I have always tried to help the common monger stay safe and save money in TJ. I know this post will bring out the flamers but it is intended to help the average monger who is not rich and wants to save a few bucks. The more money you save, can pay for future TJ visits and chicas. I am constantly being accused of thinking that I know more than anyone about TJ but there are a lot of knowlegeable TJ guys and we all do TJ our own way. This is just my way and it works very well. I think I have some knowledge with 10 years of going to TJ and presently going 3-4 times a week.
In most bars, especially the small bars (anything outside of AB and CC), this works 90% of the time. It can also easily work in AB and CC as well. Many guys, totally hate to negotiate for fear of a worse session, just hate to do it or for others reasons. There is no reason not to negotiate with a chica in a bar if you can save some money for the same quality session.
This is the key. Whatever, the chica offers, come back $10 less. (on $50 or $60 quotes) Most chicas automaticaly quote $10 higher to start with. They know some guys will pay their initial asking price, so why not come in higher? If some chica quotes $70 or more come down $20 or more. This technique is for chicas that say $50 or $60, which is most of the chicas. Most chicas quickly accept and this whole negotaition takes less than 30 seconds. Approach the chica, smile, and maybe even make some small talk first. Even dancing first for $1 can help get you a great seesion price.
This technique doesn't really apply to street girls. With SG's you need to negotiate everything before you get to the room or many will try to charge you for every extra like getting naked, multiple postions, BJ's and the like.
The session quality really doesn't vary at all. Some guys say what's the big deal about $10? Well if you go to TJ a lot, it does add up. Especially, for the average income monger. Just figure by saving money, you will have more future monger dollars. Another way to look a it, is that you are getting a free room for the session since you still have to pay $11-$12 for the room.
If you rarely go to TJ and don't like to negotiate then I say don't. Just go after the type of chicas you like and pay what they ask. Have a good time. It's more of a vacation for the infrequent TJ visitor. You will still spend a lot less than in the US, paying a TJ chica's asking price.
But if you go to TJ weekly or more and save $20-$30 on chicas each week that's saving $1,000-$1,500 a year. In other words, 20-30 extra chicas you can do a year for free. There are also some guys that do 3-5 chicas a day, every time they go. The same numbers still apply and you can do a lot more chicas during the year saving some money.
I know some of the flamers and big spenders will say I'm taking money from the mouths of the chicas, their kids and their families but that's the way it is. These sites were designed to help the monger out. Many of us aren't wealthy. Many of us may be married (as per the TER survey) and have our own families to support. Negotiation is a norm in Mexico and less common in the US. Rarely has session quality differed for me once a negotiation was accepted.
Juan
your "negotiation technique" comes more from you being a cheapskate then a savvy monger! You have always condemned & critiqued others for the way they do things because you have been just plain jealous! Your mantra that "you only go to the smaller clubs" is because you can get your "bargains" from the less experienced chicas. Most AB & CC chicas wouldn't even talk to you let alone let you "negotiate" with them.
You will never acknowledge or admit this but I know for a fact that you get VERY FEW repeats unless the chica is desperate for the cash!
Please stop repeating that you are just posting for the aid of the "group". You are solicating others for your "tour" service which is a joke.
Like Westfargo, the only thing scarier then you is your small group of (seemingly) fans on this and your board. Given time, you will piss them off too!
Caribe, SP or whoever you are posting as now. I never get repeats and all the chicas hate me. Lol OK. Since you said so.
Why not actually post your own TJ experiences with your real Internet username or even this one. Do you have anything to actually contribute about TJ or any chicas? Or do all you do is just flame away and make stuff up even though the message at the top of this TER board clearly says, "This is a moderated forum in which flames and messages outside the forum topic will be deleted. Please do not post messages that are simply mean, or meant to cause trouble for trouble's sake." Well you are here to cause trouble but that's OK to. It does foster conversation and comic relief to everyone at my expense, even if your stuff is fabricated dribble.
Juan
Juan I have to agree with you on this one. Caribe if you have nothing constuctive to add to the board,than don't add anything.We don't need more flaming or trying to prove who's the king of T.J. - just simple straight forward,honest info.Enough said.
Thanks
Muchas gracias.
And if you want to know basic technique to save, consider using a guide the first time you go there.
It will pay for itself!
Neither Caribe nor Juanstijuana have any reviews posted against their handles which weakens their credibility IMHO, but I agree with Caribe's commnents regarding Lakers and his subtle purpose here.
Here is an example of how to read between the lines.
If one looks at the other discussion boards on TER, the threads typically identify the providers by name (thereby making the information useful to others).
I am ASPUSER, VIP member, 31 reviews (US & TJ), not an alias.
Nevertheless, Juanstijuana post above makes sense and Caribe's is simply an attack.
It is only because the bar chicas are not here to defend themselves that a post like his is allowed here.
Try posting it on the San Diego discussion board and let's see how long it lasts.
If you are going to Las Chavelas, then I will not give you advice on how to negotiate with chicas there.
But if you are going to Adelitas and want to take a hottie upstairs, then don't listen to someone who admits not having lots of successful experiences with chicas there.
If it is your first time, then pick the girl of your dreams and ask to have a drink with her. If there is chemistry downstairs over drinks, then you will find it upstairs as well.
Make sure she understands exactly what you want, THEN she will tell you how much this is going to cost you.
If you try to reduce her quoted price, watch how fast she downs her drink, and goes upstairs with a "cheapskate". You will have that extra ten dollars in your pocket, you will never know how much better it could have been.
The ugly venom of aspuser pops in again. Aspuser, if you want to dispute anything I say, get your facts straight. Once again you will edit your post after this one to reflect your point. I spend $300-$400 a week in TJ which is far from being a cheapskate as you say. I'll negotiate to keep it from being $500 a week.
When I first went to TJ 10 years ago all I did was Chicago Club and Adelita women. I used the same negotiation tactics and had excellent sessions with many GF sessions. I have come to learn that a GF CC or AB session is different from a small bar GF session. I have come to find over time that AB and CC chicas are more robotic and that small bar chica sessions are true GF. The small chica bar game is tougher because Spanish helps, there is more socialization and not every chicas goes up. But a GF small bar session is wonderful.
Tijuana is also different than any other TER area. How many TJ escorts are there (maybe 10 or so) and how many bar and street girls are there? Negotiation is very common in the bars (even AB and CC) and speaking Spanish is a big plus. Many chicas in AB and CC come in $10 higher as it is and easily come down.
For example Maria Magdalena in AB asked a friend of mine for $60 but took $50 after about a 10 second negotiation. He asked how much. She said $60. He said, I can pay you $50. She said yes and away they went and he had the same excellent sessions others get. Boy that negotiation was hard.
I have never met you nor do I want to but I casn only imagine what you look like. I do believe though you are 60+ and how you post you are stuck in your ways. Your facts are always wrong and your mantra about TJ escorts is getting stale. At your age it may be that escorts and Adelita women respond better to you. Small bar chicas will not because they are less proish and will actually turn down guys that are older, heavier or who they don't like for their own reasons. I am around 50 and am not looking forward to being older because the play I get wil change. A CC, AB or escort chica will do just about anyone.
Tijuana has a lot more bar and SG chicas and escorts are only a very small part of the TJ sex scene unlike other TER areas. This may change in the future but he bar scene in TJ is huge and you have very little game there as it appears you don't negitiate or are afraid to. Negotiation is a part of life in TJ and Mexico just like other others of the world.
Juan