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I agree with you on all  
my value is not my $$$$ logo  !!! nOt at all
You people think that I put  $$$$ value higher because I  am proud and think about myself as about  the best ? naive way to think I know there many nice women - it is their  own  matter how they conduct it
Just think- woman if she is   intelligent and wise
she would know   that market  model here is  same business world

so let me  try explain myself in terms of curve of supply and demand  yes also take in to count  market .. competition   .( BUT  I talk that way ONLY to explain it to those who still can not get why I am more ..  expensive and what i try to achieve  with that  - it is NOT not just  about roses trust me ..!! NOPE  we russian women are NOT gold  diggers as you think  ;)

 so demand and supply will dictated  price yes ?
and  as you know  competition  is beaten up with price variations ..

yes ?  and some
business will  regulate their  margin with price... it is common ..but  little % of ..
. some  old fashion companies  who are dedicated to create unique  service and  strive to build their assets not just inventory  ha ha ha as assess and  fake boobs
but to build Good Will which is also  an asset  which is  Business reputation  and strive  to  stay apart from  the mass  ws unique performance  -
those  would like  stick to own vision  to stay apart a bit  and  even ready to  acquire loss ( to bad in this area of business there be not write off of start up expenses or  losses care overs  ha ha ha I wish .. so come to help me - I just  started!! not as 10 years in  this adult business .. so those who read all that - a bit of commercial - come and  support me - you will get triple value on your 1000  as it always written on my reviews - citing " if you want NON mechanical performance- she is not one to miss"
" I never remember my escorts - but I  never will  forget her"
"  She is on of 4- 5 women on all TER "
Come over and give me hand  and I give you above invested value "
 End of commercial zone
So Iam old fashion  type of business model who cares most  not about short time profits but about building lasting relationship with my  clients

Private companies do not sell shares. :) I do not  seel my shares as 300 sorry
I am oriented on those who will stay with me at list for soem time and  for whom price  variations is not deal beaker  ..  you know what I mean ??

I not telling you l iam the best - and it seems what irritates you the most ? IT IS miss understanding
I do not know who the  best - market will show  - you my  lovers will show it with your bookings and so far you are  doing well - Thanks
I think I explained you myself well and  you stop hate me here because of I  try to provide you with the best possible .
$ Iam warm and romantic nice person  gentlemen just loose their mind from my personality but to loose mind- he has to take time to know me as min - 2 -3 hours e
I  do my ways I not going with crowd that all  and btw it shows when iam with man  too ::) read about me talk to me know me  more . Kisses


So  please stop to destroy me  that I said 300 $$$ men are not so good lovers .. may be I said it wrong - may be they just need more time .. may be they need jsut plan better.. may be their need just make more money .. but how come it is always that 300 dollar man wants his ass be licked while  3000 tunr on from doing it himself  ;) ?
(ask any girl  is  she  was in real  well appreciated date . who was better to he ?  there are many factors .. but  one of them time also of course
But generally if he can afford it  he doing wellin life and   you know. he can plan ahead so he have more then an hour  and . have brains to start..- you, American born  live in capitalistic society and you know what is free enterprise yes ?
and it suppose to  be the way that smart  ones  doing well and those  who do not have brains  do not  do well ?.
. hmm if you will start argue with me on THAT .. then Compradors .. let talk COMMUNISM  
\I would not post anymore under  so go head  beat me up as you only can  hardrrrrrr harder ...   iam ok .. Iam a sex doll  will take it  all  
Buy be better if you will give me break - you feel better and about yourself  too !! If you not - then you have some personality problems:0 cheers  



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Most of my activity has been in the Baltimore/Washington area.  I have less experience in other markets.
Speaking with one of my repeat providers last night we spent time talking about how DC fares compared to other US cities.

I also have been talking online with providers in other cities and I am hearing a recurring theme.  DC is a low class/low end market for providers and hobbyists.  My initial investigation leads me to believe that this might be true.  There are many nice ladies in other parts of the country who visit the east coast, but intentionally skip DC for various reasons.

I personally am making efforts to become a better hobbyist, hopefully I will make some sort of progress.  I know that I am personally not without flaws (i.e. I accept some of the blame).

A question for providers:
Are you real GFE material, do you take pride in your craft?  Is DC a city of gentlemen and courtesans?  Or is DC more similar to a seedy low class environment full of cheap experiences, violence, rip-offs and low expectations?

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Prices for BP providers are unbelievably low compared to 5 years ago. Many BP providers don't even post hourly rates.  Some have 1/2 hour rates as low as $60-$100, hourly rates as low as $80-$100.

We have had the top notch providers raise their prices to be $400 or more an hour.

The middle tier is sticking between $200-$300/hour.

Be careful with BP if you don't know what you are doing. What you say is very true about the area being seedy on the low end.

I’ve worked in the DMV for years and never had a problem except the occasional cancellation. It is the best market in my opinion.  I keep coming back simply because I really enjoy the friends I make and keep long term.  Of course, if you read my website and reviews then you realize I don’t put up with any crap so that probably helps weed out the jerks.  I also take a good look at who I am seeing to make sure we will enjoy one another.  If I had a phone that I just picked up and did light or no screening then said “sure, come on over”, then I would expect problems or low end clients.  The beauty of email is you can see if the person is literate and can put together simple sentences.  Subsequent emails reveal sense of humor, demeanor, etc.   I turn away a fair amount of business because I like to keep my sanity, seriously.

On a broader note, I think that it really helps if a provider has a clear sense of who she is and how she portrays herself.  The law of attraction comes into play-you get back what you put out there.  I am very clear about who I am and don’t try to appeal to everyone.  Being myself really does help.  It must work because I am consistently booked, have raised my rates in the last year, and continue to get positive feedback.   And if you notice who is reviewing me, it’s mostly gentlemen in the DMV area.  It sure isn’t anyone in Philly, LOL.  (maybe it has something to do with my anti-Philly website)  Also, there is a lot of money in the area.  It isn’t cheap to live in the area so someone is making good money.  There are plenty of really good men who are looking for a wonderful experience and I don’t see why a provider can’t tap into that with due diligence.  I think there are many of us who do very well here.

I agree with Rayen about   emails  being better means of connection .. and that  here are many of us ladies who do very well  in DC

Normally  we women come there by booking ahead by locals or some visitors  able to book ahead  and yes .. DC  it is  national capital and one of the well known in the  wold city so there are many nice intelligent males as well

But  it is soo true when you just entering this hobby in DC ( no matter if you male hobbyists  or provider ) you be approached  I would say - by criminals !!!

 and I guarantee - such seating are on this boards as well .. and reading  all what we are talking about

I am adult woman  not as young naive girl..yet pimps still now calling me
 when I put add that  come with saw.. strange .. offers and  all that is just  just spooky  sometime ..

I never post the  phone any more  and see only those who donate above  300 it keep all freaks away.

I think with  males in hobby you also have to  see only  high end escorts to avoid troubles.. if care about safety health not talking about fan.

I was criticized a lot here   to the point of  REAL rude and offensive messages  because once I  replied on one posting "  if  women  who charge 1000 are better then 300" I said  with humor I do not know about women  - I am not male - can not judge - but  I do know about men - those who donate such way  better lovers and it is triggered all outrage toward to me.
But I will keep it as I said:) to avoid troubles and have fan  that means I would see  only real gentleman for real dates .. fantasy and date  with intimacy.. I be your Russian Fire bird .. it is only have  a lot of light but not burning ::)
so pm me if want to know more about my own experiences in DC  it is controversial

In fact  I do come to DC monthly as well  thanks to my  few lovers.. looking  always to add my such nice men.

And  for those gentlemen who agreed on this initial post( about DC being  not to classy market) so if you
was able to come up with such conclusion then you are very able  to find and other kind of women
it is First step  ha ha ha .. for finding real ultimate fan- not to see those who are on the level if satisfaction basic needs - ( as on Maslow Hierarchy - same here)
or men who hiring 300 women .. or women who able do that for 300  it is just all about basic needs .. who is not familiar with Hierarchy .of needs .. please review .. and then you would understand why I said those  those whop are not on the level of basic needs  are better..lovers .. and you and we  women :)  it  applies to all genders.:)) kissess

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...to this little subculture (about 2 years), I'm at a point where I know what I want from my experiences. Initially, my testosterone-driven pursuits were the 20 something girls. This lasted for 2 or 3 visits as I realized that I, at then age 48, had nothing to talk with them about between our physical activities. And, this dialogue is something that I have come to really enjoy. Then I met a couple mid to late 30 year olds and early to mid 40 year olds and found that I truly enjoyed their maturity, life experiences, self-esteem, etc. Additionally, my preference is for 3 to 4 hour appointments or longer. Since at age 50 I can't fill 240 minutes with cardio level activity, the ability to share some fresh fruit, sandwiches, and talk about life while giving or receiving a massage is essential. Now, I fully realize that not many guys want this level of connection, and that is fine. But for me and what I want, the DC-NOVA market offers more than enough opportunities to spend time with beautiful, articulate, educated women.

Since this area is dominated by politicians who are always trying to screw each other and are always trying t o get someone else's money that paradigm might sully this field as well.

There are very few "natives", and a lot of Type A personalities...in my limited experience, DC Backpage has declined precipitously in the last year or so; more so, IMHO, because of LE issues than actual environmental concerns- and LE issues will become even more apparent, as the National Harbor project gets into full swing, and Vice squads get a budget line- but yeah, unless you're looking for hoodrats or trannies (which I'm not), BP is a wasteland, these days...fake pics and indifference abound

Posted By: _blender_

Most of my activity has been in the Baltimore/Washington area.  I have less experience in other markets.
Speaking with one of my repeat providers last night we spent time talking about how DC fares compared to other US cities.

I also have been talking online with providers in other cities and I am hearing a recurring theme.  DC is a low class/low end market for providers and hobbyists.  My initial investigation leads me to believe that this might be true.  There are many nice ladies in other parts of the country who visit the east coast, but intentionally skip DC for various reasons.

I personally am making efforts to become a better hobbyist, hopefully I will make some sort of progress.  I know that I am personally not without flaws (i.e. I accept some of the blame).

A question for providers:
Are you real GFE material, do you take pride in your craft?  Is DC a city of gentlemen and courtesans?  Or is DC more similar to a seedy low class environment full of cheap experiences, violence, rip-offs and low expectations?  

On both sides!  I look forward to seeing my regulars and I enjoy meeting new ones...as I assume they feel the same way about me!  If you really truly offer great service great clients will follow.  I am all about trust and honesty ( I know most of you are thinking yeah right) but ask my reviewers....and because I offer a real experience, meaning I do my best to get to know who I'm with and give them a chance to get to know me, we all have a great time!  Of course with obvious discretion!  If you want low end you can find it...in any city...but if you want a great higher end experience those are everywhere to...you just need to look, there are amazing intelegent women who offer great services in this industry... I promise!

I and many other men in DMV appreciate greatly the fantastic ladies that both visit and that live here.  
We are willing to pay a little extra for a ladies time, to enjoy a beautiful 19-39 year old for as long as we like or can afford.  

These nice ladies are available every day of every week here.
If there weren't narrow minded or cheap guys,
I would never get to see my favorites as they would be too busy.  LOL

Yes, not every 10 comes to DC, but I can enjoy a 9/9 everyday I want.
DC / BALT is great, the ladies just need to screen out the sh*ts and check the envelopes.

HAPPY TIMES AHEAD !     LIFE IS GOOD.

With the benefit of only about 3 years hobbying locally, the impression I get is that DC is a very solid market for most mid to mid-high level providers but 600+/hr providers probably do a bit better in other spots.   My theory there is that, while DC is wealthy overall, the wealth is distributed more evenly than in say NYC or Palm Beach.  Hence there are more people willing to pay top dollar in those other wealthy markets.  Now, it will be interesting to see if DC continues to be as attractive in the coming years as federal cutbacks are likely to hit is hard, especially in NoVa.

I have recently moved to the area from the West Coast, and in *my* experience the gentlemen have been over whelmingly wonderful and classy andhave treated me with amazing care!!! I am only speaking for myself,and I am extrmely particular about who I see..and I haven't met any other ladies yet..but I am loving it here!:)

Posted By: _blender_

Most of my activity has been in the Baltimore/Washington area.  I have less experience in other markets.
Speaking with one of my repeat providers last night we spent time talking about how DC fares compared to other US cities.

I also have been talking online with providers in other cities and I am hearing a recurring theme.  DC is a low class/low end market for providers and hobbyists.  My initial investigation leads me to believe that this might be true.  There are many nice ladies in other parts of the country who visit the east coast, but intentionally skip DC for various reasons.

I personally am making efforts to become a better hobbyist, hopefully I will make some sort of progress.  I know that I am personally not without flaws (i.e. I accept some of the blame).

A question for providers:
Are you real GFE material, do you take pride in your craft?  Is DC a city of gentlemen and courtesans?  Or is DC more similar to a seedy low class environment full of cheap experiences, violence, rip-offs and low expectations?  

I am from the DC/NOVA area and it is DEFINITELY NOT a low class, seedy market. It might be if you are sticking to BP and dealing with all of the problems that BP comes with. DC is full of wonderful, sexy, well reviewed ladies to see and many wonderful clients. For the past two years I was in Philadelphia Pa and it is pretty much equal to DC in my opinion.

             I am currently in the Louisville Ky area and it is NOT equal at all to the east coast. There are a FEW reputable GFE providers to see, and it is mostly mid-level or lower level girls running around. I have done a lot of research and talked with men of the area and they have told me it is filled with girls that don't understand customer service, and can barely handle their business the right way.  The rates are generally lower then mine but I hold strong and have not lowered mine and business has been pretty good for me. It is very common here for guys to get stood up, canceled at the last minute on, or to be rushed out the door.

I notice DC is one of the biggest touring stops for girls so they must keep coming back for a reason, right? Like every big city there is high class, low class, & everywhere in between. I love it here, I have great gents Ive met. Im very thankful for the gents Ive seen here(either once or my regulars) & do very well here. Does that mean Im seedy? Am I low class because I do well in this "low class/low end market"?


Of course Tamsen, you are in a special league.  You are a true gem, and I am glad to hear your positive response.

I was just trying to feel out this topic, after a few visits to other east coast cities I had a moment of reflection, and was feeling down on DC.  Of course it is hard to get a full picture with my limited experience, but I did come away feeling that options in cities up north seemed to be at least twice as nice as experiences in the DC area.

And speaking to MANY ladies up north and out west, they claim they would not entertain DC as a visiting option.
Particularly that DC men are cheap and rude, and as a hobbyist I could agree having spoken to many other hobbyists, that DC men are generally disrespectful (meaning that if I was a lady I would not want to have appointments with them).
After hearing that about 5 times from very impressive ladies I put 2 and 2 together and started feeling as though I was missing out in a wasteland of lower end options..

* If you are curious to who these ladies are I will gladly share their stage names with you in PM (if you were curious)..

...many other special ladies here. Look if you had a bad time here, Im sorry. Dont blame the city tho.
I really dont care who they are. Life is 2 short 2 do the whole she said, he said, gossip, whisper, rabble, rabble. I will say this tho..... I find it "low-class" of a girl 2 vent & bitch about the hobby to a client. You dont come 2 us 2 hear us bitch & whine about our problems. You come to us to escape the realities of everyday life. You come to us to be propelled through any & all avenues of ecstacy that may entice you. You want to be shot at lightening speed out of ths world and into a carnal nirvana that lingers even after you have left us and gone back into the world. You dont come to us to hear us bitch about anything. If anything we are here 2 listen 2 you bitch.


..So the opportunities for that are low.

If all providers were like you this thread would have never been written.  Too bad there are only about 5 truly professional ladies based in the region (my estimate).  You being one of them.

Sorry if it sounds raw.

If the touring schedules end, then I guess we are all up shits creek..
And might I say it *gasp*, we might have to start considering our notoriously horrible civilian options again..
:-)

I've traveled to all major cities in this country and have hobbied in most.  Overall, DC fluctuates in my top 3 locations.  My measurements are in the following three catigories.  NOTE: Experience is a major factor (I've been a participant for 12 + years) so once you learn where, when and how to stay away from "low-class...ladies; locations; environments; etc" then one is alomst guaranteed at least a minimally good time.  It may not be a ATF experience but they all will be worth the investment.  I typically stick with rated, reviewed, and backchannel/UTR ladies.

- Professionalism of providers - Miami comes close to DC but DC is #1.  

- Attractiveness of providers - Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  So for me, Miami and San Fran top the list.  DC takes 3rd.  Attractiveness also includes personality and demeanor.  If the lady is a 10 physically but has a hood rat personality then it does not count.  LOL!

- Time Managment - If the provider has the ability to make an hour seem two or two seem like three she makes it to my ATF list.  I know, this is not really a locale specific thing but its between the DC and Miami ladies who do this best.

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