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I do not disagree with the concept of beauty being in the eye of the beholder. However...
SomewhereOverTheRainbow 446 reads
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...that is not the basis of my argument here. What I disagree with is providing ladies with a departure fee because of inflated appearance scores from guys giving out 8's, 9's and 10's for fear of retribution, not because they are ugly men who cannot tell a beautiful woman from an unattractive one. And this has nothing to do with age. My mom is 55 years old, a splitting image of a famous actress and gets confused as my sister all the time. Some older women can outshine the younger ones any day of the week.

Back to inflated scores and lies...the guy should not have to pay a departure fee, rather the men who lied out of fear should wire him the money and cover the cost since they set this gent up to fail with false expectations.

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Justin_Beaver1724 reads

Let’s just say for example, your hourly rate is $350. Would you be ok if the gent informed you politely that he just isn’t into you, and said I’m sorry for any inconvenience I may have brought to you, but here’s $100 for the trouble, have a nice day, I’m out of here.

Would you be fine with this?

I’m sick of expecting 8’s and 9’s, and when the door opens, I see a 6

I have seen whole bunch of threads regarding this (usually with ripoffs/switch & bait). Some guys just paid for travel expenses ($50-$75) when the lady was a switch & bait. Not sure about the situation in which she is "real" but you just don't feel like having a session because of your own expectations...

Well if other reviews say 8/9 (many of them) but you think she is just a 6, perhaps you are not looking at the right direction...

MSHSEX588 reads

You would give $100 to a paid escort that was misrepresented (either directly through false advertising or indirectly through inaccurate reviews)?

I'd say you're enabling those escorts by rewarding them for selling you a bill of goods.

Posted By: Justin_Beaver
Let’s just say for example, your hourly rate is $350. Would you be ok if the gent informed you politely that he just isn’t into you, and said I’m sorry for any inconvenience I may have brought to you, but here’s $100 for the trouble, have a nice day, I’m out of here.

Would you be fine with this?

I’m sick of expecting 8’s and 9’s, and when the door opens, I see a 6

...not being into her'.  If she is 10 years older and/or 50 lbs. heavier than her pics, then she deceived you and you should explain why you're not diggin' her.  She knows her ad is misleading and she should expect guys to bail.  But that doesn't mean she won't get mad if you don't give her a cancellation fee.

I do not think that your expectations are too high, you just do not know what to expect since nowadays many reviewers literally score every lady as "really hot" to "once in a lifetime". So if you feel the lady is not really an 8, 9 or 10 in appearance, say "I apologize, I have the wrong room" and then turn around and leave. People knock on the wrong doors...it happens.

Keep all of your money.

The scores for appearance aren't even helpful any more. Here's my take on scoring: if you were to take the provider to the local Hooters and she's not the hottest girl there, she's not an 8. If you were to take her to the best high-end strip club in town and she's not among the hottest girls there, she's not a 9. A 10 means she belongs in a Victoria's Secret catalog.

Some guys grade based on what other providers in that area have, meaning if some girl who you would rate a 4 has 8s and the girl you see looks better, they give her a 9 based on the fact they feel she looks better than the other ladies with the higher scores. Now, other guys grade as you stated...based on Hollywood or pro model looks. The problem arises when they feel that because there are so many not so hot girls in that area getting higher scores that don't deserve them, the girl they are with should get better because they feel she looks better.

So on one end you have guys grading based on a model comparison, and the others on a provider comparison. I would rather be compared to the other providers personally, because it is more realistic. I am not 9 or 10 by any means compared to Hollywood standards but if you see some of the girls in my area getting 10s, you would understand what I am saying. If some girl who had no teeth is getting 8s, then most of us should rate a damn 9!

... send a PM to the reviewers before you schedule anything. With the amount of blackmail, blacklist threats, and favors for better scores going on the appearance numbers are totally useless. Give a well reviewed lady an 8 and she's crying rape around here, give her a 7 and you'll be needing to go into the witness protection program. Writing reviews isn't worth the drama.

lex90027654 reads

Just stop expecting! Or expect a 4 and you'll be pleased with a 6.

Agreed, stop rewarding false advertising.

Inspector.Clouseau420 reads

Unfortunately the game is rigged in favor of the provider.   If you leave, without paying something, she may threaten to blacklist you on a public website.   And if you write a poor review, she can use the system to get it removed, and then blacklist you.

The grade inflation is rampant, and the misrepresented photos are many.   However, there are still a number of true gems out there.

MSHSEX494 reads

That was a good joke.

In all seriousness, the difference is that clients already have an expectation of what the paid escort will look like (from her website ad, reviews, etc.). Paid escorts usually do NOT have an idea what the client looks like.

Posted By: JuliasLilSecret
Oh come on, it was a joke!  LOL!!!!!  =P  :D

yeah but you're getting paid! LOL

Posted By: JuliasLilSecret
Oh come on, it was a joke!  LOL!!!!!  =P  :D

Posted By: JuliasLilSecret
Oh come on, it was a joke!  LOL!!!!!  =P  :D

in your research, this should not happen, IMHO.  I make dates because I did what I see in the pics.  Thus far, I have not been deceived to the point that I just can't go thru with it.  A few were not quite as hot as I expected, but still had good times.  Remember, the numbers are subjective, and one guy's 8-9 might be another's 6-7.

Swim

If you do your homework this should not happen. On the other hand we all know things happen.

If the issue is old photos, gained weight, a total misrepresentation as to what you ordered, don't pay  dime and tell them no thanks. No compensation is necessary, she knew the chances she was taking. She knows she does not look like her advertisement. Women are as vain as anyone else, we know when we are trying to fool the camera.

If the issue is that what you see in person just does not trip your trigger, but her photos are correct. She is in the same weight and age range and she presents professionally, then you should consider a small compensation gift, say 100.00. This is a mistake that you made. You took her time, caused her to get ready for you, perhaps even insisted that she come to your location. Be reasonable and polite and you need not worry about anything.

As an example, my photos never show my face. My advertised photos nor my website photos. And my website makes it clear in the FAQ that while I never show my face, if your not happy no hard feelings and go our separate ways.

Just my two cents

He may do his research and her body looks like a ten and her reviews state she is a 10, but because she blurs her face he is unable to determine she is really a 5. And if he is a face man, that's a problem.

There is no way to do research in this aspect, so if he opens the door and she is not attractive, do you really think he should have to pay a departure fee? It is not about false advertisement or beauty being in the eye of the beholder, but reviewers giving ladies 10's when most likely they do not even feel the women are actually 10's. However, they are scared to submit a lower rating. It sets other men up to fail, IMO.

and the reviewers giving her 10s in looks...it is what they "thought." You need to start considering that the uglier the reviewer, the higher the scores might be. Just as my blacklist post suggested, a young guy might not always find a woman 20 years older than him to be the cat's meow, but she very well could have all high scores. Look what happened to that poor dude when he walked...blacklist, but he should  not have given his real info. being he had 6 good refs. She DEMANDED it, or she would not have seen him...he would have been better off to pass right then.

...that is not the basis of my argument here. What I disagree with is providing ladies with a departure fee because of inflated appearance scores from guys giving out 8's, 9's and 10's for fear of retribution, not because they are ugly men who cannot tell a beautiful woman from an unattractive one. And this has nothing to do with age. My mom is 55 years old, a splitting image of a famous actress and gets confused as my sister all the time. Some older women can outshine the younger ones any day of the week.

Back to inflated scores and lies...the guy should not have to pay a departure fee, rather the men who lied out of fear should wire him the money and cover the cost since they set this gent up to fail with false expectations.

$.04

I am only a 6?" Get real lol. I consider myself an 8 at best, but do you suggest I argue with guys who want to give me higher than that? Maybe it was a good hair day lol, who knows. You can't blame the provider because other guys give her high scores. If her pics are accurate, that's the best you can do other than considering the reviewer. Don't put the blame on providers for what guys give them in reviews. Common sense suggests we are not all seeing Brad Pitt every day.

Prime example: I have literally one 6 in looks, and I about died. I later looked at his reviews and sure enough the 2 women who can't stand me were his atfs. My best provider friend even told me he confessed to her why he did that to me...fkin sad, but I should have gotten that in print so I could have done something about it. Since she is not his new fave, she is not going to go messing that up by bitching at him for doing that to me, nor would I expect that.

His score was malicious in every sense of the word, but most guys had the common sense to realize this and still saw me...their scores were much higher too and they had been with true 10s. It also works the opposite way with the higher scores.

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Some (alot more then you think I bet) ladies have inflated scores because they blackmail, threaten blacklisting, or give out favors for higher scores. Yes, that IS the providers fault. I don't know why some people can't get that concept.

As for a departure fee, if you don't want to pay one then don't. It doesn't matter if 99% of the providers who respond here tell you that you should. It's your life and you're free to live it anyway you want. I've never been to an appointment where I was so let down by the ladies appearance that I considered bolting. However, if that day ever comes, I'm leaving without paying a dime.

with the mid-range providers. It is usually the ones who have some inclination to think being in the top 100 makes a bit of difference in making money...that is just a false sense of ego and a bit naive. Many providers cherry pick the guys they see by looking at their review scores. If they feel the scores are too low, they won't see a guy for fear of getting OMG an 8. If you are that confident in your service and looks, what are you afraid of?  There are so many more ways I can think of to get approval other than being the best hooker lol. In short, I agree with you. I am just saying there are so many more instances where older men give out better scores than some 20 year old.

Inspector.Clouseau456 reads

I did my research.  I considered the reviewers.  It was in Texas.   And the fee was double 200....   And she looked absolutely nothing like the pics.  They were not even old pics - they were simply not at all legitimate or representative.   This has nothing to do with beauty being in the eye of the beholder.   Also, they did not show her face but that was not the problem - her figure was nothing like the pics

Both the provider and the reviewers defrauded me.   And there is nothing I could do about it due to fear of being blacklisted - she basically threatened that.   This happens far more often than people like to admit.  It sucks.  And thensystem is rigged against the hobbyist.

Shame on all those involved.

I will also state that on a number of occasions I have been very happy with the appearance of the provider.   This only happens occasionally.

A reviewer should simply not post a review rather than post one with inaccurate appearance ratings

Posted By: London Rayne
and the reviewers giving her 10s in looks...it is what they "thought." You need to start considering that the uglier the reviewer, the higher the scores might be. Just as my blacklist post suggested, a young guy might not always find a woman 20 years older than him to be the cat's meow, but she very well could have all high scores. Look what happened to that poor dude when he walked...blacklist, but he should  not have given his real info. being he had 6 good refs. She DEMANDED it, or she would not have seen him...he would have been better off to pass right then.

no clue why you would stay to begin with. Start doing like scoed does, and review under an alias. That way, she can't blacklist crap! If her face was fine, then that has nothing to do with what I said about being discreet by blurring it. You are talking about her figure, which was misrepresented in the photos.

What is the point in giving it out? I give out enough info they can see I am safe so they need not know I am scoed on TER on this and a few other review sites. I admit I review on my P411 but I don't give out my info on my handle or where I review. I do have reviews posted on multiple sites. With my handle the can go psycho on me if I have to write a not so happy review, without it they are less able to do so.

I ask the honest ladies if they want a review but I don't give out handle info out. I review if they say yes. Dishonest ones just get reviewed about a month or to after and it will be aliased. But I have not had a bad experience since review aliases came out as for most of that time I was just too sick to hobby and I screen well.

I do have a alias review and it has my highest performance score ever. She got a 9. I used my alias for anther reason.

Shill reviews written by ladies/pimps are far from rare. Cherry picking is extremely common. Many guys are afraid to review low ad have admitted it. Much of this is hard to weed out. Many in this game have no integrity. I have first hand knowledge of how vicious some ladies can be. Reviews from unknown reviews are to be looked at with suspicion. I wish it all was old fat guys thinking any thing with a pussy is hot, but much of is much more sinister.

guarantee said guy will think she is hot. I just updated my photos after much bs, but I still don't show my face...sorry, some of us have plans for our lives after hooker world is over with. I made sure to tell the guy not to photoshop a damn thing, but only to airbrush the skin a bit and blur the face. Now if a guy shows up and says I don't look like my pics, he is full of shit. Just say, "You're ugly as fk" and be on your way ha ha.

Although Reagan never shows her face, I can attest to the fact that she is really very beautiful. As anyone who has read her posts knows, she is also very classy. I am sure that no sane man has ever walked away upon seeing her.

wackcrack363 reads

I guess you've seen many 6's... what is $ 5,4,3,2,1

Posted By: Justin_Beaver
Let’s just say for example, your hourly rate is $350. Would you be ok if the gent informed you politely that he just isn’t into you, and said I’m sorry for any inconvenience I may have brought to you, but here’s $100 for the trouble, have a nice day, I’m out of here.

Would you be fine with this?

I’m sick of expecting 8’s and 9’s, and when the door opens, I see a 6

I had a meet set with this lady with good reviews. I got to the complex early and i saw her drive in. I wasn't sure it was her but she was packing at least 25 extra pounds. So I call her and she gives me the unit number and says thee door will be open. So I go in there. It's really dark. There is a jar of pasta on the counter. The pasta was in the shape of dicks, tits etc..  So I start to look around and there is all sorts of creepy stuff. I hear her rattling around getting ready for about 10 minutes. She comes out in a dress about 4 sizes too small looking like a stuffed sausage. She took one look at my face and said "this isn't going to happen is it?" I gave her $40 and was out the door breathing a sigh of relief!

arthur13453 reads

There is a reason why some of these ladies do not show their face, and while they always claim it is due to discretion in many cases it is not.I remember this one provider who would always brag about how careful she is about not having any face pics online.Only problem is she was drunk with a friend one night and sent a face pic out to a few board members.Ofcourse the picture eventually made the rounds In the picture her face was easily no more than  a 4 but in her reviews she is often rated a 9.I stick with girls who show their face period.

Posted By: Justin_Beaver
Let’s just say for example, your hourly rate is $350. Would you be ok if the gent informed you politely that he just isn’t into you, and said I’m sorry for any inconvenience I may have brought to you, but here’s $100 for the trouble, have a nice day, I’m out of here.

Would you be fine with this?

I’m sick of expecting 8’s and 9’s, and when the door opens, I see a 6

Tell me, how do you know that photo was of the provider you think it was of? I have sent face pics out after screening to a few guys who had just as much to lose as I do, and none of them ever made the internet. I would not do it again or make a habit of it for sure, but some do. Not all married men (unlike you) can risk being seen with a girl who plasters her face all over the net. I know of another provider who has all high scores and her face is dog ugly..butterface I believe they call her. Yea, that was something bwahahahah! Funny thing is she DID get all bent out of shape when a guy gave her a 7, and he said he was being nice as it should have been a 5.

I would not say my face is my best feature, but most say I either look like Reese Witherspoon or a young Anna Nicole, so I will take that. I don't have acne or scars and I have perfect teeth, but I do benefit from Botox for sure.  I am not one to brag about how hot I am either like some, so it does not look as stupid if someone bashes me. Pssst, got some new pics on eros for ya Arthur...unedited ha ha.

-- Modified on 5/7/2012 4:58:24 AM

to even give the 100 IMO. If the pics are accurate, it's not her fault or yours if it's just not there.

-- Modified on 5/7/2012 4:06:37 AM

If you hobby in NYC, LA or Vegas, $500 is the mininum for a real 7. I always deduct at least a point from the TER score; if a woman has all 9's and 10's, then I expect at least a real 8 which is a head turner in my book. All you have to do is check how much the top TER providers charge to know that you are not going to find a model material for $350. Many guys inflate their scores because they don't want to deal with angry providers as one poster indicated. I can't say I blame them because I've dealt with a few myself.

You have to consider that just like in the real world, the more you dig a person's attitude the more attractive they become. So, at times that first glance may not be so impressive, but the end of the date said provider could go from a 7 to a 9 based on personality and performance. It's hard to think a chick (any chick) is ugly when your d*ck is in her mouth lol. :)

I STRONGLY disagree with you.  I have really high standards as far as who I'll make an appointment with.  I'm new to the 'hobby' but have met with three women in the $300 to $400 range who were smoking hot.  And I'm someone who would never inflate my review scores, but I do realize one guy's 10 is another guy's 7.

well you can always have the session and refuse to pay..all these brainiacs do is give the hobby a bad name and make our girls screen even more..like london always says..if you can't run with the big dogs..get your stupid puppy ass off the porch..

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