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Blacklisted Unfairly by Another Provider
CaitlinKincaid See my TER Reviews 1767 reads
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Serious question for everyone involved.  

Why would a provider blacklist someone when he has plenty of OKs on P411 and has always been a dream of a gentleman? I have come across this multiple times and have had the most wonderful interactions with a few of these blacklisted gents. Honestly, I have NEVER seen this kind of pettiness and drama as much as I have in Atlanta. Just like when I left the business 8 years ago...it was LOW and just WRONG with how some providers treated me and talked poorly of me and that I had never met.  
Some of these ladies may have had a bad experience, but how far is too far for a guy to go? Maybe a lady doesn't want other women to see him? Or maybe they truly had a bad experience that no other ladies have had. There is one gentleman that I absolutely adore and have had several upon several wonderful dates with....he was blacklisted and we don't know why.  

Us ladies that like our gentlemen friends take screening seriously. Blacklisting a gentlemen should be truthful and done with sanity and logic. I am not trying to make enemies here, but let's try to be adults and play together...bc it could be safe and fun.  

BTW I don't do drugs and I don't associate with anyone that does.  I find that it makes life a lot less dramatic and easier.

Great post!  I agree with you 100% here!  Blacklisting should be taken seriously.  When we blacklist someone we are telling all other providers not to see them.  We negatively effecting their hobby life.  For me personally, unless someone is downright dangerous or a repeat offender I don't blacklist much.  I find that screening well weeds out a lot of nonsense and repeat offenders.  

I also do not like to associate with providers that use one of our safety tools as a way to get revenge or hurt a guy. If she would do that to someone else, she won't make a trust-worthy friend.  Either he's blacklist worthy or he's not.  In my opinion, one NC/NS isn't blacklist worthy.  If he's a repeat NC/NS, that's on me for allowing it.  Things like bad hygiene, asking for services not offered and showing up late should not ruin a gentleman's entire hobby life. These are annoyances but not safety offenses. They are things to be shared in giving a reference. The lesson should be taught, though.  This could take discernment.  I personally stop seeing him and give him the respect of informing him as to why we're not meeting anymore.  I have given a second chance to a select few with nor regrets. I get little to no nonsense generally speaking.    

In a nutshell, our safety tools should not be used as tools of revenge, either he's blacklist worthy or he's not.  If I see a guy blacklisted for petty things, I give him a chance.  Much like there are providers I would never accept a reference from, there are providers whose blacklist reports I don't take seriously.  Their just not honest and mature enough people to trust. During my time in the hobby I have seen many providers grow up and grow out of this nonsense, this is a beautiful thing to see.  

We need to keep in mind that people change.  I've given a reference for a regular of mine for many years that was an ass to another provider.  I've never had a problem with him.  She, rightfully so, blacklisted him.  Someone I've blacklisted stopped being an ass afterwards.  Sometimes the threat of being blacklisted is enough to get his attention.  

Games of any kind should not be played.  Period.  We're all on the same hobby boat here!

This has happened to me.   Well, maybe not blacklisted so much, but more banned/ignored.  At first it really concerned me as I could not figure out what I did "wrong" for this to occur.  I asked a few times via email and received no response until I was asked/told not to contact again...  which I followed.  

To this day, I hold no hard feelings.  I occasionally think fondly of the memories.

After a while, you realize that people are people...  we all have quirks, feelings and expectations that we experience differently than others.  The only thing I can say is try not to put too much into it.   Life moves on.  

Loveemandleaveem32 reads

It’s too easy and subjective for a lady to blacklist a gentleman. I’m not aware of how a man, once blacklisted, can protest or have a mark removed from him. Because of this “blacklisting” has become a weapon that ladies wield too easily. I’ve read in these posts, and on ladies’ personal websites, where providers are threatening to blacklist a man if they do or don’t do things the way a lady demands. I’ve learned through experience when I read these, I avoid the lady. To me, crime for blacklisting a man should be limited to a draconian concern like safety.

Personally, I try and treat the lady with the utmost respect. When meeting a lady on a first date I bring them drink(s) of their choice, a gift - can be flowers, chocolate covered strawberries, gift card or their favorite perfume - a thank you card with a personal message for seeing me. If it’s a lady I see regularly, I shower them with more personal, expensive gifts. Over the short period of time I’ve been hobbying, I’ve garnered several OK’s and great relationships with these ladies.  I truly appreciate them and all that they do. Despite all this, I have personally experienced being blacklisted.  To this day I don’t know why. I was initially given an OK, but only to have it withdrawn. I asked the lady why, but never got a reply. Fearful of escalating the problem, I just let it die. Fortunately, I have such a good relationship with the other women they give me glowing endorsements. Some go as far as promote me to other women because they know I will respect them, protect them and appreciate them. Being blacklisted has hampered me from seeing some ladies, but for the most part I have thrived in this wonderful realm of hobbying.

Loveemandleaveem24 reads

Ummm, Let me check ...... yep, I'm a guy.

There's a fine line it's almost like some of the reviews.  It's hard for providers to justify certain things said or the point system even.. I could be a 10 to you but because I didn't perform certain acts I'm graded down to a 7 or 8..   it's not fair to some people to not have a way to dispute certain comments ..... but blacklist should be for dangerous situations and not pettiness

Not sure if it’s generational, market-driven, ubiquity of tech and “Karen’s” in every walk of life these days but I find the dynamics of our little hobby have decayed substantially  in recent years.

Many Atlanta favorites have migrated to Twitter with double-barreled names and actively shame guys on that forum - posting messages that they have received with “how dare they…” comments and the escort community piles on in solidarity.

It used to be that blacklisting was for egregious or dangerous behavior, but I suspect these days it’s routinely because the poor slob didn’t fawn enough over the lady, bring her gifts, tip her enough (on top of already elevated rates) or - heaven forbid - give her a mediocre review.

Sometimes I take the BLs with a grain of salt, especially the ones that say “time waster”, “won’t send deposit”,  and “wants bare”. Bare what? Bbbj is fine with me, BBFS is not. Some providers just BL all willy nilly.  

But, I also want to remind the providers to NEVER tell a client he is blacklisted. Even if you like him. Just because one provider has good experiences with a client does not mean he hasn’t been a bad client for someone else. Never tell him. He may try to circumnavigate screening if he knows he is blacklisted. It’s nice to look out for our sweet clients, but never forget that we are the ones doing a dangerous job and NEED to look out for each other as providers, first and foremost.

OlympicGold20 reads

Sounds like your client is dealing with a crock of crap

It’s not just one, It’s multiple clients. If it were just one I would not have posted about the issue.  It was in Jax and Orlando as well.  

I get it’s a dangerous job on our part but we have to screen well and the newer ladies might get scared off from a really good client bc some provider jumped the gun and spazzed out or is trying to keep the client on a leash- yes it’s been done.  

A provider actually had her bf pretend  to be  a Duval County Sheriff. There is JSO in Jax. The games these women play can be so childish and ridiculous.  Things have got to change for the better in Atlanta. Tired of the threatening  texts as well.  

I’m going to start a blog when I get my website up.  I’m not speaking up for just myself but the other ladies that have been treated the same, along with hobbyists! Tired of the same ole’ games.  

TheArtofProjection35 reads

“...it was LOW and just WRONG with how some providers treated me and talked poorly of me and that I had never met. “

.. You talk mad shit about other providers who you don’t know/ have never met. Karma isn’t always kind. Maybe what goes around comes around ?

OlympicGold27 reads

Why are you choosing now to attack CK? (I think those that have been paying attention know who’s behind your alias)

If you don’t have the balls to post under your own name, your comments are easily discarded

Thank you for proving my point well, everyone knows who is behind the alias, lol. Please stop using your bf to intimidate clients and providers on the phone. If it helps anyone figure things out, the number on caller id is 000-000-0000. Funny thing is that you told me what you get your bf to do- then you do it to me?!!! I don't appreciate my trust in you as a "friend" to be undermined. For the last 4 1/2 months I have listened to you talk literally nonstop for 45 minutes to an hour and a half about this provider or this client. Just like the lady I helped into this business tried to use my trust and backstab me and take over my business with her boyfriend. I started in 2010 if that helps anyone figure out the Kincaid link. I have no family members in this business.....duh, lol.  

I have a HUGE heart and I love to help people when they need it. I mean well when I start a friendship with someone. Once I start seeing the real person, I drop them fast because what is the point when they just take, take and take more. I do not trust anyone. As they say, you only have a few people in this world you can trust. Apparently it is a tried and true saying. My experience is probably the same with a lot of the ladies.  

Nobody has time for the BS. Rant is over and I refuse to be walked all over anymore. EOM

TheArtofProjection17 reads

You clearly have me confused with someone else. Just the fact that you can’t decipher which gal I am, that you’ve been trashing, speaks volumes about your character.

I've never in almost 20 years ever blacklisted a gentleman, EVER! I've honestly never had the need to. I feel like a real BL would involve someone DANGEROUS! to my life or my family.  As much as I may get hate for saying this, it needs to be said...I really don't have issues with gentlemen.  My issues I've had in the past came from other providers. Any provider can SAY all kinds of stuff against clients and other providers... I've been accused for YEARS of trash talking people to clients n yet not one single client has ever backed that 🤣 n ladies just believe wtf ever with having never even met. with very little to no repercussions.  I honestly just dgaf anymore to deal with provider drama. Hey, I love ladies n Infact I started the ladies parties in Atlanta years ago.  I'd love just ONE lady to stand up n prove where I fkd HER over. Infact,  I've lost so much money recovering money from bsc women.... it's honestly appalling over the actual amount of money. I've rescued from abusive boyfriends to helping move with little notice, lending money, shit stolen from me, trashing me, apartment leases, etc.  Never minded sharing n doing doubles. N yet providers n their mental shit goes there. I can't even imagine what you GOOD guys go through.  I know I have providers that have never had a conversation with me absolutely hate me, really for no other reason but what some other chic told them or what they heard 🙄🤣🤷‍♀️ N yet STILL I idgaf honestly.  I make my money from men, not providers... I've always been reference friendly n love everyone having a great time.... again BL should be for DANGEROUS clients only IMO!  
Thankfully,  I have quite the following of absolutely lovely men and equally lovely ladies that don't deal with this bs either 😍 ok, now back to the fun parts 😘
Love,  
TL

On another note.... there are those especially crazy guys that will be a knight in shinning armor to many ladies...only to go nuts on just one. There are also providers just like that too... JS
LOVE,
TL

Sometimes a guy with a long Blacklist just proves he's not LE and most the girls that report the BL were most likely QV girls no accustomed to dealing  with true Hobbyists, but sum be right and u should  avoid. To bad Gina kicked me off p411 8 yrs ago for giving  a guy 6 OKs saying  no way he seen 6 girls  in a month which is a ridiculous  thing for her to say. Oh yea have yall seen chanel new pics

Many are on drugs & should led of quit the business long ago. I myself don’t use the blacklist and never have blacklisted anyone, but I have had some pretty awesome encounters with plenty of blacklisted gentlemen. It’s wrong. Take everything with a grain of salt & always trust your instincts.

I used to have lots of providers who I associated with & feel I can voice my opinions honestly. Back in the day I would host meet & greets for females only, so providers knew the ladies personal whom they were asking for a reference. I have never trusted a reference from anyone I did not know personally.  Meeting providers when they travel to my city & taking them out for drinks, or paying for a meal allows me the ability to see them in real life for who they truly are it’s a phenomenal experience.  

Happy hobbying my TER friends. Smile for me! Xoxo 💋  

Great post. I hit the like button lovely.

It's either a jealous provider or someone with a big ego... because had I not done my own due diligence I would have missed out on meeting some amazing people!

 
I screen on an individual basis because honestly what's the difference between double checking or meeting a newbie.   You honestly never know you just have to screen well and go with your intuition.  

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