OK, so for the longest time here many people here said that it's the bay area that has issues, but girls in LA are generally higher quality. And that LA mongers somehow have higher standards.  

There are two factors that can separately or together account for the difference . . . .

Lol. So you think someone like spoon is a new guy who hasn't seen kgirls? You think all bay reviewers are newbies? Spoon has hundreds upon of hundreds of kgirl encounters, he can distinguish the wheat from chaff just fine. Don't believe me, ask Twoon. Lol at frame of reference, get out of here.  

combination of fear black listing and kho's manbitchs reporting on you.

If you can actually read the juicy bits of spoon's review, you would have noticed he added some additional ratings for fbsa.  It doesn't take a genius to know what fbsa stands for, and he gave f 7.5 and b 8.5.  That averages out to 8, not a 6.  I don't know how he came up with 6 overall appearance score based on his fbsa unless it's a hit piece.  

That has been the attitude of K-mongers from the very beginning and that's what I've been saying since the very beginning - K-mongers don't give a fuck about TER.  It's an insular community that doesn't follow TER's rules.  They take, take, take from TER and give nothing back in return.

That's some goooooood eaten'!

He does the same thing on the performance side as well. It is a bit difficult to make heads or tails out of what he is saying, other than the last statement - which I personally find a bit confusing but will chalk that up to not being interested in just fucking a bunch of different women. I would not generally suggest someone see a woman I'm not interested in seeing again.

Honestly, I believe it is “poor form” to use an alias to criticize reviews. I think it’s flamboyantly dishonest to spend as much time and effort criticizing the reviews of others as this person does without being willing to reveal his own.

reviewer named Chef Boyardee.  Look him up.  While TER was dark, he started posting on another website, and hasn't come back yet.  He has 133 posts on this board up until the shutdown.  He's a good guy with a great sense of humor, sort like you on a good day. Lol

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"spoon" is.  I don't recognize him from AF or TER, where I've been since 2008. You SAY he has seen hundreds of Kgirls and I have no evidence to refute that, but how are you  going to trust a reviewer that can't put two  numbers together and  come up with a correct average?  Is a guy who can't figure out how to get an average REALLY the example you want to give of the cream of BA mongers?  Bwahahahaha

I HAVE my reviews here under my name and I have NEVER attempted to hide them. I told many people on here to read my reviews if they want.

I did not say anyone's experience is wrong, I pointed out the difference between grades and that people in LA tend to hype up the same girls a lot more.

I went ahead and submitted a problem report, stating that Alice has two different profiles. Let's see if TER fixes this.

Sorry, you’re still dodging both being open and honest as well as the responsibility of deliberately attacking others by using an alias so  

Well that's BS, unless of course I don't fit the bill of K-monger. I've submitted at least 3 problem reports about dual profiles in the past couple of months.  

Did they ever ask you to submit proof ? Most of the time 'old' profile link, the agency takes down, so I'm not sure how we are supposed to prove it then.

They haven't when I've just submitted the two TER ID's. Then again I don't expect them to respond in these cases. My understanding is that the problem report is largely about reporting a clear problem and the admins will just fix it -- given they agree it is a problem.

You accused me of not wanting to reveal my reviews.  

...there are some guidelines underneath the box where you type the Problem Report.  It says:

...she has the same name and photos in both profiles.  Many times when a K-girl changes cities, the old ad will be taken down as you said.  In a case like that, even if the #1 reviewer on TER says: "I saw Alice in Norcal and Alice in SoCal and they are the same woman," TER won't combine the reviews just on his say so.  They need more proof even though the name is the same and the physical description is identical.  It's even more difficult to prove when the K-girl's name is changed when she changes cities.

Nice try.

Lmao. What am I lying about to you on the forums? I haven't lied about a goddamn thing.  

Misquoted again.

So, you've got nothing to say. Predictable.  

My brother Pied Piper who I will gladly follow...

And still deliberately misreading while pretending to take the high road. Repeating over and over that you are or are not doing something does not make it true.

I will vouch for senor spoon too. I might not agree with his grading scale (I think he's actually too easy), but overall senor spoon has provided us with hundreds of reviews and communicated strength of weaknesses of many girls quote nicely.

MyRedbook or RB.  Then NotAMPmaps.  Then the fork in the road --) Nuerotic Donkey or TER.

I asked you how you can trust a reviewer who doesn't know how to mathematically come up with an average. He takes the time to break down his scoring into subparts, but it makes no sense in relation to his conclusion and final score.  It goes to his cred as far as I'm concerned.  Usually when scores don't match the details of a narrative, its someone that has little experience writing reviews.  You and Twoon say he has written hundreds.  If so, how can he make basic mistakes like this that  are completely at odds with his final score.  We have to conclude that either 1) he is new to reviewing, which you say he is not, or 2)  his reviews are inherently inconsistent,  in which case, they are not  always  reliable.  

You should ask him. Spoon is generally very generous with his scores.  

were generous in the narrative of his analysis.  That wasn't my point.  My point was "how to you trust a guy who doesn't know how to turn a "generous" score into an equally generous average?"  

Senor Spoon is too legit to quit.  Mauibro, Sagbro and Rocketbro have made it over.  Still looking for mr.boji and Six to join...forgive me if I've overlooked any Nor Cal monger bros from NotAMPmaps and Nuerotic Donkey who have 💯 transitioned over to TER.  Be welcome to TER my monger brothers!!!!!

By Six are you referring to sixdnine? I’d be amazed if he got along with rocket. He was a self admitted what you and rocket would call a VIP monger.

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I'm not taking put shots, I'm just asking a legitimate question, and that is "how can you trust the review scores of a guy who doesn't know how to put two numbers together to get an average."  So far, no one has answered the question.  Since I don't know the guy, I'm trying to find out what criteria the NorCal guys use in evaluating the reliability of this reviewer.  Everyone seems to revere him to a certain degree, so does he get a pass on his inconsistent review content and scoring because he's a friend, or what?   Maybe you could get him to come here and answer for himself.  Maybe there is a VALID explanation like a secret formula, or something, that is not readily apparent when you read the review.  

We got along about as well as Armenia and Azerbaijan, correct. Him shilling for Mias org was a bit too much.  

Yup, Six is short for sixdnine.

I’ve been going by useyrhead for a long time on multiple forums.  

These two separate profiles with same pics and same girl still exist... Just sayin'.

and TER has been slow to get to them, but do eventually.  The problem is that there are a ton of new guys that are creating profiles for girls that already have them.  It would be great if they looked first to see if a girl already has a profile and just add to her review history.  Its actually easier when you don't have to set up the profile, just write the review content.  

After you hit "Submit a Reviiew" and then "Agree" to the instructions, you get a page that says:  
Submit a Review
Is this an Existing Provider?
An Existing Provider has a Provider Profile/TER ID.
[ box ID ] TER ID
If you do not remember Ter ID use Advanced Search
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Would it help if TER made a stronger statement or better instructions on that page?  
Maybe they should add something specific, like:  
"Search phone number for an existing profile here: [ box to enter phone ]"
"Search website for an existing profile here: [ box to enter website ]"
"Search email address for an existing profile here: [ box to enter email address ]"
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"Thank you for cooperation to avoid the proliferation of duplicate Profiles."
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Whadya think?  Make it an official suggestion on S&P?

in the OP I think the problem is:
1) Neither profile is currently showing a URL -- both say "Report New Website URL"
2) One says the girl is under 5' and the other says she is at least 5'3"
3) One says she is a B cup while the other says D
4) One has a what appears to be a personal email listed while the other doesn't have any email

This is where a League-type historical concordance of photos and names would really come in handy. You search names or scan photos and find out the Coco in Cucamonga is the same as Nana in New York and Wendy in Washington. (This was also when photos were generally more reliable, maybe with a little photoshopping, but not totally fake. And still the same pic for the same girl, even if she changed names.)

As of the time I wrote the post, both profiles showed links to website. I would assume you actually clicked on the profiles before,when I made the thread.  

The user error is clearly related to the profile created if they were in fact the girl pictured, give the differences in the physical description, don't you think?

Were you talking about those differences when the links were still up? Or when I asked if I needed proof? No. That was my point.  

I was saying it would be nice if reviewers searched for the girl to see if she already has a profile and one or more reviews  BEFORE setting up a new profile.  If she already has profile, you just click "Review this Provider" in the upper right corner and you get the "Agree" page, but then it goes to a different template that does not require all of the profile info, only a few bits of info and the General and Juicy details boxes.  At some point, they will get combined, which means the SECOND guy that filled out the profile will have his thrown out and his review content will be added to the review history on the first profile that was already up. So what I'm saying, if they find an existing profile for the same girl, review off of that profile and you save all the time and work of filling out a profile because the program puts your review with the existing profile.

If a reviewer did NOT start with a Profile ID number (ignorance, laziness, whatever), they will end up on the Submit > Agree > Submit page with another opportunity to enter a Profile ID or start a completely new (potentially duplicate) Profile. That is the page I was "quoting" and suggesting to be modified to make it easier or more obvious to avoid duplicates.  
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But, yes, if a reviewer was already using reviews and already on the page of a Provider he (or she; hi lopaw!) he or she should just "submit a review" starting from the existing Profile.
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Go back and follow the steps I mentioned and you'll see.

I'll let you working on comprehending the point given the context as you claim to be so good at that.

Instead of yet another pointless snarky comment, can you tell me how a user can modify an existing profile's link?

Something that you don't seem to get is that if I post under my "real" username, none of the users will be able to view my reviews.  

You’re deliberately missing the point again. No big surprise. Nice attempt at a dodge, though.

What's your point then? No matter under which name I post, people won't see my reviews under my name in forums. It is you who suggested I can't criticize other people's reviews or patterns without showing my own. Which is an asinine suggestion, BTW.

I didn't think it was made up. I was skeptical, but I always allow for possibilities.

Only TER can update anything in the profile to my knowledge. Everyone has to request the action.

Im still having a hard time theorizing ways a monger would connect online persona on a site to an actual monger. Unless they're really up in booker's business and can interrogate girls. Most girls have several regulars.  

Ruby comes to mind as a recent one for me.    At least 3 before that.  Ruby is a frikkin disaster with a fantastic ass.

Careful, you might be attacked by useyrhead for using an alias and criticizing other reviews.

Here are some of her more down-to-earth less psd pics, straight from org website but not visible outright atm:

Looks like you did some detective work lol. How did you know there were more pics than were being presented?

I didn't know. I was looking through aa pics and found these. There are a lot of pics that are on the website but not being used to advertise a girl. Why - I don't know.  

Thanks for the detailed info. I wonder what the purpose is of the more normal, selfie style photos since they don't post them on the website. Perhaps it's for the org's verification purposes?

These websites are misconfigured so they are NOT allowing you to view the pic but rather failing to prevent the viewing.

Before the multiple busts in NYC and the disappearance of the KMPs, they did not display LINKS to pics of girls who had left but they did allow access to the old photos, if you knew how to edit a URL. That was very useful and important to support claims to TER that Coco currently at Secret Garden was the same Coco who used to work at Fantasia until one month ago (and maybe the same Coco who worked at Luxy 6 months ago, and so on).
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And yet another reason why we need a League-type archive to keep track of who is who and keep our memories alive.

It is not a misconfiguration, by default directory listing is enabled. This is the default setting.  

If you read any information about securing a web server you will find the recommendation is to disable that function and that it is considered a risk and point of attack.

This IS public information, like all the pics there. What the hell is 'normal' access to you?

by users of website. You of all people here KNOW that.

Guessing URLs isn't hacking. You of all people should know that. Some hacking can involve that, but it's as unrelated as noting that hackers eat.
Visiting a URL is like asking an employee to photocopy a document for you. As long as you don't misrepresent yourself it's absolutely reasonable.

The fallacy used by Jensen is that he considers (lack) of visibility the same as privacy and vice versa.
This isn't how stuff works on the internet or security-wise, sorry Jensen.