Nobody wants to give any verification information whatsoever. Are you all LE or just expecting a provider to meet with you on no info???  Glad I'm not here for a real tour. Have never had such a situation in any other city. Disappointed...

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well, no possible appointment is worth sacrificing my safety.

...Real name. No. Company name. You must be kidding. Work phone#. See Ya.  

I saw a touring escort last week. I gave her my cell# and two references. She clearly never checked as she agreed to an appt immediately.

Hopefully you'll get some guys from there. Although I find New Yorkers very unique, I had no problems on my first trip there in late Feb of this year. I expect you'll get some guys who wait until a few days before, or even day of, I feel the ones who truly want to meet you with give you what you need to feel comfortable meeting them. Don't panic if you visit isn't until a week or so away. There are some really great guys in NY!

Steph xoxo

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Overall I never had a issue with screening people in NYC however I don't see a lot of people in NYC like I do in other cities and it could be due to my screening methods so I've been told.  

This has also led to a lot of providers upping there rates in NYC. If you think about why be low volume at 400 when you could be low volume at 1000 give of take. Not sure if this is fact but that's what I have been told from many.  

NYC seems to be a city plenty of people are still trying to adjust to when it comes to how to market here, maybe it's some truth to this screening and pop up last mins that go on here.

I hope you decide to come to this great town. No place in the world for better Pizza, Bagels and so many other great foods.  

I have no clue who reached out to you or what they would or wouldn't give up but here is my 2cents.  

The way I see this and this is only my opinion. I would rather pay you a deposit than give my information out if your a touring lady. NY is a small community but this world is even smaller. If you ask anyone love me or hate me they will know who I am. My name is Zak why do you need my last name? If you want to do a back ground check that is just two extreme for my comfort. Work info I freelance for a company in India which has no ties to the USA are you calling India on your dime? I didn't think so. I'm not a cop but I can't remember the last time someone has gone out of there way to talk to two people who have seen me. Maybe a favorite might get a text every once in a while but that's about it.

With 10 OK on P411 and 5 White List on this site all by different ladies. They can't all get it wrong. If you look at some of the people I have seen you will notice Miami Boston NY PA and CT providers have seen me. If none of this makes you feel comfortable to see me than I am not the right client for you. I don't see many people anymore I would just move on but once again that's me.  

Another observation by me if you have seen two high end independents in NY you can see anyone in NY. Not saying they all want to see me or I them but based off the right providers name you can usually walk thru any door without much issue.

I usually tell a lady to contact anyone I have seen and ask would they recommend me. Most would say Yes in a NY minute.

Enjoy your week.

Again I hope you decide to come to this great town.  

Smile  
Zak
 

I make sure i have TER Whitelist and/or P411 OK's when meeting a provider for first time.  If she doesn't have any of those and ask for employment info then no i wouldn't even ask for appt so yes i do value my personal/private info.

Of course if she ask for reference from my pervious provider i saw of course that is fine too.

current reputable references
personal information
P411, TER WhiteList & Date-Check

Sorry, safety is first

i don't ask for a lot. Can't get references, a name, membership verification, phone number, email, nothing. Emails with no name  and no other info, a phone call or text with nothing but first name, etc..

Yes,  i've had a visiting ad on there for two weeks.

I'd be ecstatic and pleased with references...couldn't get any from anyone....wth. Love the direct email from p411, datecheck...makes it a lot easier for all of us.

References from other providers are especially good and appreciated. Yea, just give me those and I'll be happy.

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You DONT screen? ANYONE?

Huh?

I learn something with the years of experience that my intuition is by far my best friend.

If someone is new or can't provide enough info to verify him I simply ask to chat over the phone.

The way someone talk, the vocabulary is using and the demeanor are better than any type of verification.
My woman instinct always tells me what to do.

I'm sorry you have no intuition baby girl.

Plus... LE don't come to you  
You come to them  

I'm only rigid about Verification on outcalls...

So far I only had incall inquiries with pure awesome gentleman.

INTUITION BABY GIRL! Can't say it better  

..be glad you aren't seeing them.

'LE don't come to you
you come to them'

This is far from true, lol. A couple of my friends have been busted doing incalls and quite rude of you to suggest this girl has no intuition. There's nothing wrong with valuing your safety it has less to do with intuition and more to do with logic and common sense.

"The way someone talk, the vocabulary is using and the demeanor are better than any type of verification.  
My woman instinct always tells me what to do."

You just made my DNS list. You put others in jeopardy with that stupid logic.

What are we having a sale on stupid posts today for gals who don't screen?

I really hope that you don't meet LE or someone dangerous. Ted Bundy was apparently very charming but yet again liked his women bludgeoned to death.

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If we are white listed on TER that should be enough one would think.

Nyc is a great hobby town. We can be last minute though. You will get the legit hobbyists with white list, references and p411. Hopefully you are not requiring more than that from experienced hobbyists. Of course newbies require addittional work. And they should expect that. You have great credentials so you should do fine, but understand July and August  in NYC can be slow at times with vacations,and weekend get aways. But there's plenty of great shopping, shows and restaurants to keep you busy.

I initially came in for a private party. Just thought I would look to see a few more clients while I was here. No biggie. I do well in Vegas and other places. Take care New York.

Is something I will do, and it gets a positive response back over 90% of the time.  Since I also screen carefully by reading recent reviews, attending M&G's, and thus know a large body of quality ladies, I've never had a negative experience in regards to providing screening info to reputable providers.

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Personally for me whether you have so many whitelisted references or OKs on P411 I reach out to the two most recent references. Sometimes the references are months ago or even a year apart from each other. There was one time a guy tried to book with me using his whitelist references, after reaching out to them one actually gave me the no-go saying she doesn't even know how he got whitelisted from her because she wouldn't recommend him at all. Also, many hits on verifyhim also came back bad. I don't believe in screening guys through work/personal information, I surely don't want you knowing my information. So, I would you suggest you stick to screen and don't just bank off of references on verification sites. Actually hear from the people that have seen him recently.

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She has insulted hobbyists on the DC & Chicago board in the past.

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Why would you not screen "formally?" You don't care about your well being?

And screening "formally" also protects your clients, who EXPECT to be formally screened.

I would advise you stop seeing people and head over to the newbie board. You clearly have LOTS to learn.

There are people her who have been in the biz 10 minutes and have more sense then you

And please, stop with this nonsense that you screen less formally. Using "tuition" is bullshit and not screening at all. If it was "obvious" you screen, we wouldn't be having this convo. It's "obvious" from your OP you DONT screen.  

Of course how you handle this is your business, provided your clients know you are placing them at risk. Some advice. Just own the fact you don't screen, no need to lie about it.

And "never had a problem" is what an 8 year old says when he doesn't wear his helmet when riding his bike. Being "lucky" and being "smart" are two very different things. I'd explain it to you but it's clear you wouldn't understand or care.

Finally, the fact you don't know that I am using my handle, and NOT my alias, is more proof to me you need to run, not walk to the newbie board.

How long have you been doing this again? LO

"Formal" screening takes, what, 5 minutes tops? I agree with JackD, you have a lot to learn. Please stop posting before you further embarrass yourselves..

Often personal information only did not provides enough insight on person"s character if it is reputable professional with somewhat public name - then risks are mitigating, yet if personal information let say construction worker or some one who is free lancing with company in India - what a help then his personal info? He is not bound by public reputation to be nice and as a rule, in 95 percent - if he not proffessional and new to hobby - there be soooo much out of rules incidents even to talk over emails - that I just do not proceed to booking - even he is ready give deposit - those people do not know where to stop and where drew a line.  

Professionals do know.
 Other hand only adult sites ok s and white lists way not sufficient either - I would not meet 69 percent from those who have dozenz white lists and hundreds reviews written.  
There many reasons for that.  
Intelligent people would know  
So combination of all and foremost - intuition- seven sense - I stay in touch with superpowers and can generally see auras of those who writes me  
Cam heal those with nice aura - just gave them more energy and happiness and relaxation  
Intuition and cross references  
Communication is must  
Human level is must
 
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It really isn't difficult, is it?  BTW, we have a big next next meeting coming up soon...

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Really?  Well aren't you the smart one! Wtf....your advice sucks ass baby girl. Op PLEASE do NOT listen to this woman.  Absolutely screen.

I just quoted you from your own post! Now I'm "attacking" you and you "have misspoke"?

Sit down. You're just embarrassing yourself.

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...is why while refs are great they should be taken with several grains of salt.

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