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Re: from my experience... guys who book multi-hour aren't worried about the price...
Windynerd
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I understand completely the perspectives of providers regarding the use of discount and how the hour of work tend to go down under dates of different duration.
In Mya's example, you clearly tap into different pool of clients. Obviously it works well for providers in this situation. I wouldn't discount if I'm providing when I am able to attract the upper middle class pool. Like any business, different strategies get you different clientele. At $250, your clientele are likely to be those just moving up from BP scenes.
Pricing strategies are not only determined by service value, but also market demands. Clients come and go. They can afford $500/hr now but they may move on to elsewhere or they just can't afford it anymore and leave. Don't get me wrong, I never challenge the pricing of providers, if I cannot afford it, I'd never contact and try to hassle and negotiate. I mean the men who enjoy multi hour sessions usually could care less about getting a discount. In fact they often TIP. (but not including the men who book multi-hours and think they are going to have a marathon bcd , I give those guys a refund after the first hour, once I realize what is on their agenda! lol)
I do not give any discount for multi hours... 500/ per hour, per hour. Period.
I noticed back long time ago when I was 250/hr guys would ONLY book ONE hour...
Then as I began to go higher like 350+/ per hour. Guys actually started booking multi hours and Tipping on top of that.
Honestly I think the tipping part was the shocker for me... consistently the more a guy is paying the more likely he is to tip!
Now a days if a guy books 2 hours he usually leaves a tip AND if it is over 3 hours we might even go shopping and out to eat at a really nice restaurant...
The proof is in the pudding and I have truly started from the bottom and worked my way to the top so I have experienced different rate structures and the clients they attract.
If I can make any correlation at all in this field, its that the more you charge, the better you are treated because the men who can afford to pay that much simply seem to care more , maybe because they can afford to not care so much about the money on the dresser and they know the more money the girl is getting the happier she can be, and they can afford to make her happy, so in turn she will be ever more delighted to make him happy.
Also these men like to invest in an ongoing relationship, so they are twice as likely to repeat with you.
Now the real question is how do you attract more of these multi-hours and Overnighters???!!!
I do not give any discount for multi hours... 500/ per hour, per hour. Period.
I noticed back long time ago when I was 250/hr guys would ONLY book ONE hour...
Then as I began to go higher like 350+/ per hour. Guys actually started booking multi hours and Tipping on top of that.
Honestly I think the tipping part was the shocker for me... consistently the more a guy is paying the more likely he is to tip!
Now a days if a guy books 2 hours he usually leaves a tip AND if it is over 3 hours we might even go shopping and out to eat at a really nice restaurant...
The proof is in the pudding and I have truly started from the bottom and worked my way to the top so I have experienced different rate structures and the clients they attract.
If I can make any correlation at all in this field, its that the more you charge, the better you are treated because the men who can afford to pay that much simply seem to care more , maybe because they can afford to not care so much about the money on the dresser and they know the more money the girl is getting the happier she can be, and they can afford to make her happy, so in turn she will be ever more delighted to make him happy.
Also these men like to invest in an ongoing relationship, so they are twice as likely to repeat with you.
Now the real question is how do you attract more of these multi-hours and Overnighters???!!!
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This topic surfaces pretty regularly and I never commented before because it always seems to go south and end in flame wars when it should be a logical discussion based on a personal business model. I absolutely agree that providers should never be doing extra hours for free. Time is always money. However I don't understand why more providers don't use a sliding scale that would maximize their hourly rate profitability.
Depending on how you operate, you have a number of fixed costs that you have to cover. If you operate out of your home and put minimal effort into getting ready and service primarily regulars then you should stick with a flat rate. But if you book a hotel room or do outcalls that require transportation expenses or put time into preparation for each date (e.g. doing hair and makeup, verifying new clients, etc) then a sliding rate might make more sense.
A typical day for ladies I have seen is to rent a room, travel there, do their prep and see 3 clients (on a good day).
A decent room downtown averages about $125 with taxes, Uber or parking garage and vehicle expense is $50 round trip, and another $25 for miscellaneous (makeup, condoms, lube, wipes,whipped cream, vibrator batteries, naughty nurse’s outfit, nipple clamps - sorry, got off track there). So average of $200 in fixed expenses.
Imagining you are a well reviewed provider who can ask a higher level rate, consider this:
Scenario 1- you see 3 clients for one hour each at $400. 1 is a repeat, the other 2 are new.
2 hours getting to hotel, checked in, prepping room and doing hair and makeup.
1 hour verifying the new clients.
3 hours of actual client time
3 hours in between to prep and accommodate scheduling.
1 hour for room clean up, check out, and drive home.
Total = 10 hours (assuming all goes as planned)
You made $1,200 - $200 in expenses = $1,000 / 10 hours = $100 per hour. Not a bad day’s work, but pretty busy and stressful.
Scenario 2 - You see 2 clients for 2 hours each with sliding scale of $400 for first hour and $200 each additional hour. 1 is repeat, 1 is new.
2 hours getting to hotel, checked in, prepping room and doing hair and makeup.
0.5 hour verifying the new client
4 hours of actual client time
1.5 hours in between to prep and accommodating scheduling.
1 hour for room clean up, check out, and drive home.
Total = 9 hours (assuming all goes as planned)
You made $1,200 - $200 in expenses = $1,000 / 9 hours = $111 per hour.
You increased your hourly wage, took home same amount but worked an hour less
Had half the stress only wondering if one new client was LE or an ax murderer
Even though contact time was 4 hours you probably had less physical wear and tear with 2 guys over 4 hours than with 3 guys over 3 hours.
The guys were thrilled you gave them a great rate and rate you higher because they didn’t feel rushed and made a better connection.
With only 2 clients you had less chance for cancellation (though one client cancelling does have greater impact).l You also might be able to cut back on advertising expenses as you need fewer clients overall and (IMHO) have more repeat clients.
Each provider has a unique set of variables, but I think it’s worth considering. Personally I would be unlikely to book 2 hours at $400, but offer me 50% off additional hours and I’d be pretty tempted.
Depending on how you operate, you have a number of fixed costs that you have to cover. If you operate out of your home and put minimal effort into getting ready and service primarily regulars then you should stick with a flat rate. But if you book a hotel room or do outcalls that require transportation expenses or put time into preparation for each date (e.g. doing hair and makeup, verifying new clients, etc) then a sliding rate might make more sense.
A typical day for ladies I have seen is to rent a room, travel there, do their prep and see 3 clients (on a good day).
A decent room downtown averages about $125 with taxes, Uber or parking garage and vehicle expense is $50 round trip, and another $25 for miscellaneous (makeup, condoms, lube, wipes,whipped cream, vibrator batteries, naughty nurse’s outfit, nipple clamps - sorry, got off track there). So average of $200 in fixed expenses.
Imagining you are a well reviewed provider who can ask a higher level rate, consider this:
Scenario 1- you see 3 clients for one hour each at $400. 1 is a repeat, the other 2 are new.
2 hours getting to hotel, checked in, prepping room and doing hair and makeup.
1 hour verifying the new clients.
3 hours of actual client time
3 hours in between to prep and accommodate scheduling.
1 hour for room clean up, check out, and drive home.
Total = 10 hours (assuming all goes as planned)
You made $1,200 - $200 in expenses = $1,000 / 10 hours = $100 per hour. Not a bad day’s work, but pretty busy and stressful.
Scenario 2 - You see 2 clients for 2 hours each with sliding scale of $400 for first hour and $200 each additional hour. 1 is repeat, 1 is new.
2 hours getting to hotel, checked in, prepping room and doing hair and makeup.
0.5 hour verifying the new client
4 hours of actual client time
1.5 hours in between to prep and accommodating scheduling.
1 hour for room clean up, check out, and drive home.
Total = 9 hours (assuming all goes as planned)
You made $1,200 - $200 in expenses = $1,000 / 9 hours = $111 per hour.
You increased your hourly wage, took home same amount but worked an hour less
Had half the stress only wondering if one new client was LE or an ax murderer
Even though contact time was 4 hours you probably had less physical wear and tear with 2 guys over 4 hours than with 3 guys over 3 hours.
The guys were thrilled you gave them a great rate and rate you higher because they didn’t feel rushed and made a better connection.
With only 2 clients you had less chance for cancellation (though one client cancelling does have greater impact).l You also might be able to cut back on advertising expenses as you need fewer clients overall and (IMHO) have more repeat clients.
Each provider has a unique set of variables, but I think it’s worth considering. Personally I would be unlikely to book 2 hours at $400, but offer me 50% off additional hours and I’d be pretty tempted.
There's no hate from me at all .
Now ... #2 is the only point I definitely agree with tho. My 1hr is 400,2hr 650,3hr is 850 and so on to reflect that I prefer longer dates.
About #1 a lot of cum can be produced in longer dates too nudge nudge wink wink.
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