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Re: Not all agencies are the same nor are they necessarily bad for the ladies. It bothers me...
SarahSmiles 978 reads
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I appreciate your honest answer and info I'm glad there are good agencies out there... I never meant to promote anything... Just to say that in my own experiences that's what I come across...  

But again this is exactly the info I was looking for and I thank you for informing it to me.  
Posted By: Drumsticks
...that you're helping to perpetuate the myth that agencies and particularly agencies that employ Asian providers are sex trafficking them. You didn't say that but you implied it. I doubt the ladies who work for the local ones are being forced to do so. Likely, they did the same type of work in their home country and took advantage of an opportunity to come to the U.S. to find gainful, honest work. It makes sense that they would work with an agency that's likely Asian run and can work with other ladies who they share more in common with Asian cultures than with Western cultures.  
 Of course there are bad agencies who treat their ladies poorly, expect too much from them and don't pay them fairly. Boo on them. I wouldn't use them if I knew that was the case. There are many good agencies across the country who treat the ladies well, pay fairly and let them set their own schedules. The agencies, in turn, provide the promotion, the screening and the scheduling services for them. Those are the type of agencies I use and I love working with them. I just had a very enjoyable session with an agency lady this morning as a matter of fact but I'm in a city outside of Minnesota that has some very good agencies.  
 So, please temper your comments and open your mind about agencies. TER community members should take every opportunity to reinforce the concept that responsible pay for play is what every advanced society should strive for and embrace.

Cropduster11836 reads

Heard there was a new agency similar to Bloomington Asians, saw a number of new ad without
any names. Should we call them New Asians? Anyone have any comments, price point is
similar to BA. Your thoughts?

If I had ever felt there was a pimp involved this would be that time.
 Review to be written.

They are Vivi and Cece.  Not sure if they are agency or not.  They sound like the person on the phone in person.  Actually $10 cheaper than the BA.  Don't you just love competition?

I'd use them again in a pinch, but, I wouldn't compare them to the BA.  

They double book, total quantity operation.  I'd be extremely surprised if you got anything close to the hour.  I went for the half hour the first time, wasn't extremely impressed.  She'd do multis with an extra add on, that was about it.

In a pinch, if I want to be balls deep within 15 minutes.

SarahSmiles879 reads

Why guys always use agencies or massage parlors for Asian providers? Not that I am Asian myself doesn't effect me but just always curious...there are independent Asian providers,  maybe not as many in MN... But I do know there's some and there are many in other states I've been around to.  

So is it just Asian providers you prefer to see from agencies? And why?

spendingtime774 reads

You hit it exactly, not many asian providers in the area.  So when I'm in the mood for visiting an asian lady, they fit the bill.  I don't do AMPs, but have used BA a few times.

YMMV with BA, as they may or may not be the girl in the pic.  But... they're generally 8+ in the looks department and same for performance.  Price is right for what you get and what I've gotten is a consistently good time without a lot of hassle or drama

SarahSmiles797 reads

Hmm... I suppose that makes sense,  but I do know there are quite a few indie Asian girls in the cities... Although they are charging more then the 170... I think they provide more gfe  than an agency... Plus in my opinion I've always thought of agencies as pimps in disguise really... Shipping girls from Asia over to here and etc.  Plus you give the money right to the madam or whatever.  If I was a guy in this hobby I sure would want to pay an indie girl who at least seems like she is pocketing the money and is also enjoying what she does and choosing to do it and can speak fluently to me.... Just my opinions but I'm not from around here so maybe the Asian agencies here are different than the West coast.

Posted By: SarahSmiles
Hmm... I suppose that makes sense,  but I do know there are quite a few indie Asian girls in the cities... Although they are charging more then the 170... I think they provide more gfe  than an agency... Plus in my opinion I've always thought of agencies as pimps in disguise really... Shipping girls from Asia over to here and etc.  Plus you give the money right to the madam or whatever.  If I was a guy in this hobby I sure would want to pay an indie girl who at least seems like she is pocketing the money and is also enjoying what she does and choosing to do it and can speak fluently to me.... Just my opinions but I'm not from around here so maybe the Asian agencies here are different than the West coast.  
No these women are not crammed in some Tuna boat or Cargo Carrier and shipped over here for our slaved pleasure.  At least not the Bloomington Asians spoken about.  There is no madam you pay and many might think they are indie as they advertise as themselves and will be the only one you see in the room. The initial fee of 170 will get your their base service, but like most things you gotta pay more if you want more, MSOG, greek, BBBJ.  

As a hobbyist nothing in this town compares to that agency.  The worst experience I've ever had was still okay.  I know with confidence I can see a girl who's never been in this town, no reviews and I'm gonna have a good time.

SarahSmiles955 reads

Well to be honest there are lots more questions i have,  not innocent either,  not that I ever said they were. I'm just trying to get a feel for MN.  As I said I'm not from around here I just moved here. I'm not going to lie and say I don't have opinions on agencies because I do and I'm not ashamed to voice them... If I'm wrong I'm wrong oh well that's what asking questions Is for.  

It seems like you offend people on the regular and don't give a damn so I'm sure you see where I'm coming from.

And have been asked before about the Bloomington Asians as the sort of thing does happen.  You and others who have seen them often know that is not the case with the BAs but it's not obvious to others unless they bring it up.

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Posted By: SarahSmiles
Well to be honest there are lots more questions i have,  not innocent either,  not that I ever said they were. I'm just trying to get a feel for MN.  As I said I'm not from around here I just moved here. I'm not going to lie and say I don't have opinions on agencies because I do and I'm not ashamed to voice them
Start out with some disparaging comments.. Pimp, non-gfe, etc.. As well as a sideways shill for her "indy" Asian gfe provider and you don't just merely have an innocent post..  

This one is for Sarah.. If a lady can come into town and put one lowkey ad on BP and be booked for her entire stay, obviously they're doing something right.  On the other hand when you have to hawk your wares by posting every 2-3 hours in every forum and ad site imaginable, maybe people just aren't buying what you're selling.

SarahSmiles878 reads

And if I wanted to shill... Would have just told you all to check out my friend who is independent and Asian... Straight forwardl

Posted By: SarahSmiles
And if I wanted to shill... Would have just told you all to check out my friend who is independent and Asian... Straight forwardly  
   
 
Accusations of trafficking, or excuse me "pimping", or being shipped around from Asia.  All while under the disguise of an alias.  Oh yeah, you are one straight forward kind of "gal"..

SarahSmiles727 reads

I never heard of BA  before since I'm not from here... I'll say again that I have known other agencies that do really do the things I was talking abt... The reasons I ask questions here is because I didn't know.  I wasn't accusing them of doing it I was asking abt the agencies here in general.  I'm curious because I once worked for an agency (obviously not here and not an Asian one)  and my. Experience was bad and also my business was bad... Men told me they'd rather see me as a independent.  So I just always wonder why men would rather see agency Asian girls but independent Caucasian/African American girls....  

And yes I don't care if I offend anyone.... How you feel abt what I say is on you.  I never mean to make any feel anyway.  But if you do.... I don't care,  I'm just looking for honest information  and being honest is the best way to go about that in my experience. I'm not going to sugar coat anything to mind people's feelings.

Just as plausible, if not more so, is that her experiences are exactly what she says they are.  And there is nothing unusual about someone who is new to the area trying to get the word out.  It's called marketing.

Posted By: SarahSmiles
Although they are charging more then the 170.. I think they provide more gfe  than an agency
This would be an assertion and a false premise.
Posted By: SarahSmiles
... Plus in my opinion I've always thought of agencies as pimps in disguise really... Shipping girls from Asia over to here and etc.

Another assertion using a false premise

Posted By: SarahSmiles
Plus you give the money right to the madam or whatever.
Now I've seen some AAMPs that are almost exactly like an AMP where theres a mamasan, but, I don't know what part of the country she's speaking of.  Most of the time it's going to be a one on one encounter with the provider.

Posted By: SarahSmiles

 If I was a guy in this hobby I sure would want to pay an indie girl who at least seems like she is pocketing the money and is also enjoying what she does and choosing to do it and can speak fluently to me.... Just my opinions but I'm not from around here so maybe the Asian agencies here are different than the West coast.  
Once again.. not sure what part of the country she's got all this experience with AMPs and AAMPs, but, I've hobbied in plenty places where it's nearly identical.  Well other then the price.  Most of these very same Thai girls when they cycle to LA will be able to get 250-300 an hour.

And the fact that she came out and claimed she was putting out her opinions, didn't care what people thought of them and had no intention of innocence, doesn't show me jumping to conclusions but, your willingingness to overlook the obvious.

Posted By: SarahSmiles
Just my opinions but I'm not from around here so maybe the Asian agencies here are different than the West coast.  
Note the part where she acknowledges the possibility that things are different here than where she is from.  What we have here is your unwillingness to consider other possibilities.  Sure, it's possible she was engaging in an attempt to criticize a group she sees as competition but of that strikes me as a fairly useless tactic.  There's also the question of why anyone would base their decision on whether or not to see one of the BA's based on a comment made by a person who is admittedly new to the area.  In my experience people's mistakes are usually made out of ignorance or carelessness, not malice.

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...that you're helping to perpetuate the myth that agencies and particularly agencies that employ Asian providers are sex trafficking them. You didn't say that but you implied it. I doubt the ladies who work for the local ones are being forced to do so. Likely, they did the same type of work in their home country and took advantage of an opportunity to come to the U.S. to find gainful, honest work. It makes sense that they would work with an agency that's likely Asian run and can work with other ladies who they share more in common with Asian cultures than with Western cultures.  
Of course there are bad agencies who treat their ladies poorly, expect too much from them and don't pay them fairly. Boo on them. I wouldn't use them if I knew that was the case. There are many good agencies across the country who treat the ladies well, pay fairly and let them set their own schedules. The agencies, in turn, provide the promotion, the screening and the scheduling services for them. Those are the type of agencies I use and I love working with them. I just had a very enjoyable session with an agency lady this morning as a matter of fact but I'm in a city outside of Minnesota that has some very good agencies.  
So, please temper your comments and open your mind about agencies. TER community members should take every opportunity to reinforce the concept that responsible pay for play is what every advanced society should strive for and embrace.

SarahSmiles979 reads

I appreciate your honest answer and info I'm glad there are good agencies out there... I never meant to promote anything... Just to say that in my own experiences that's what I come across...  

But again this is exactly the info I was looking for and I thank you for informing it to me.  

Posted By: Drumsticks
...that you're helping to perpetuate the myth that agencies and particularly agencies that employ Asian providers are sex trafficking them. You didn't say that but you implied it. I doubt the ladies who work for the local ones are being forced to do so. Likely, they did the same type of work in their home country and took advantage of an opportunity to come to the U.S. to find gainful, honest work. It makes sense that they would work with an agency that's likely Asian run and can work with other ladies who they share more in common with Asian cultures than with Western cultures.  
 Of course there are bad agencies who treat their ladies poorly, expect too much from them and don't pay them fairly. Boo on them. I wouldn't use them if I knew that was the case. There are many good agencies across the country who treat the ladies well, pay fairly and let them set their own schedules. The agencies, in turn, provide the promotion, the screening and the scheduling services for them. Those are the type of agencies I use and I love working with them. I just had a very enjoyable session with an agency lady this morning as a matter of fact but I'm in a city outside of Minnesota that has some very good agencies.  
 So, please temper your comments and open your mind about agencies. TER community members should take every opportunity to reinforce the concept that responsible pay for play is what every advanced society should strive for and embrace.

That's just the way they roll..  

Rotating talent at $170 a visit?  Please tell me a comparable indy.  

They are above other agencies that come in with price and performance.  Real (doctored), but real pics.. Not gonna be some granny rolling with the 20 year old pics like other Asian agencies that have come to town.  

They specifically are safe and reliable with plenty of variety.

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