I like to know too.
Any pointman???
Dang..., little head was doing the thinking today....
Alex is as awesome looking as her pics indicate, but the service was sorely lacking - no kissing, no daty, etc. - basically $$$ for CBJ.
Katman....thanks for TOFTT., For future reference when you see a double name on the picture..Red flags should go up BIG TIME!
Looks can be deceiving and the #1 rule...don't let your lower head do the thinking. It will get you into trouble and more than likely frustrated1
Rest up for another test drive.
So if I understand you correctly, you ONLY received a CBJ and I'm assuming some CFS from an awsome looking girl. This is not a personal attack on katman4u, but it is exactly what I was referring to in my post below. Why does this have to be a TOFTT situation? The same money/services would have gotten you 10 minutes with an awesome looking girl at the ranch. The things that are expected of providers today would not even have been tolerated 10 years ago. Today it seems as though the rules are being set by the buyers/hobbyists as opposed to the sellers/providers which in my opinion is a bad situation that puts the entire community at risk. This is just my opinion on the current state of things. I have attached a link to a post that I felt poses a very good question. Be safe (wrap it up) and have fun!
-- Modified on 10/6/2005 1:28:46 PM
Thanks for the reply, but the point of my post was not the issue of price. I only mentioned the $300 because in my opinion it was very fair for services received. My real point was about service expectations and I feel it is extremely unfair to call it a TOFTT when a provider chooses to only offer items like CBJ and CFS. There was a time when safety was an unwritten rule that providers followed and hobbyists expected. Today, with the way TER places a higher value on exactly the same things that were avoided in the past, it is my OPINION that hobbyists have too much control. It never used to be this one full hour type of a setup either. The provider spent enough time with the client to provide some company until the "finish" and was on her way. The providers I know typically don't enjoy the one or two hour viagra driven jack-hammer sessions which now seem to be too common. It's not natural and I guess personally I see it more as an abusive power thing than as being fun. Again, I'm not trying to pass judgement on anyone - just offering my point of view.
Ranchboy....or chould I say Ranchgirl. I am NOT going down the path of a price issue but based upon current service menus and average prices...$$$ for a CBJ is NO WAY "was very fair for services received"
It is NOT TER that places a higher value on the service menu but the Hobbyist(paying customer) that places a value for the time and service received. Does he find a higher value for a lady that provides more or better service at the same rate as another lady...Of course!
"it is my OPINION that hobbyists have too much control." I would like to know why you feel this way. The ladies have just as much or more control as we(hobbyists) do. They can decide if they wasnt to see us or not, they set the price, they set the service menu. We(hobbyist) in turn bring the funds and recieve her services and we decide who we would potentially like to see. Just because I wish to see lady X, there is NO guarantee that it will happen. Maybe I'm missing something but I see that the "control: part is more on the ladies.
In your last staement "The providers I know typically don't enjoy the one or two hour viagra driven jack-hammer sessions which now seem to be too common. It's not natural and I guess personally I see it more as an abusive power thing than as being fun." I do not know of too many guys that take the blue rocket and "jack-hammer" the ladies for 1-2 hours. I would beleive if you took a poll and asked who used the blue pill, you would find it is those gentlemen that what they medically call "erectal disfunctions" and the only way these guys can perform is will a little asistance. Would this be any different than a lady using a lubricant because she is not wet enouogh to make it better for her and minimize her soreness?
just a few thoughts form the other side of the fence.
NOT a ranchgirl, just a hobbyist who feels the hobby has gotten unnecessarily risky. As I now know that it was only CBJ, then the price is high for the local market. Further, I understand erectile dysfunction and the need for the blue pill. I was in no way implying that there was rampant abuse of the pill. I was referring to the one and two hour marathon multi-cup sessions that hobbyists boast about and I admit "viagra driven jack hammer" was an unnecessary comment to make. When referring to hobbyists having control, I meant the pressures that are placed on providers to meet hobbyist's expectations. It is those expectations that IMHO have taken a downward turn. Yes, the girls set the menu, but if the majority of the hobbyists EXPECT unsafe acts like BBBJ, etc..., then setting the menu becomes more difficult for the providers. Just my opinion. Now wrap it up and have fun!
-- Modified on 10/5/2005 8:42:08 AM
I think your Ford Vs. Chevy analogy is probably correct. My intent is not to stir up controversy, rather it is just to state my opinion. For me what's great about discussion boards is that there are numerous opinions being stated that provide me with a different perspective and sometimes cause me to look at a situation differently. I hope that people are able to catch the basic meaning behind my posts and not get too caught up in the semantics of what is written. Further, I sincerely hope that I have not offended anyone, provider or hobbyist, with any of my comments. Now go forth and have some good SAFE fun! Wrap it up!
No CFS, just $$$ for CBJ 