Often on the TER you will see one review of a provider that is great, and one that is bad. I know that it can be YMMV as "1way" always says. I can't help but wonder when it comes to providers, and I would like your feed back on this, does not the hobbyist's attitude and overall demenor have alot to do with how you respond. i am not asking you to give away any secrets, but can you sometimes tell what kind of review your going to get? Like wise, hobbyist's be honest with your selves if you are sometimes less than perfect, do you always seem to find the girl your with does not seem to be the girl in the review?
I am just kind of curious, after reading Barrymans problem that "1way" brought up.
And like I said they other day I have to get a life......LOL
quotient!
I have often run into providers who I simply couldn't "mesh" with. Some of them were truly stunning! For me, though, it's got to be more than purely physical so I always temper my reviews with that "internal" YMMV.
Honestly, I do consider myself a "nice" guy (many pats on the back, LOL) but it is impossible to be great for everyone and vice versa.
I will give a poor review if services were poor! - Just so others won't run into the same hassle.
Let's face it, maybe the provider doesn't like the way a smell, or the way I comb my hair!
It's one of life's little mysteries...
IMHO
This is often a problem. There are some guys out there that embellish reviews, and others who are poor graders. Then there are the majority, like 1way, that pretty much tell it like it was. I was just doing some research on girls from an agency in south Florida, and there's one guy who reviewed most of them. He consistently gave them 5's and 6's, and all other reviews were 7's, 8's and 9's. This guy is just a poor grader, and BTW doesn't even follow TER guidelines for grades.
I have seen many reviews where the reviewer said as much: that he wasn't himself that day and if he were in a better mood, the girl would have gotten higher grades. This, IMHO, is grossly unfair to the girl. If he walked in in a pisant mood, why should the provider suffer?
Also, I have seen all too many reviews where the reviewer said something like: "...she was very good, terrific GFE service, but her pix were at least 10 years old and as a result I'm only giving her a 6 for performance..." or some such BS like that.
There are 2 grades for each provider: looks and performance. In my book they're mutually exclusive. She could be plain looking AND make you forget it's a service. If she rates a 9 for performance, don't degrade her to a 7 because she was plain. Give her the grade she deserves. A college teacher would not give a B to an A student because he/she might be homely. He/she would get the A, hopefully. There's no difference except for the subjectivity of what the guy expects vs. what he gets.
AND: If I'm not my usual self, and my "date" didn't go well as a result, then I just do not write a review. Anything I would write would not be accurate, and certainly would not be fair to the lady. I recently visited Las Vegas and saw one of the best reviewed and loved providers in that town. That night I wasn't feeling real well, and the session, while very nice, lacked that thing that would have made it great. Not because of her, but because I was under the weather. She was expecting a review because she knew I'm a fequent TER poster, with lots of reviews. After a couple of weeks, when she didn't see one, she called, and I told her I didn't post one becuase I didn't feel well that night (which she knew) and it would have been unfair to do so under the circumstance. I promised to see her again, and when I do I will write that review. Honestly and accurately. She couldn't thank me enough for being up front about it.
I've also seen reviews where the guy will admit that he just wasn't his usual wonderful self that day, and hangs the lower grade on himself in the review. I applaud their efforts at being honest, but when someone is doing research, and sees that lower mark, he may just as well skip over that girl, looking for someone better. That's why I read all the reviews when researching.
And, BTW, when I meet a girl for the first time, I can usually feel whether or not we're going to click and have a great session within the first 5 minutes. It's just a gut feeling and probably some mischievious and happy little twinkle in her eyes. And if she's a kisser (very important!), the way she approaches that first lip-lock. And the fact that I've done my TER homework.
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"Also, I have seen all too many reviews where the reviewer said something like: "...she was very good, terrific GFE service, but her pix were at least 10 years old and as a result I'm only giving her a 6 for performance..." or some such BS like that.
There are 2 grades for each provider: looks and performance. In my book they're mutually exclusive. She could be plain looking AND make you forget it's a service. If she rates a 9 for performance, don't degrade her to a 7 because she was plain."
While I've never done such a thing before (possibly because I haven't been shafted like that via the web, yet), I think that if the provider sets very high (and intentionally deceptive) physical expectations, that does effect the overall session performance. If I'm expecting a 9 and I get a 5, the provider has already effected the experience negatively. You get depressed, and it's the providers fault.
Once I chose a provider from an agency, no pic for this girl, but they said she was gorgeous, 19, all sorts of wonderful things. I got there and she was 30, fat, ugly and smelled like she'd been dead a week. From the get go I was disappointed and just wanted to get it over with.
Had the same thing happened using an indpendent provider's website, I would say that her intentional deception helped to spoil the experience for me. If I was miserable during our time, she wasn't going to get a high score.
I don't mind going with ugly girls. Just don't let me think I'm getting Heidi Klum, and then have Roseanne Barr show up. If I know what I'm getting, there will never be that huge let down.
Well, those are my two cents on the whole thing.
I'm relatively new to this great hobby (going on 4 months) so I don't know how much I can offer. All I know is that before my first session I spent several weeks becoming familiar with the new terms and vocabulary, reading the various discussion boards, and leaning on some of the knowlegeable posters on this board for additional information.I had recently confided with a good friend of mine, what I've been up to and he also became fascinated with this whole new world of sexual enchantment which we both never knew existed before. I just mentioned to him the other day, that my research on a potential provider session reminded me of my due dilligence done in any of life's key decisions such as home buying, purchasing stocks, cars,etc. although I might be stretching a bit.So in conclusion, I will say that so far I have not yet met a provider I have not clicked with.I know about the term YMMV but so far my mileage has not been restricted.Fortitude said it right about seeing the twinkle in the provider's eyes and so far
all the providers I've seen have been 100% starry eyed.
I'm sure its just a matter of time before I have a let down
but so far so good. Cheers!
I did not read barrymans concerns but if I knew I was getting reviewed before the booking this would mess the booking up for me. Thus far I have not ever been informed but if they did I might just steer him to another provider that needs the reviews. I am more after an intense visit... if you know what I mean.
shhhheeeeyeah....there are huge discrepancies between the personal dynamic that comes up in one man-woman connection and another. So many of my encounters have been nothing like the reviews... they may be excellent times, just no relationship between the what went on between me and her and the next guy and her. Most of my searingly hot times have been with women who are little or never reviewed and for me it is better that way as they are more naturally themselves and not living up to a collective fantasy. Its kinda useful when you think about having sex with black girls if you're a white guy. Many black girls are familiar with objectification, the typical honkey (such as myself, although maybe I'm an atypical honkey) already has some mental plastification going on around escorts, hookers, whatever you want to call them, part of or Western Madonna-Whore duality woman thing, so when he steps into the boudoir he's already stepping out of socially approved dad-provider-promotable-electable mode, temporarily gone off the grid of the unspoken social contract, defending the norms of family and country club by walking into personal porn movie by the hour, then if he's set to be with a black girl he has this entire other layer of otherness further saturating the sponge, so there you are with seven types of ambiguity, but similar things happen when you are with a girl who legitimately scores nines and tens, you end up being a tinge meta to yourself, like, who am I in relation to all the other guys, is there 9 my 7 or is their 7 my 9, or does this theatric constitute a grid of its own that it is possible to evade, as Herbert Marcuse put it, the grid of "repressive desublimation" can be disengaged to return to the moment of primary connection ?
"as Herbert Marcuse put it, the grid of "repressive desublimation" can be disengaged to return to the moment of primary connection ?"
...and I thought those words were from Professor Irwin Corey.
What was the question?....lol
Cheers!
Despite the monetary aspect, and the mass organization of gentlemen like yourselves, this business is dependent on the fulfillment of temporary personal intimacy. As with any intimate relationship a certain amount of chemistry and comfortability must be present. Reviews are a good reference tool for basic services, but not a reliable indicator of response or chemistry. I'm a passionate and outgoing person by nature, but it takes an open-minded person with a good sense of humor to fully reap the rewards I have to offer. I've had gentlemen cross my threshhold with a serious chip on their shoulder, drunk and barely able to stand up, or just plain difficult. This can put a hinderance on my ability to get into the session.....
a girl may be seeing clients when she shouldn't, she's pissed off, freaked out, or simply feels the need to be a jerk that evening and my mind-o-meter is registering 4-4-4-4, no make that a 3-3-3-3 and another time the birds are tweeting, the sun is shining, the ratio of estrogen to progestrone is perfect, and voila !, it is luv.
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my inner child gets the better of me 
In this hobby we have to be realistic. Most providers will show a better picture of themselves (don't we all do) and will fib about their age. We (men) are so stuck on Victoria Secrets catalogs and MTV types that I don't blame the providers for fibbing a little. But as we all learn, the performance is where it is all at. It is what will keep us seeing a special lady time and time again. The fantasy of her helps too.
Now I am guilty of looking at a picture first, cost second and performance last. I do this because I need to feel attracted to a provider. Keeping the cost in mind I determine whether or not I should call based solely upon the reviews. If she has none, I may make the call anyway.
This "Hobby" we all participate in costs both time and money. When I feel the need to see a provider, I want to make sure that both she and I will have a nice time. That is why I do the research (thanks F.)and call the more GFE types.
As far as bait-n-switch and rip offs, well..in my business, I've learned to listen to what is not being said and reading between the lines can be my "battle cry". A fellow Hobbyist laughs at me because I will call a provider two weeks ahead of time just to touch base. Hey, that's just me..but to date I've gotten what I expected.
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