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Re: Ditto
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" We support sending encrypted communication to non-ProtonMail users via symmetric encryption. When you send an encrypted message to a non-ProtonMail user, they receive a link which loads the encrypted message onto their browser, which they can decrypt using a passphrase that you have shared with them. You can also send unencrypted messages to Gmail, Yahoo, Outlook and others, just like regular email. "

Posted By: MissErinBlack
Re: Ditto
Just so y'all know- Protonmail encryption only works if both parties are using encrypted email services. That's super rare in my experience.  
   
 I've been using protonmail for 3 months now, paid and all, and can honestly say I can't stand it. It doesn't parse out emails correctly, the spam filter is literally the worst, and the search function takes so long that it's easier to scroll through emails on my own.  
   
 I signed up for it because I wanted my clients to feel safer about messaging me- come to find out, most clients don't use encrypted email services.

I've maintained a "private" email address on Veizon, but now Verizon has decided to get out of the email business. Any suggestions for a discrete email service that I can access through Outlook? Thanks

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They are reading emails now for certain keywords.

Movie came out in 1998... Probably filmed in 1997. Keyword scanning is nothing new. I wasn't even a teenager yet so it all seemed very plausible.  

By the time Napster came out in 1999 I had a built in response stuck in my head that I owned the CDs & it was in storage...It's just a backup, lol. I would just go buy the CD if the man came knocking.

Posted By: wrps07
They are reading emails now for certain keywords.

It's free, but doesn't have the bells & whistles that gmail has.

Anonymous and easy to use.

I moved to protonmail and always suggest that clients move there as well. In addition, the ability to encrypt emails with passwords is wonderful.

LJ

Just so y'all know- Protonmail encryption only works if both parties are using encrypted email services. That's super rare in my experience.

I've been using protonmail for 3 months now, paid and all, and can honestly say I can't stand it. It doesn't parse out emails correctly, the spam filter is literally the worst, and the search function takes so long that it's easier to scroll through emails on my own.

I signed up for it because I wanted my clients to feel safer about messaging me- come to find out, most clients don't use encrypted email services.

" We support sending encrypted communication to non-ProtonMail users via symmetric encryption. When you send an encrypted message to a non-ProtonMail user, they receive a link which loads the encrypted message onto their browser, which they can decrypt using a passphrase that you have shared with them. You can also send unencrypted messages to Gmail, Yahoo, Outlook and others, just like regular email. "

Posted By: MissErinBlack
Re: Ditto
Just so y'all know- Protonmail encryption only works if both parties are using encrypted email services. That's super rare in my experience.  
   
 I've been using protonmail for 3 months now, paid and all, and can honestly say I can't stand it. It doesn't parse out emails correctly, the spam filter is literally the worst, and the search function takes so long that it's easier to scroll through emails on my own.  
   
 I signed up for it because I wanted my clients to feel safer about messaging me- come to find out, most clients don't use encrypted email services.

Gmail/yahoo/hotmail/any other non-encrypted service can't generate a key to return encrypted emails to me. This is still only one-sided encryption, unless a gmail user, for instance, is using something like Virtru (which also has it's limitations). So, sure- I can send an encrypted email to a client, but I can't receive an encrypted email from a client unless they're using an encryption service.  Protonmail to Gmail, you can generate a key. Gmail to protonmail, you can't.  

Encrypted emails also cannot be indexed, which makes searching for an email impossible. If your sending email from a prontonmail account to another protonmail account, the encryption is automatic and there's no need for a key.  

Google also uses TLS encryption, which means that while the email is in transit, it's contents can't be intercepted. Unfortunately, not all email services utilize TLS, and you can take a look at this site to see who does and who doesnt. This list might be outdated, but it gives a general idea.

https://luxsci.com/blog/who-does-not-support-smtp-tls-for-secure-inbound-email-delivery.html

In almost 5 years, I've never received an encrypted email from a client, and i'd bet that 98% of the emails i've received in almost 5 years have been from email services that utilize TLS.  So, while the email is in transit, no one can read it. Now, if someone were to access my inbox, that's a different story. But considering you can set up Gmail to require a 2-step authorization process, you'd know immediately if someone were attempting to get into your inbox.  

Gmail is pretty up to date and savvy concerning email safety, but systems aren't perfect. Here's a blog post with a lot of links about security practices via Gmail. https://blog.google/products/gmail/making-email-safer-for-you-posted-by/

So, in conclusion, in order for all messages to be completely and totally encrypted for both users, both users need to be using an email service that supports end-user encryption.  

But Google can read your emails...End to end they lose  money cause they can't target ads. If it's a LE concern they will simply go to Google with a warrant. Now if you are being targeted by Russia then TLS matters.  

Biggest concern is LE thinking trafficking & pimping is occurring which is way beyond the misdemeanor of the hobby....so you want end to end so you are less likely to deal with phony charges.  

That being said..... WhatsApp & iMessage are end to end. Maybe use those common apps for communication. Keep it no details in email... Once verified use a secure messenger.

Posted By: MissErinBlack
Re: Right- but the encryption is still only one-sided.
Gmail/yahoo/hotmail/any other non-encrypted service can't generate a key to return encrypted emails to me. This is still only one-sided encryption, unless a gmail user, for instance, is using something like Virtru (which also has it's limitations). So, sure- I can send an encrypted email to a client, but I can't receive an encrypted email from a client unless they're using an encryption service.  Protonmail to Gmail, you can generate a key. Gmail to protonmail, you can't.  
   
 Encrypted emails also cannot be indexed, which makes searching for an email impossible. If your sending email from a prontonmail account to another protonmail account, the encryption is automatic and there's no need for a key.  
   
 Google also uses TLS encryption, which means that while the email is in transit, it's contents can't be intercepted. Unfortunately, not all email services utilize TLS, and you can take a look at this site to see who does and who doesnt. This list might be outdated, but it gives a general idea.  
   
 https://luxsci.com/blog/who-does-not-support-smtp-tls-for-secure-inbound-email-delivery.html  
   
 In almost 5 years, I've never received an encrypted email from a client, and i'd bet that 98% of the emails i've received in almost 5 years have been from email services that utilize TLS.  So, while the email is in transit, no one can read it. Now, if someone were to access my inbox, that's a different story. But considering you can set up Gmail to require a 2-step authorization process, you'd know immediately if someone were attempting to get into your inbox.  
   
 Gmail is pretty up to date and savvy concerning email safety, but systems aren't perfect. Here's a blog post with a lot of links about security practices via Gmail. https://blog.google/products/gmail/making-email-safer-for-you-posted-by/  
   
 So, in conclusion, in order for all messages to be completely and totally encrypted for both users, both users need to be using an email service that supports end-user encryption.  

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