Check out today Boston Herald...!!
Once again, painting with the very broad brush of drug addiction and trafficking.
I would say it's one of the big reasons why.
In a vaccum seeing a provider could be ok.
The problem is the drugs and trafficking.
When someone sees a provider that is using drugs or being trafficked, they are ultimately supporting the illegal drug adn/or traffic trades.
and, it is hard to tell what is motivating a provider.
I definately do not want to see anyone who is abusing drugs or being trafficked.
How can you know ?
I would say that the vast majority of providers and hobbyers here do NOT fit the description/demographic that the LE community is targeting-
So, how do we retain our 'way of life' (providers and we who visit them) in light of the current environment?
Seems like the whole 'trafficking' thing is where the law gets involved.
So, may be the end of the Agency era- I would think our kind of networking here would be significantly UTR to avoid scrutiny, but all you need is one clerk at a hotel desk (or suburban neighbor) to get their underware twisted the wrong way, and you get, again, unwanted notoriety.
What to do? Form a members only club? Cooperative ? ( there you go, a non-profit organization, LOL)
Or just keep things 'independent' and be careful......
Only see independents that use hotels where one can be invisible.. no one will bother you.. I learned my lesson with a small place.. never again..
I agree that most people on this board do not fit the demographic le is looking for.
The idea of forming an members only club, sounds like a good idea and it was done years ago,by Baron von Stump and Chantelle, it worked for awhile, but got out of hand, and then shut down. The big problem is who runs it? who decides who can be a member or not? and how to get people to behave nicely. Good luck with that. Not something I would like to take on. I would say the best bet is to stay with well reviewed local or travelling ladies. ( So does anyone else remember the names I mentioned above, just curious)
An LE guy joined The League. Interestingly, everything about The League was to protect the girls from bad guys, by which it was meant Bad Clients who are mean or disrespectful to them; help them with their affairs; etc., etc., etc. There was no trafficking whatsoever.
I don't want to be identified as being in the same category as someone who is taking advantage of under age girls being exploited and abused by their pimp- I don't believe I ever saw a lady younger than 30, all were independent, none were on drugs, and it was always a mutually consenting, and mutually enjoyable interaction.
LE get in the middle if a provider is meeting a client at their home or other non-hotel venue? That seems to be the fail-safe option? Or a hotel if the provider is seeing a very conservative number of clients on any given day.
No question people here ae not the profile LE is concerned with. Mainly a question of being UTR and staying out of their way?
Many people won't want to take the time to do this; my practice has long been to meet for a drink in the hotel, or close by, and share a bit of personal time before going to the room together. I dress business-casual and carry an expensive business folder. Conversation is kept casual. I find getting to know one another makes the private experience that much more enjoyable for both, and no one is going to suspect what is taking place behind closed doors. The maids are looking for gents coming directly to the room.
Perhaps, with the current climate as hot as it is in the Boston area, it's time to up the game and behave in a sophisticated way which will not garner unwanted attention. High end dates always begin over cocktails or dinner.
Your thoughts?
I have always liked meeting before as well Clair.....a lot of providers do not like to do it (for various reasons).
In your proposal, if you meet for a drink is that an add on cost ? (Some men won't want to pay extra for meeting for a drink time)
Excellent idea- slow down the pace of life as well-
Many people won't want to take the time to do this; my practice has long been to meet for a drink in the hotel, or close by, and share a bit of personal time before going to the room together. I dress business-casual and carry an expensive business folder. Conversation is kept casual. I find getting to know one another makes the private experience that much more enjoyable for both, and no one is going to suspect what is taking place behind closed doors. The maids are looking for gents coming directly to the room.
Perhaps, with the current climate as hot as it is in the Boston area, it's time to up the game and behave in a sophisticated way which will not garner unwanted attention. High end dates always begin over cocktails or dinner.
Your thoughts?
Clair
But providers don't love it. It is more emotionally fulfilling to have a nice convo with a provider to start. I don't want to make it into a dinner date, but there seems to be no in-between option. Sexuality is a balance of emotional and physical. A "sudden" meeting without social graces and without a social setting is definitely less fulfilling for me. For her too? We are all human.
You've got fraudulent non-profits ripping off tax money, rampant corruption, and violent crime in the inner cities. But by all means - focus on business transactions between consenting adults!
How is this the end of agencies?...this was a sting operation catching johns with a fake advertisement
So, how do we retain our 'way of life' (providers and we who visit them) in light of the current environment?
Seems like the whole 'trafficking' thing is where the law gets involved.
So, may be the end of the Agency era- I would think our kind of networking here would be significantly UTR to avoid scrutiny, but all you need is one clerk at a hotel desk (or suburban neighbor) to get their underware twisted the wrong way, and you get, again, unwanted notoriety.
What to do? Form a members only club? Cooperative ? ( there you go, a non-profit organization, LOL)
Or just keep things 'independent' and be careful......
I add on an extra half hour to make it work. I don't see many people a day, so it works for me. Simply my preference- I go for Quality over quantity-
That makes sense to me Clair...I like your perspective on how a meet up should go...