I was just wondering why some ladies get really
hostile when a guy inquires about BBBJ
I have never had or heard of a provider who insists on or used uses anything when guys DATY.
I wonder how a lady would react if a guy put on latex gloves before playing with her pussy and put that female device on her before sucking her tits or DATY.
If a guy did that it would be posted on every board - that the is either crazy or a pervert.
So when a guy inquires about a bbbj he not saying a lady must all he is asking is that available
Some guys like BB and some ladies specialize in BB - it's a matter of choice for both the lady and guy
Because they know that most providers offer up that service, and it makes them less competitive in the marketplace. Go ahead and bash me ladies, but just look at TER reviews and make a count. And I don't want a lecture about STD's. You don't do it because you choose not to for whatever reason. 90% of all guys in the hobby want a BBBJ, and most of us get that, and way more than half the providers offer it. The fact is, if I see a review of someone I'm interested in, and it's not available, then I choose for THAT reason not to see her. Some providers that don't offer it, will do it if you become a steady client. It's good business. I completely respect the wishes of those who choose not to, but get a little irrated at those who are constantly crusading against it. It's a large part of this business to offer it, and we who want it, and those who offer it are in the majority.
FOr those of you not in the the know, the biggest risk in oral sex falls on the giver... not the receiver. That's why many providers don't mind DATY but won't perform BBBJ. Those giving the BJ are taking in more bodily fluids than they are releasing. Those giving DATY are doing the same. Thus for the woman, BBBJ is much riskier healthwise than DATY.
not DATY (I'm not going to say who, but for the sake of argument, one does exist). She says that she doesn't allow DATY because she fears that she'll get herpes. I've heard that she swallows, though...(I can't confirm this obviously, as I've never seen her).
Hmmmm...?
Tom Let see if I understand you - the giver of oral sex stands the greater chance of getting STD - So a Provider who does a BBBJ stands more of a chance than a Hobbyist who DATY. Don't know how to tell you this but DATY has a greater chance of giving the giver a STD - did you ever hear of a Hobbyist not telling the provider the he has his period.
but that's exactly what I said... the "giver" of oral sex... that means with a bbbj the "giver" is the lady, with DATY the "giver" is the guy (in a heterosexual experience anyway). Ladies have less risk of getting STDs when they are the recipient of DATY than they have when they give head. Hence the reason why some ladies allow DATY but wont do bbbj.
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to use something to daty or use gloves with hands in um certain areas ....
it would be a helluva lot sexier to me than not ..
I get upset when they ask because I clearly state all over that this is not a service I provide
just my .o2
Traci most of the hobbyist have chosen - we prefer BBBJ - and like is stated above the are a lot of provires who are more than happy to provider.
As for the guys that keep asking when tou state No upfront - well you have to know how the Chicago Public Schools work
If you would prefer that hobbyist use gloves and whatever - hand a hobbist gloves and ??? one of two things will happen -
1) he'll die laughing
2) he'll post it on every board laughing his head off
he said he would like to see what a woman would say or think ..I forget now so I gave my opinion ..
I have always stated that it is a persons right to choose what they will or will not do ..or who they will or will not see ...
Nor am I upset if someone doesn't wish to see me beause I do not daty or bbbj ...
It is not my fault they see my eyes and tits and forget to read the rest .... thanks 3k (wink)
as far as the gloves thing goes ... I am really not that anal .... but would prefer that to someone with funky nails and having to let them know they are not touching me there because of them ....
I am simply tired of defending constantly my right to play safe by rude people ...
I do not harass those that choose to play in ways I am not comfortable with ..I just simply ask that I not get harassed either ....
I have great reviews and while the majority may very well prefer bbbj there are and always will be those that like to play my way ...as well
to each their own always
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once we see your eyes and your tits....or vice a versa...it's all over! lol
hmmmm......
well, yes and no......yes because you draw us in with your eyes, and then make us go nuts with your boobs.....no because god gave you both, your eyes and your boobs!
So god bless em! lol
It's gone from comdoms, to gloves and dental dams.
For someone who's in the service business, you really don't like contact.
I feel bad now, someone must have really hurt you as a child.
You are so far off base ...you have zero idea what you are talking about !!!! I have been around awhile and there are enough that have seen me to know ...this is a crock of shit ...
I was not sexually abused as a child ...I grew up actually with some fantastic role models ...
My THING for latex comes from the FACT that I am able to relax and enjoy myself so much more knowing I am minimizing the risks of std's and HIV..
I love to play and seduce ...
you are just a rude ass that refuses to go away ..
I do not seek you or anyone else out to slam them why on the other hand do you feel the need to do so to me,or Brianna .....
I have worked my ass off to build a honest,solid reputation within my realms of acceptability ,and really do not appreciate you or your smartass comments so take them elsewhere ....
oh, and for the pic... May i suggest the salad?
that says your poor attempts at calling me fat ...are funny ...
I am fat dumbass ....no, you may not suggest a salad ... it is none of your concern
what damned denial? that I was not sexually abused ..I was not .....
If I am not to your taste go else where ..how hard is that ?
but why make yourself look ignorant and rude unnecassarily ? why not just leave me alone ...
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That's not my style.
But you put that lumpy thing right in my face, and told me to (eeww) kiss it. YOU stepped over the line that time... sister. 
BTW - I just don't understand why you're in the 'business' if you can only feel comfortable and relaxed with someone if you're both wearing hazmat suits.
I told you to kiss my ass as you are rude as hell
just in the future please ignore all my post and do not reply to anything I say ... is that too much to ask . That you please leave me alone
Some providers want to decide what they offer when they see her clients (YMMV). Thats why some providers have mixed reviews when it comes to a BJ and those dont want to promise anything beforehand.
I agree a double standard exists and even with Dr. Jenkins' assessment it is quite hypocritical for ladies who don't give BBBJ to offer un-protected DATY or even kiss for that matter. Hell, it's all high (er) risk if you want to get technical, condoms and dental dams don't come with any guarantees. When ladies state however that they do not perform w/o the translator, it's best that you stay away rather than risk disappointment. As someone has already alluded to, if you get to know the provider, many of these rules get relaxed; YMMV.
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-- Modified on 8/14/2005 1:58:58 PM
>>Hell, it's all high (er) risk if you want to get technical, condoms and dental dams don't come with any guarantees.
So what you're saying is, it's all-or-nothing - if you can't get 100% safety guaranteed, then everyone might as well go BB?! Come on, get real! Please don't try to mislead others into believing such deceptive and misleading statements about condoms and dental dams...
Everyone benefits by playing safe: SPs, hobbists, and any other partners they may have. It's also an obvious sign of maturity and intelligence, as well as respect (if you handle the issue with sensitivity).
As you may or may not know, the CDC (Center for Disease Control) found that if an HIV vaccine were only to be 40% effective, it would still be worthwhile to mass-inoculate in high-incidence areas like Africa. By comparison, if you Google on condom effectiveness, the numbers appear to be 60 - 95%, depending on how careful the user is.
Just want to set the record straight...
Prince it was you that laid out the "all or nothing" speech, not I. I practice safe sex as we call it and don't condone the opposite. If you are going to read meaning into someone's words without asking for clarification, don't call your brand of truth, absolute. My only point of the post is that it is hypocracy to offer DATY w/o a DD, but give a CBJ. Your soapbox is just to the right, hop on someone else's planet.