I'm new to the independent provider arena, though I have lots of experience in the legal brothels outside Vegas.
Can anyone shed some light on the screening procedures? I understand it's need, but I'm still not wild about providing my place of work, name and phone number.
Also, how risky is it legally to be a hobbyist? How likely would I be to get busted, how serious would the charge be, what would actually happen to me if arrested (in Vegas)? I'm from out of town.
Is it reasonable to stick to experienced, well-reviewed providers in TER, or is there still a risk of arrest and how big a risk?
Any and all suggestions on protection (the legal kind) would be greatly appreciated!
Well the best advise is & always will be go upon your instint if it does'nt feel right thats all u have to know to say noooooo!!!!!!!!!
and the worse I've gotten is a parking ticket.
In the early years, you bought a copy of the "underground" weekly paper in town and checked out the personals. If ever there were a risky venture, that was it. Back in the 70's before anyone knew about AIDS, condom use was not that common, but the only time I ever caught an STD was will civie dating.
Now-a-days, with TER, you can be pretty well assured that you will have negligable legal issues (putting aside divorce for now) if you stick to a well reviewed provider in there.
As for protection, the most important kind is still the kind you put on your Johnson to avoid nasty diseases.
Probably the most risky type of practice, with regard to the law, is to solicit on the street. That is the most common kind of bust.
Busts of massage parlors, especially if they may have illegal aliens (AMPS) have been known to happen also. Then there's Craig's List which the law has been targeting of late, both in terms of having cops call escorts and busting them, as well as female cops posing as escorts and busting clients.
Watch the regional boards on TER. They often have announcements of police activity like this.
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I think the key is think with your big head not your little one. Risk- well there is always a risk- you can get killed walking out your door today. Once you get a few providers in your book- then it will be much easier to be screened and verified. If I were you I would not touch anyone that was not reviewed. Also check who reviews them. You might get one review on a new girl- but the reviewer is new too. Could this be a red flag? Yep in my book it is.
I always felt outcall was a little less risky. I cop coming to your hotel room is pretty risky. Not to say it has not happened- but I think and incall has a much greater risk of being a sting with a new unknown provider- IMOHO
photo id
proof of employment: badge, pay stub, calling your receptionist, etc.
respectable provider references
TER membership, TER providers are the best and often meet hobbyists right on this board.
And some don't need any verification at all and may just ask to see some skin or drink some alcohol.
Female LE probably won't show you any skin, but will also probably bust you as soon as you show up with your envelope.
Stay the hell away from streetwalkers.
There's really no absolute guarantee against LE because they can fake all kinds of stuff and can lie when you ask if she's LE.
The latest word is that Vegas is going soft on the hobby because they realize how much they need it to attract conventions. A Vegas provider who had worked in a brothel in Pahrump told me that indie girls are much happier and therefore better at providing than the girls at the legal brothels.
What are the chances that I would get into trouble for having been a regular reviewer at TER? I mean I am also a member so my name, address, etc are somewhere there in TER's database...
Extremely slim; while your credit card number is on file, and your email address and the IP address you logged in from, there's not a lot else to pin you to that identity. This is one place where the number of fake reviews can act in your favor -- you can make a believable claim that "I was just doing it for the review credit, none of those actually happened".
It won't help if the cops are looking for something more serious than a prostitution bust, though. If you say in your review something about "she brought me a quarter-kilo of coke and some illegal firearms", say hello to the Graybar Hotel. TER management will happily help put you away, and you'll become a bad memory around here in about two minutes.
Writing reviews is not a crime, and reviews alone are not enough evidence to support a conviction for the actions they describe.
However, if there is other evidence against you and the prosecutor can tie you to your TER handle, the reviews can be used as additional evidence. This is especially true if you wrote a review of the session for which you are being prosecuted, but reviews of prior visits with the same lady may be useful to the prosecution as well to prove such things as (a) that you knew she would exchange sex for money, (b) that you knew who she was, (c) that you were not her boyfriend, etc. And if you testify in your defense, there are many other ways the reviews could be used against you.
Another way the reviews can get you into trouble is as a starting point for an investigation. If the police can figure out who you are and can ID a lady you frequent they may set up a sting specifically targeting you.
I don't know how likely any of these things are to actually happen, but they are all quite possible.
All of this information is very useful, but scares the heck out of me. My first mistake was to take someone else's advice about posting on Craig's List. My second one was to ask him to post a review of our encounter(s). The review uses very explicit language. Should I ask that it be removed? I wonder if that is even possible. Discretion is essential; I get that. Earlier, I posted on the newby board, asking how I will be able to get reviews if no one is willing to meet a new provider. How does one get verified?
I said that a review can be used as evidence against its author, not that it can be used against its subject. The reason a review is useful against the author is that it is his own discussion of his illegal actions, made at a time when he didn't have an incentive to make himself look innocent. This rationale doesn't carry over to the lady being reciewed.
At the same time, police can (and probably often do) choose which ladies to target based upon their on-line reviews. They probably make their selections based upon how busy the ladies are or how much they charge. Where they operate also matters; the Redondo Beach police will care more about a provider who sees two or three clients a week in their city than about one who sees thirty a week next door in Torrence. Price range may also be a factor for some officers.