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AlannaMcClure See my TER Reviews 10170 reads
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I get emails from hobbyists requesting to see me (or sometimes emails with an unclear agenda) and no one seems to want to give their references.  

Can someone please tell me why providers are required to have reviews but hobbyists are not held to the same or similar standard?

I use Date Check, Preferred 411 & Room Service 2000.  This should make it easier for all.

I also subscribe to DangerZone.

If you email a provider and she either does not respond or she refuses to see you, perhaps you should give her a way to verify you.  Or, perhaps she HAS verified you and she verified that you are not someone she wants to see?

This is not rocket science.  

Safety is paramount to all of us.  Would you see a provider who had no reviews or references?

Hobbyists?  Thoughts?

Alana, you are absolutely correct. Not only would I not see a provider with reviews or references, but I would be uncomfortable if she did NOT ask me for the references she requires to feel comfortable. Safety all around is necessary and anyone not willing to provide reference might consider another hobby.

It's just as fustrating for me as a hobbyist.

I fill out the forms, list my references, and either never hear back from the ladies or hear back days later saying " I'm booked now"

I ask the ladies I use as references if the provider ever got in touch with them and I'm told "no".

It's fustrating filling out a form giving all my info to someone and never have the lady follow through.

Just a vent, sorry..............lol

Duke

I understand your concerns. For me I just send along to the provider several refs and leave it at that. You are not out of line. I agree though when gentlemen fill out the forms etc., and dont get a response that too is difficult.

Its all about respect on both ends.

You will always get many requests from guys who won't give references, because there are a number of other providers who don't require them (even tho they post that they do).  CL is a classic example of this, to use an extreme example.

To save time many providers don't even finish reading a meeting request intro if is lack key info, and post that requirement on their webpage.

I use DateCheck and TER Whitelist, and that has been great ... but be ware of DZ400 - you would be surprised how many guys have wound up on that list simply because a provider didn't like the review that was written.   Of course if several providers report the offender, than that is a different situation.

If a guy really wants to see you, he will usually give you the info you require (except employment into).

I don't mind providing employer info, it's just the actual provider references I worry about....most providers I see are from CL, but now that I am making a bit more money, due to a promotion, I am trying to elevate the type of provider I see, it's just a matter of climbing the ladder...

It's true.  Many don't seem to or don't want to understand that we need the information for our safety.  For those who don't want to screen I do suggest they join one of the verification sites.

It should be noted though that DZ strives to ensure the information is accurate and not a mere vendetta.

MHall7689349 reads

I have actually reached out to you several times with my contact and reference info and have heard nothing back....I too am baffled.

Iconic6910442 reads

Frustrated, yes...Baffled, no...

This is a great board for hobbyists to explore potential providers on an ANONYMOUS basis.  As such, they can pick a number of well reviewed providers who say they have a detailed verification process but (as previously mentioned) many will take a HUGE risk and use the standard two call system.

It doesn't seem fair, but most hobbyists feel they have more to lose if their personal information is somehow leaked or compromised (i.e. Client #9), not to mention they are paying for the companionship.

You have chosen a somewhat "risky business" especially with the stepped up LE activity and occasional kooky hobbyist.  You have some great reviews and appear to be a cut above. You are smart to play it safe.  Even if it means dealing with some frustration and a few less dates!  Just one man's opinion.

needsfun8553 reads

Alanna,
I'm new to the hobby and have found the same frustration from the other side. Although I have met a wonderful independent I feal awkward using her as a reference again and again to try to meet other providers. She's been totally awesome about this but I feel bad about using her again. I'm considering a service like preferred 411 or date check and was wondering if you as a provider had a preference of one over the other.
Thanks
Needsfun

Alanna

While us boys may want to know something about the girls we are going to visit, we aren't asking you to give your home phone number or employer information -- information that could allow us to be tracked down months or even years later!!

If I were single, I might risk it. But I'm not.

I do use date-check and it is unfortunate that so few girls use it also.

I appreciate a ladies' need to screen -- many girls find some level of assurance by checking out guys via their online personnas.

Someone like myself who has reviews here stretching over a couple of years has some level of credibility as a harmless fellow.


Bennee,
There is a VERY basic reason WHY a lady wants some personal information about a guy she has never met before and that usually within a very short period of time of actually meeting him they are going to be very intimate. You mention that you have reviews stretching over a couple of years. Your point? There was a moderator on The other BoarD a few years back that obviously had a string of rviews stretching over quite a span. I believe he is still doing time after he was finally arrested in Boston for attacking and then stealing the escort's money. He probably would have been caught sooner IF the ladies had verified him in the usual manner but since he was the moderator they didn't bother to know his identity. BTW, it was another hobbyist that recognized his photo of TV and turned him in.

You also have to realize that it is the gal that is putting herself at a lot more risk than we are with the hobby. They are ones that are "soliciting" and are receiving money. We all are well aware that the newspapers and the media in general are going to pick up an item on a police blotter about a gal arrested on prostitution charges than they are (unless you are publically well known) a guy that was with her when the arrest took place.

99.9999% of ALL the escorts that have a strong verification process are also VERY good about completely destroying ANY and ALL of a client's personal information once she has seen him and everything went smoothly. Yes, there are always the few that keep the info and among the few that do there are also the few of them that will get a hair across their ass for whatever the reason (paranoia?) and will use the guy's info in a manner that will cause him a great deal of trouble, etc.

Even when I was married I would NEVER refuse to provide my personal information to a lady I wanted to see and, in fact, if I offered to provide verificaton info and the gal told me that she didn't worry about verification then I would more than likely find a reason NOT to see her. Verification does indeed work both ways and, in my opinion, a lady that doesn't verify is similar to a ship that is sailing at full speed ahead on a foggy night with no radar and I don't want to be the one in the room with her when the door gets broken down.

This "woe" has been beaten to death on just about every board in the world and it probably will continue to do so but the same FACT keeps poking it's head up; if you aren't comfortable with the lady's requirements for an appointment then simply MOVE ON to someone else!!! :-)

Safety is the above all on my list . It is a very scarey thought that someone might forgo safety procedures in lue of privacy.I have come across quite a few guys that feel they should be able to see girls without any sort of verification. I am sure they do see girls in the end , just not me.I have had many say they aren't comfortable with the verification sites , I simply respond I am not comfortable not verifying you ,can't do it . Have an awsome weekend guys:) Kendall

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