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I was thinking the same thing!confused_smile
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If your only willing to shell out $60-$100, your looking for major problems to follow. Save up your damn lunch money or find an alternative hobby!

Posted By: seduceurwife
$60-$100?  They should have been arrested for being cheap asses.

First that bust where they lured the hobbyists to a hotel bar and now this..

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/decoy-used-to-nab-donoher-7decoy-used-to-nab-donoher-7-others-charged-with-seeking-prostitution-1324543.html

They actually rented an apartment -I would have called someone crazy to have suggected such a thing.

Well at least residents are sooooooo much SAFER now aren't they??? Any citizen who had their car broken into,was assualted or robbed on the street, etc, during the time that resources were dedicated to this can rest easy knowing the police were busy with other things like this.

Don't want to cause any panic but thought I would pass it along after seeing it on another board.

Be careful out there.

What an absolute shame! I hate to sound repetitive on this subject, but ladies and gentleman you better screen. Gentlemen- If you find a lady you're interested in visiting on Backpage, plug her into TER and see if she has reviews. How many reviews? Check out the reviewers...how many reviews have they written? Ladies, you know what to do and if you don't, you better hit the provider board and start asking some questions! I for one would be happy to assist you, in keeping yourself safe.

This isn't the first time I've heard of LE setting up an incall at an apartment. Be very cautious and screen...screen...screen!

Paris Bouvier

I totally agree, we need to screen screen screen!

And gents be sure to check her out as well as paris said, it will save you alot of headaches in the long run.

$60-$100?  They should have been arrested for being cheap asses.

If your only willing to shell out $60-$100, your looking for major problems to follow. Save up your damn lunch money or find an alternative hobby!

Posted By: seduceurwife
$60-$100?  They should have been arrested for being cheap asses.

I had an amusing experience where a hobbyist attempted to start a flame war with me after I left a positive review for a friend on the rate I paid.  I did not take the bait, but it made me wonder why one would expect a meaningful experience for anything less than $250.00 / hr.  Your definition of meaningful will vary of course but consider the following - assume a potential friend requests this consideration (250K / Hr. – in the spirit of full disclosure this figure is a screening method of mine, anything less will not even be considered).  She (or he, must be fair!) will gross 130K. Year assuming (h)she averages 10 hours of "stage" time per week.  Wow you may say, this is one hell of an income.  But take into consideration overhead in terms of the following.

(1)  This assumes 10 hours, per week - no vacations, holidays, sick time, etc....
(2)  Those 10 hours of "stage” time require at least 3x in terms of prep., exercise, proper diet, physicals, shopping for the things that you like, keeping up appearances, etc..
(4)  Speaking of keeping up appearances, remember the overhead, clothing, in-call maint if their place, hotel expenses, T&E, hair, makeup, the list can go on in order to meet your expectations of a GFE
(5)  I expect my friends to have lives, perhaps children, insurance, perhaps the odd vacation or two.
(6)  The average time of career will be short for many of our friends - it cannot be helped this is a somewhat superficial hobby, regardless of how kind, generous, and overall good eggs we hobbyists say (and I expect are) we are.  Regardless, some may wish to raise a family, perhaps enter into a LTR – this is far from an open-minded society we live in, and careers will be abbreviated.
(7)  The percentage of time wasted dealing with morons (NC/NS, the random perv, screening, etc...)
(8)  Website, staffing is using an assistant, advertising (I would prefer not to meet a friend only listed on BP) etc…

So to place this in perspective, assume you gross 130K / Year in your typical civy gig.  You're lucky if benefits, retirement, etc.. run you 35% or less per year.  You do not have the additional overhead to consider, the random adjustments you make to your personal life to accommodate schedules, thinking what happens when looks fade, on it goes....  Doing a quick napkin business plan I expect expenses to run 60% of that figure, 42K / year is not something I would crow about, indeed based on the risk our friends take into consideration.

I would expect any friend I choose to spend time with sits down and is honest with what I outlined, assuming she (and I am not being gender neutral as it relates to me – I’m such a nerd) has, provides her considerations accordingly, I am more than happy to spend time with someone that is that serious about their life.  I do not consider this crass, it is simply reasonable economics.

Mauddib2- you are spot on!

Just like with any other business, ladies MUST have a business plan. Seriously, there's no room for complacency in this department ladies. Our time, as companions, is limited...as mentioned by the poster. We will only stay young and beautiful for a brief time. You must have a business plan AND an exit strategy. I developed a business plan and budget immediately after initiating companionship. With any business, you can speculate your earnings based on the trend of the previous months and year(s). Now, subtract your net operating expenses and adjust where necessary, based on your income. If you find that your below budget, it's time to pep it up. Tour if possible, this will boost your income drastically. In addition or in lieu of touring, create new marketing/advertising strategies and get some new photos taken. You would be surprised how this will increase your traffic flow.

Currently I'm writing a book, geared toward companions. I'm discussing every angle imaginable and giving some very helpful hints to maximize your business. Once I've finished it and it's ready for publishing, I'll definitely let you know. I would urge every companion to read it, some things might seem repetitious to you. However, I'm confident that you'll take away some very positive perspectives.

Paris Bouvier

I didn't read the whole article until after I posted the link, I almost posted a comment afterwards about the rate too. It made me glad I have high standards and am not interested in "bargain basement" hobbying, it would have kept me out of trouble there. I guess you never really can be sure, I have learned that lately with the two busts where they went after hobbyists (something I thought rarely happened) but if the LE staging a bust is asking $250 to $300 or more then they will probably all be sitting in a room somewhere twittling thier fingers.

Through my reading of a few different boards online I have come to believe that there are a glut of hobbyists in the area that are basically looking for a warm female body who belongs to a woman that will do practically anything for the lowest rate. There is a particular board where the spirit is prevalent, anything over $150 is viewed as insane by these guys. The woman they trumpet as 8-10 scale providers,the ones with rave reviews, are always that rate or lower and they are, I don't know, just rough looking. I mean I will admit my standards are probably a bit too picky, but I just could never imagine seeing many of these women, no matter how low the rate was.

I once observed an argument on the cheapy extrodinaire board that just took the cake. Two posters were in an argument about rates. Poster A was accusing Poster B of paying way too much to see a provider. Poster B asserted that Poster A was a cheapskate. Wanna know how many low end hobbyists there are here, Poster B, the "high roller" was at $160 an hour for a recent date and Poster a was at $80 an hour.

And the funniest thing about it all is that the bargain shoppers think they are entitled to top notch service with the women they meet. They complain about a lack of good service for the meager price - evidently none of them are familiar with the addage, you get what you pay for.

I can imagine how many calls higher class providers get from these people, I am sure they are constantly asked to accept a lower than advertised rate by these idiots.

Personally if an advertised rate is lower than $200 (and that is minumum) I would automatically know without looking at pictures or wording in a ad that the girl is either one not up to my standards of appearance or two is not FS or 3 is a rob or rip off.

This glut of guys who aren't willing or able to pay anything over $150 an hour and the local airport here being one that has high rates I think are the two factors that make this region (Cincy,Dayton) so barren as far as this hobby. I don't know if other parts of the country are the same way to a point, but this region has not enough guys who value quality over quantity. Most of the guys on this board and TER in general are an exception to this.

You r so right on...
Funny story...guy calls me trys to talk me down on price, I say goodbye. He calls next week, tells me 2 different providers that he talked down to $80. both times he went out & got robbed, the first he layed the money down & bf came out of bathroom w/ball bat. 2nd time same thing but he said he had a police friend waiting in his car so he got his money back.....
1st thing I told him since he had police friend that probably would accompany him I really didn't want him around. 2nd thing since he hadn't learned his lesson & was still trying to talk me down (all the way down to $80) I just can't be around total idiots (I'm kinda blatantly rude) he deserves what he gets for that price.
There's a popular site I won't go on at all, I signed up put an ad to say hello (wasn't advertising a price or service just saying hello) & xmas night the very first night of my hello, I got a nice threat from one of their members sending me a text (they refused to talk had many excuses) & decided if I refused to meet them & do all the things they wanted me to do for some cheap price they threw out there (my price was just a few bucks tooo much cuz I was considering to meet them but they really needed to talk to me first not just text until they walk through my door) & make it clear they would destroy my reputation & make sure none of the guys on that site would see me...... Told them I don't care, I contacted the mod had her take down anything to do with my name immediately (which she did), I let her know I had it on text (she did nothing to him), & before I even knew it I got some nasty emails & some shitty phone calls from the guys he did contact, so a big thanks to him....but I let him know thank you it was my choice to be allllllll alone on xmas day all day, but it was his actions of why he was allll alone on xmas day & probably everyday there after.....I know I'm a %$#@ but most who can fake a respectable demeanor for an hour have a really great time....I never promise to please everybody, cuz it just won't happen some aren't willing to just have a good time.....
But I also found on that site a long message where the guy is telling everyone to stick together & talk us all down & had steps of how to do it.....for 2weeks straight after that posting, I think I ended up seeing maybe 1 guy every other day (my regulars of course).....

What a waste of taxpayer dollars.  Murder, assault, break-ins and drugs run rampant and they waste their resources on this.

Posted By: tallslim26
First that bust where they lured the hobbyists to a hotel bar and now this..

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/decoy-used-to-nab-donoher-7decoy-used-to-nab-donoher-7-others-charged-with-seeking-prostitution-1324543.html

They actually rented an apartment -I would have called someone crazy to have suggected such a thing.

Well at least residents are sooooooo much SAFER now aren't they??? Any citizen who had their car broken into,was assualted or robbed on the street, etc, during the time that resources were dedicated to this can rest easy knowing the police were busy with other things like this.

Don't want to cause any panic but thought I would pass it along after seeing it on another board.

Be careful out there.

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