no bbbj but for a lady that does I do absolutely think her rate should be higher. Especially if she has great review and is very reputable within the industry.
I totally agree. When I started long ago I was not a GFE. I did not provide the stellar experience that I do now. Intimacy comes with the menu. No kissing, no bbbj, no daty are all basic GFE requirements. The modern day luxury is not affordable to everyone.
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NYC is one of the most expensive cities in the world,what u aspect!
Rent,transportation,food etc,every one have to live and make some $$$$$$
just come back from asia,so CHEAP!
Yes, the 1k rate is too high. For anyone charging it I'm not trying to knock on you, you're are obviously finding clients and getting what you want out of this. However I do notice that there is a ton of competition and Ladies are leaving money on the table at such high rates.
Realize that the high end rate back in 2018 was like 400-600 and that was in many cases for an actual working model. It's now 6 years later and ladies want a 67% to 150% increase in rates. The average client has not seen their salary increase anywhere near those amounts. Compounding this is that fact that clients are being stretched by the inflation we've all experienced. This is pretty much true for anyone that has been living and working in the US no matter what city they live in. It's a universal truth, a shared reality.
What I've noticed is that many of the lesser discussed clubs and spas on here are actually making a killing and taking away the lions share of the market from the indies. These places still have their ladies seeing a relatively reasonable number of clients a day and not running through 20 clients for 30 mins sessions. However they are sticking to a 300-500 range with maybe some going into the 600-800 bracket. Since about 2021 I've seen these more reasonably priced places and ladies killing the game, stashing up sums in savings that would be truly life changing for anyone. To the point where after 3-5 years they are already out of the game, some with multiple paid off properties and nice portfolios that can carry them through their still very young lives. You wont find these ladies on Eros, or Tryst or Slixa, but many forums have them prominently reviewed. Guys find these forums easily. Booking is usually done via agencies and private clubs, some times true UTR relationships develop. If the Eros, Tryst, Slixa crowd of providers dipped into these rates I think they would see a huge increase in demand that would net them more overall while still not having to see 10 people day.
Pricing is incredibly important and targeting a single segment of the market is always a risky play. Collectively the average middle class person has the bulk of the spending power in the US but there are limits as to what they can spend individually. Like any other seller/vendor it's best not to through all your eggs into one segment. Even major Luxury brands like Porsche, Bentley, Lamborghini and Ferrari start going down market in recent years with the release of their respective modest priced crossover/sport utility vehicles. Even they need to bend to the market to grow and succeed.
Him: But, So and So has cheaper rates than you.
Me: And, you are more than welcome to find out the reason why… 😉
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Hotel rooms in NYC are like $300-$500 a night. Providers aren't immune to inflation. They can't make money on one booking at $500/hour. They would need to have multiple clients, which isn't guaranteed. It makes sense that these women are pricing themselves higher, it is simply the only way they can make money and seeing one client at a high price point is better than seeing multiple mongers at a lower price point. Seeing multiple clients is mentally and physically taxing while also increasing the risk of seeing a dangerous client or catching an STI.
The truth is seeing an independent girl is a premium product. There are cheaper alternatives, like strip clubs, spas and brothels but those are revolving doors and come with their own risks/rewards.
A lot of guys who have never been in the business think they know how it works. I'm here to tell you that dropping prices to increase volume is not the great business plan guys on here think it is. Just accept that you can't afford some girls and they are not available to you. It is what it is. Yea there are some providers who are overpriced IMO, but I understand why they charge what they do. I have become way more selective as a result but we have to accept reality.
Sometimes is hard to find a good services in New York area but for my opinion is all about high quality service
... but unless there's a sudden upswing in my fortunes, I won't be engaging you. My involvement has taken a nosedive since the pandemic and i would like to get back to my old ways but I simply can't afford current rates. So unless you want to make an arrangement with me, much to my sorrow, I can only wish you godspeed and good luck.
For me, have typically splurged for certain ladies that tour NYC but the ladies that I see often are gorgeous lovers within a certain range. Some are on here some are not.
Would respectfully say that the search is almost similar to finding that special bottle of Cabernet… can’t go wrong with that Opus One and 100% you’ll enjoy it but much more special when you find that DELICIOUS bottle of Caymus to enjoy on a more frequent basis.
Nice!!! I am dying to visit the Caymus vineyards!!! maybe a summer/fall 2024.
You have to try their other brands like Bonanza and Sea Sun. Close your eyes and try it alongside Caymus 🤓 and let me know what you think!
When I visit I still charge my cheaper rates...
I usually do fine see u all soon
Hugs Hazel