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Be careful out there.

JohnISmyname821 reads

I believe this is very different than our hobby. I may even report them myself. I am sorry if I offend anyone here, but I find it extremely distasteful.

I agree, totally different ball game.  I have a lot more to say but won't.  

Posted By: JohnISmyname
I believe this is very different than our hobby. I may even report them myself. I am sorry if I offend anyone here, but I find it extremely distasteful.

I second that agreement. I don't think any of our TER or CV ladies look like
they have been brutalized of starved. Matter of fact they look better than
most women walking the planet.

Posted By: jennybrightgfe
I agree, totally different ball game.  I have a lot more to say but won't.  
Posted By: JohnISmyname
I believe this is very different than our hobby. I may even report them myself. I am sorry if I offend anyone here, but I find it extremely distasteful.

More than distasteful, deplorable would be more like it. Recently read of the same thing happening with women from Mexico. Whole families go out and recruit girls, pretending to love them and then selling and shipping them up to the US.

Posted By: JohnISmyname
I believe this is very different than our hobby. I may even report them myself. I am sorry if I offend anyone here, but I find it extremely distasteful.

Clitortarian527 reads

The link below is an example of what you mentioned with Mexican trafficking and yes there are some outrageous things being done out there that we all should find rather disgusting.  Drug cartels can find this attractive because laws and enforcement have not caught with it was they have with drug trafficking.  So they have tended to feel there is less legal risk than getting caught with 400 pounds of cocaine.  For us it's not always that easy to tell when a provider is doing it by choice or by coercion.  Some coerced providers learn to be very good actors because they know it's bad for their business if clients think they are sex slaves.  When business gets bad they know their traffickers/pimps take it out on them.  This is one reason it is best for us to focus on known reputable providers who we know do it by choice and enjoy the full benefits of the profession themselves.  Those such as the lovely independent ladies who participate on this board for example.   :-)

My concern is that the laws tend to go from one extreme to another and if this continues, which it likely will, ever more laws may be passed.  All you need is for there to be a major government scandal involving trafficking that causes government embarrassment in Washington and the laws will fly out the door.  Just look at the housing bubble and the laws and regulations that came from that, anything to deflect the blame form themselves.  If/when that happens there will be the temptation in some circles to try and start moving stronger laws into application of other areas of the hobby that involve fully willing participants.  Hopefully a temptation that will not take root or fly in the courts, but still a temptation.  One big grey area is the K-girl area where some will argue that it is a form of trafficking and others that it is not.  I don't even want to open that can of worms again on this board other than to point it out as a possible area of concern.  Then it can move to other agencies and maybe even independents.  

If you do come across a provider where things just don't seem right and it looks to be a trafficking, sex slave, type situation there are things you can do without having to call LE.  There is an anti-trafficking hotline service called the National Human Trafficking Resource Center.  They have a national, toll-free hotline available to answer calls from anywhere in the country, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, every day of the year.

This is a program of Polaris Project (www.polarisproject.org) which is a non-profit, non-governmental organization working exclusively on the issue of human trafficking.  They are not a government entity, law enforcement, or an immigration authority.  Their number is 888-3737-888 and would be a reasonable place to report forced human trafficking.  

Fucking shit never stops. I agree with you fully about tackling it from other venues besides LE and calling places like the Polaris Project. I also agree with you that the laws tend to go from one extreme to another and that with issues like this going on even stricter laws than the recent ones that went into effect will go into place, and as it stands now they are coming down hard on everyone.

Clitortarian293 reads

Of course we all here know how to fix this problem.  Legalize the profession then focus on the problems such a forced human trafficking.  Same issue with how they should legalize certain drugs and regulate them.  The data in the link below speaks to which country seems to have the worse vs. less drug problem, especially when it comes to the hard drugs like heroin, meth, etc.  I have a hunch the Dutch also don't have much of a human trafficking problems either.  


Misschien moeten we get real in de Verenigde Staten en een les te nemen van een systeem dat lijkt te werken echt goed, dus niet zo erg af te dwingen, en zelfs lijkt zelfs leiden tot lagere misdaadcijfers.

There is no possible defense to human trafficking, other than it simply not being true.
If I ever saw or learned of such activities, I would report it without a second thought.
I am not sure how I would report it, depending on how I learned about it.
But I have no doubt I would find a way.
If we are going to take part in these activities, and presume to defend them morally, then we cannot ignore the things that happen for which there is no defense. We should be the first to attack the people doing this crap as the scum that they are.

LE_phobic360 reads

We should all abhor and denounce HT. It gives this hobby a bad name thru guilt by association.
Fortunately for this Bd, HT victims have been found to be confined in MP, strip clubs, truck stops and street walks. This info was reported in some TV reports on ABC Nightline, CNBC and MSNBC. On the CNBC program "Dirty Money", two female professors went to some length to articulate the big difference between the hobby for consenting adults, vs. those activities involving coerced victims.

simon templar321 reads

let me ask a dumb question.  Here's the thing, everytime you go to an AMP,  aren't you partaking in the HT?  How do know that the place is above board and that they are legal?
It would seem to me that we would have to avoid amps altogether.  It's  not like we could go to your neighborhood "jade spa" and ask,  "before I get my happy ending, I just want to make sure you aren't doing trafficking,  are you?"

Clitortarian217 reads

That's a good question.  I have seen some where that seems to be the case and other where it seemed less likely.  I have gotten to the place where I avoid many of those.  It's not just the possible HT aspect, but also the volume, "revolving door", aspect.

Posted By: simon templar
let me ask a dumb question.  Here's the thing, everytime you go to an AMP,  aren't you partaking in the HT?  How do know that the place is above board and that they are legal?
It would seem to me that we would have to avoid amps altogether.  It's  not like we could go to your neighborhood "jade spa" and ask,  "before I get my happy ending, I just want to make sure you aren't doing trafficking,  are you?"

Since we're a vital part of this industry, we need to help "self-regulate" it.  It's not only LEs job, it's ours too unless we want the Provider side to disappear.  We have a "vested interest", dare I say "skin in the game", in protecting the "trade".  In my experience, if there's a booker or any third party involved in the transaction, there's a much higher likelihood that the Provider is at least in an exploited situation, if not an outright HT victim.  I avoid any but one-on-one relationships from first call to the adios. I want to avoid contributing one dime to the HT-Drug cartels.

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