Who the hell are these agencies and independent girls asking for ID before the meet?  For all we know, they could be LE.  Worse, they could be identity thieves or blackmailers.  Don't they know how much business they are losing?  Really, if we don't ask for their Id's, why should they ask for our's?

business works.  If you're not LE, then you sound like a newbie that hasn't done this before.  If you don't want to cooperate with the screening, then you should stick to streetwalkers.  You drive up, see what you get, and they will make you happy until your dick start itching in the morning.  Still doesn't prevent some of the negatives you list, but no ID required.  You can say you're Bill Clinton if you want.  They don't care.  

A professional escort, whether indie or agency, is not going to put up a sophisticated website presentation and then rip you off for a few hundred dollars.  If you stick to well-reviewed girls on TER, all of your worries will disappear.  

I was ripped off by a agency before and they had a reputable website .So what your saying is not true .

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Cannot disagree with you there.  Just saying, it is pretty dumb to ask someone for ID when anonymity is of the utmost importance.  If you had the only pussy in the world, you could even make more rules but as it is, guys like me would move on to someone who is less of a hassle.  And, we do.  Wink.

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you have are only good with other indies.  The Asian market is completely different, and your hobby history does you no good until you have some Asian booker refs..  If you're not going to give your ID, you will probably have to stick to indies.  

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i agree with the thought that any girl who insists for ID is not worth meeting ..  lets think it through .. whats the benefit to have your ID ..does she do immediate background check online in front of you ?  if not whats the point ..so she can bother you later for another appointment?    

bottom line .. since most girls do not insist on it and sadly in today's society being anonymous is crucial, you can easily get 3 or 4 TER white lists and a P411 account.  

i have had the pleasure of meeting elite girls who on their site insist on ID but once they checked my white list and P411 account  w/ 8 OKAYs.   there was no problem and happy to meet and not asked for.    After all isnt that what TER and P411 are for?  to insure both the gentleman and the lady are appropriate to meet.

and most everyone is flexible...

When the rules on both sides do not line up just move on.

As far as selling her pussy goes - well she's actually just renting it and you're paying good money so that equation is equal...

I just move on when someone asks for ID. Except for once and I'm glad I was flexible )

I can't easily remember a time I have been asked for ID, even with Kgirls.  Oh, I think there might have been one time back in the 1990s where the lady just took a quick look and I put my finger over my address.  She was good with it being from CA, I was on the east coast.  As long as they are not trying to make or get a copy of information I might not have an issue.  

But it really doesn't come up much so I don't see the big deal.  If you don't want to show it, then pick someone else.  Typically if I come across someone who insist on me filling out a form or giving other information I just move on.  It's not worth the bother once you have P411, White Lists refs, RS2000, etc.    

I agree with Marscars.  You sound like a pain in the ass....maybe that is a bit tough though..lol
think about this..

The chances or a reviewed and verified provider or agency being L.E are next to 0%.  Unless maybe they were caught by L.E and as part of the plea they allowed L.E to use their account (highly unlikely and I think unethical legally)  So I think there goes that theory.

If they were identity thieves or blackmailer don't you think already credible and established reviewers would have outed them or reported them on here or on a blog by now?

There is a way higher...way way higher chance of a client causing a Provider harm , discomfort or money problems than a fully reviewed and verified provider damaging a clients situation, money or safety.

You will see by my reviews how everyone comments on how tough I am to get screened with.  That is because my safety, security, privacy and reputation come before any amount of money.  The funny thing is the easier it is the screen someone the easier, more comfortable and fun the appointment goes.

Some guys just get it and handle everything correctly from the very beginning.

I understand wanting to be discreet, and my screening allows for such situations however a good provider will always give you other options if understanding of the situation.  Normally those options will have other cross check methods to make allowances for no ID provided. that being the case you must be patient and understanding for their own reasons why they are doing it.

I just spent 15 minutes replying to texts from a guy who I asked 4x the same question

What is his name, where he saw my ad, when did he want to see me and for how long. In 15 Min of texts he avoided those questions 4x and then gets upset why I won't see him.

Maybe before judging a providers screening method, you might want to show understanding and empathy for the situation.  The Provider wants to see you, wants the business and if a good fit would love to keep a long time regular but before any of that happens, safety first.  

Trying to understand your side but wondering if you understand the providers side

Kim

Then you should have done your due diligence and posted it every place possible.

Understand that every situation is handled on a case by case basis.

Any guy with the proper approach, correct etiquette, a respectful communicative nature, can always work out a way with the provider to make it work.  Any guy with the attitude saying he will just go to the next provider....well maybe you won't hear any complaints on the other end.

Unfortuantely some of you men think just because money gives you a speed pass to Pussyville, then you don't have to be sure to handle all the safety checks along the way to ensure a happy and fun stay during your visit to pussyville

Always remember just because there is a sign that says welcome to Pussyville, doesn't mean that the Mayor of pussyville gives you the key to the city just cause you bribed the mayor to get in.

Its like an internet unicorn.

and with this practice does in fact put you at a greater risk of larger things to happen. If you want me to spell it out for you I can, but that would be long winded, and frankly I don't think you have the comprehension for it.

hint hint...lol ...xo

get upset over it? If everyone is asking for it then it's just the way it is.

be required. Since I am not willing to do that, I either move on or I would let them know that when I make my appointment request. Sometimes, they will waive the requirement (because of ref or P411 okays) or I don't get a reply. Like you said I don't see the big deal either.

if you feel everyone is an a**hole then maybe you are the a**hole haha

We ask for one simple reason. Our safety!! Any well known, reputable provider screens for their safety. Most providers don't answer in a reasonable time frame for a reference. A lot of hobbyists book last minute so to cut screening time in half we opt for other ways of screening. This could be for your ID or employment information. I'm not sure why guys have such a huge problem with screening. It's really disheartening when hobbyists blow up at providers for trying to protect themselves. If you think about it, the hobbyists have WAY more of an advantage than the providers. Hobbyists can simply Google a provider and find out everything they need to know. We are being contacted by complete strangers. TER is a database of almost every provider out there so when a client had an issue with screening, it's blows my mind

I keep seeing guys saying if a client has a p411, TER, etc. Most of the men contacting us don't even have these so that's why we have different options for screening them which may or may not include your ID

HRC

No real info in emails or website forms.  If they ask for ID, I offer to show it in person at the time of the meeting, but not before, and never ever email a copy of ID.  NEVER!  Emails are forever...  

For the most part, even when I offer to show my ID, it has only happened once that the lady asked to see it.

I did post it