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I like AME. Jennifer's sucks. They banned me a while ago because I asked a few questions about a girl I wanted to make an appt with for $350 and they told me I should just make an appt based on the pix and not waste their time and I responded by saying I though for $350 I should be able to ask a few questions. Boom, an onslaught of abuse by them and banned. After years and thousand of dollars as a loyal client, and several great reviews of their girls. And never a bad review when I had a bad experience (I never give a bad review -- why make it harder on the girl?). So fuckem. Go to AME or just do br at Secrets.

These are two really great agencies in the area that consistently have great lineups. I'm wondering if there are any more that are similar in that they display American models usually in their twenties. Any advice?

whodat3715 reads

Both suck. Do a little searching on this board, AME has been known to publicly shame and blackball guys who write honest reviews on their providers. JM engages in the same type of behavior, on top of that has absolutely horrible customer service, and the provider service bar is very low (just look at reviews for proof).  

There are MUCH MUCH better agencies in the area.

Goodbet608 reads

Of course you are correct about the agencies mentioned. Both have a mixed history of satisfactory service and horrible customer relations.

But  ( respectfully ) why don't you share with him those Much Much better agencies you seem to know about ?

Would you want to throw down some names for the other agencies you've mentioned? That was the point of my post.

Posted By: whodat3
Both suck. Do a little searching on this board, AME has been known to publicly shame and blackball guys who write honest reviews on their providers. JM engages in the same type of behavior, on top of that has absolutely horrible customer service, and the provider service bar is very low (just look at reviews for proof).  
   
 There are MUCH MUCH better agencies in the area.
Always wondered about JM. The women look great, guess I'll stay indy.

I read the copy and have had only success with AMC -.
With Jennifer I have been disappointed but it is based on my expectations - each model performed as advertised.

Which are those better agencies.  

Whole bunch of 1st reviews even though someone says they met with a gal before.  

Interesting.  

https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=323082

Nobody that is trashing these places is going to post up what agencies they DO prefer?  

Sounds more like competitors throwing folks under the bus if that's the case.  

whodat3345 reads

And learn by due diligence and trail and error like the rest of us? It's part of the game!

Why are you even posting in this thread if you have nothing to contribute? You realize that the very asking of the question is research itself? Cut the elitist crap and help us out.

Really, that's not what this site is about. If FU go find out for yourself is your attitude why are you even here. Questions of experienced peers is research.  

First I wouldn't say AME and JM are horrible. I work with them often primarily because they often can accommodate my last minute appointment requests. Most experiences for me have been solid. There have also been a few misses. I have some great Indy friends but some times the scenery change and instant gratification work as well. Flawless, Private Liaison, Matchless BC, have all treated me well. XO companions is currently on my radar.

Red Tease doesn't disappoint, although talking to their girls can be tough if you don't remember your HS Spanish.

Just scheduled a last minute appointment with her. Incredible athletic body. Super sweet, smart, and interesting. She is tall at about 5'10". I would certainly recommend.

Themiamidolls.com is a great agency. Redtease.me too

SketchySituation365 reads

I haven't tried Jennifer's Models yet.  What was screening like?  Painless?  How was your experience?  The pics always look good for agencies.  

Screening is reasonable and expected. Their models have taken a bit of a nosedive in the past few months. Barely any of them speak English anymore. And they keep bringing in more foreign models that only understand like ten English words. (For me, that's sort of a huge turn-off, as you can tell by my tone.)

Just to reiterate.. for those "fine" individuals that feel like they are being mistreated.  Let me remind you the reasons why:

1. You have poor hygiene
2. You are nosey and make our models uncomfortable
3. You overstay.
4. You cancel many times.
5. You retaliate when a model does not do what you want her to do (typically something unsafe).  

For those clients that have used us over the years, thank you.  You are fine gentlemen.  For those of you who who choose to hide behind an alias and talk a bunch of non-sense, see reasons 1 through 5, so you understand why you are being treated like the turd that you are.  

Folks - we talk to each other.... all agencies.....rest assured the good and bad clients are highlighted.   Behave and be respectful and you will be fine...

This is a fantasy and a game..treat it as such...and you will enjoy this hobby much much more...

This is my first and last response on this specific thread....

balller291 reads

We know what you don't like.  Please help all of us be better!

Thanks

Its a shame TER will not allow me post the countless messages I get from former clients that insult, threaten and want to disrespect the girls I work with.  

So I will continue to ban bad behaviors, period.  

For those respectful gentlemen that use my service, I thank you and will continue to provide my services to you.

Hi Jennifer: You seem to be a little bit confused about exactly what's being talked about here. Either that, or you haven't actually bothered reading the thread. Let me sum up the general grievances:

1. Your models could be treated better by the employer. They often must accommodate large volumes of clients with little time to rest. This drains them physically and emotionally. This also has the (not as important) side effect of worsening the ultimate customer experience.

2. Your models can rarely speak actual English.

3. Your photo representations of your models are often highly brushed up and outdated to the point where there's little similarity between the photos and the real life models themselves. This is lying to your customers.

4. Your models' descriptions are also fake, with the represented age sometimes off by ~10 years. (As a safe bet, I usually add 5-10 years to whatever age is posted on the website... but seriously, I should have to do that?) This is also lying to your customers.

5. Your customer service is confrontational, and your image is unprofessional. You're putting people on blast over email, trying to discredit clients and models that pissed you off, and otherwise airing drama that clients really don't care to hear about.

Please don't take these as insults but rather as places you can improve. Thanks for reading.

I used to be a regular at JM but not so much anymore. I've met some ATF's there, but also a few duds. The photos are heavily glammed, so buyer beware. The "service level" tends to be consistent, but too often the appt time ends up delayed. I mainly got tired that the same hotel was being used, and I got a little paranoid about that.

Agreed. Jennifer's Models used to be great. The talent they attract nowadays is older, less attractive, and less capable of basic English.

The age they present for each model tends to be bait-and-switch. It's a common strategy among agencies and independents, but it's done more egregiously so for JM's models. There have definitely been several times where the listed age of the model has been off by ~10 years. You're also right about the glammed up photos. My jaw has dropped a few times not at the attractiveness of the model but how completely off the photos were. Not sure how this is acceptable: To outright trick your customers with complete (not slight) misinformation into using your services?

JM seems to be okay for short notice appointments, but holy crap has the agency fallen off a cliff in the past year. Hope they're making resolutions to try and improve.

anonymous_1234167 reads

I'm not aware of any other agencies that consistently provide good looking, english-speaking girls. most other agencies are k-girls (little/no english) or russians (again, english is usually limited).

try p411? plenty of english-speaking indys out there.

SketchySituation254 reads

Based on my personal experience Allure, Matchless, and Flawless are all great agencies.  There are many great agencies in the DC area.  And they do an excellent job accommodating same day requests.  

As for the ones you're inquiring about I don't know and don't have any history AND to be clear I'm not insinuating that any of the below applies to them.

However, in general I've found agencies to be misleading and they don't treat the women who employ them very well, the women are usually young, desperately need money in  short period of time or are in some sort of transition in their life so they don't stick around long.  If you find a woman at an agency you like, she'll probably be gone after a short period of time.  Also, many of them employ exclusively foreign women which is always a red flag for nefarious activity.

I've met women who've worked for or started with an agency and they always said that with a little attention to detail, they were much more successful on their own than they ever were working for an agency.  I have no way or really knowing that.

There were a couple agencies in the past run by ex-providers in the DC area that were reputable, but they only lasted a couple of years before they either closed the agency or retired the business.

If you like the allure of the unknown, then good luck.  I can't tell you how many times as a young man I was burned.  (Bait and switch, money was stolen or it was just a lousy experience.)

Bottom line: I found planning ahead, doing your own research (P411) and surfing sites like this is the best way to go.  Just my .02...and I realize my .02 was not asked for.  :-)

SketchySituation221 reads

Yes, I was routinely burned by agencies years ago as well.  But that was years ago.  Before the internet of things took full force and before I was aware of sites like TER.  Within the past few years, I have not been burned  by an agency once.  In fact, I think that most of the agencies in the DC area do a pretty good job with quality control and genuinely care that I had a good experience.  More than 50% of the time, after the appointment is over I receive a text message ensuring that my expectations were met or exceeded.  I never seem to get that with independents.  Objectively, many of the girls that work for agencies are younger and more attractive than many of the independents at the same or even higher price points.  On the other hand, many of the independents understand how the game is played much better and therefore are better at foreplay, seduction, offering words of encouragement, and creating illusions.  I wouldn't knock the agencies.  Many of them are very good.  And almost all of the agencies are much better at accommodating same day requests.      

I just recently talked to a visitor to one of those agencies who had a terrible experience. She talked about being completely disrespected and made to do things she was uncomfortable with, so much so that she left after one day.

So take that anecdote as you will.

I also worked for an agency for 2 days and had the same experience. They were rude, inconsiderate, put me in uncomfortable situations...

I'm obviously biased.

xo

Sorry to hear your experience sucked. Hope these agencies are reading and resolve to treat their models and customers better. Surely, agencies don't want to piss off either group, right? This is a risky enough business as it is, lol.

DaRegularJoe270 reads

I've used them in the recent past - AME, Jennifers, Matchless etc. etc.

Some have been good, some do leave room room improvement and in my opinion even the good ones occasionally drop the ball.

However, one point that I'd like to make is the one thing that the agencies have in their control is how they treat clients, they cannot control service etc. Blaming clients for hygiene etc seems such a cliche. Cannot be used for all occasions. At some point agencies also need to accept that customer service at some of the agencies gets confrontational.

I use them because it enables me to set up appt at short notice, not much homework needed to do as much research, just look at recent reviews and that's it.

I have used AME for years and I think Jaimee does a great job.  I use an agency for convenience.  I can call at the last minute and be accommodated, and at his price point, use the service often.  The girls are generally "as advertised" and I have never had an issue. I also spend $1000 for top shelf independent girls, but you have to be vetted every time, it is a slower process and it requires more time.  They are two different experiences, and I don't get all the haters.

I highly recommend bestknownsecrets, they are a solid agency who offers great customer service.  My experience with their girls has been top notch.

I don't often use agencies but sometimes things fall through at the last minute. When that happens I go to AME. I have only used them three times but never have been disappointed. I have used two other agencies and while the girls looked as advertised they acted like they were being trafficked and not enjoying life much. Jaimee's girls on the other hand were always happy and made me feel like I was their best boy friend just returning from a 90 day tour on a nuclear submarine. He must be treating them right.

I used JM, AME and MiamiDolls in the past (and then there's the k-girl book).

Are those agencies perfect? obviously not. Do they provide what they advertise on an acceptably high number of occasions? I would say they do. Of course, every experience may be different. Some don't live up to expectations.  In spite of this, I think some of the comments I read here are unfair. And I say this even as I recall some interactions with Jen in which he or she was being annoying or even offensive without reason.
But one has to put things in perspective, gibe credit where credit is due. I appreciate the fact that young latinas are great to play with, and agencies makes sure that they are trusted too...and if I have to brush up on my spanish to communicate with them, so be it.

Advantage is certainly once you are screened you are now into the chance to last minute and less hassle book someone.  I certainly enjoy their pics and have heard wonderful things from gents who love using them.   Depending on your hobby palate, that can be very appealing to what I call 'samplers.'   They are the gents who prefer to see someone once or maybe twice and move on frequently to the new sensation of a fresh experience.  Many of these men have respectful interactions but prefer less personal attachment...I would assume that helps to get over the language and culture barriers.   For the provider, she skips the advertising/ screening and at times is not even the person you communicate with which allows her more time to be pretty and ready for you.  

Disadvantages so I am told by ladies who have been registered currently and in the past are the volume of friends that they are expected to see is significant.  They seem to have little control over that so at times are providing in an overwhelmed and tired state physically and emotionally.  Depending on the policies of the agency, she may not have the flexibility to take time for herself to refresh or handle personal issues that arise.   From the gent perspective, it can be dissetling to be part of the volume with that provider but also the line through the door over the time she has been booked there.   Sometimes even more than one lady entertains in one room.  These are things that would bother me personally.   Plus yes, I have heard that many ladies who are foreign born without great language skills utilize them so this can be an issue for gents who enjoy stimulating conversation and a sense of humor mixed with sensuality.  

Independents may take more time, but when you arrive, you can rest assure that you are desired and personally chosen from a usually lower volume provider.  We can be the pick of a sampler style hobbiest OR the gent who prefers a more intimate relationship.  

Whatever you pick, certainly use respectful form and there is no need to worry about having a negative history in general.  This is about fun and enhancing your day, folks!

gradeinflation274 reads

Here is another objective view.  Have used both multiple times and have some good experiences as well as some bad ones.  They absolutely stack appointments, whether with the same girl or shuffling a room among multiple girls, I am not sure.  I have made the 30 minute drive to Tysons to then wait around for 10-15 minutes because I know they stacked up an appointment back to back as I have been told so by the girls (not a great start to a session obviously).  I have also made the drive and shown up only to have the girl flake and a not very apologetic response from the management who seem more bothered by "what they have to endure" managing these girls.  Guess what, that is your fucking business.  

If they were more reliable, had more consistently good ladies and not roulette, didn't send email newsletters with information treading on privacy concerns, etc.  then I would say they would have each had thousands more of my dollars.  As it is, there are one or two favorites that I would revisit but won't take a gamble on new ones.  

I like AME. Jennifer's sucks. They banned me a while ago because I asked a few questions about a girl I wanted to make an appt with for $350 and they told me I should just make an appt based on the pix and not waste their time and I responded by saying I though for $350 I should be able to ask a few questions. Boom, an onslaught of abuse by them and banned. After years and thousand of dollars as a loyal client, and several great reviews of their girls. And never a bad review when I had a bad experience (I never give a bad review -- why make it harder on the girl?). So fuckem. Go to AME or just do br at Secrets.

whodat3205 reads

That's exactly what my experience and others I know has been with Jennifer's. I have never dealt with a more unprofessional business in my life, both inside and outside of the hobby. Very nasty attitude and hostile.  

Gentlemen, vote with your wallet! If enough men started having some balls and dignity to stop putting up with foolishness like this, the standard bar of service will be raised and the industry is better off.  

Fuck Jennifer and hope she is reading this.

Anyone notice any improvements?

Personally haven't used Jennifer's Models in a very long time since their models continue to be not up my alley. (To detail on that point, most JM models seem to be older and/or lack English skills... if this is the market they're trying to corner, they're certainly getting blown out of the water in every way possible by XOCompanions.) I was also put off by the public shaming emails that would be sent out every two months, but that hasn't happened in a long time.

AME, though, has been a wonder to deal with. Not sure if they took cues from this thread, but they've been very kind, respectful, and helpful. Props!

A terrible agency that banned me two years ago for refusing to see one of their suggested models. I doubt Jennifer would enjoy sitting at a restaurant and eat what the manager tells her to. I figured that in due time more disgruntled clients would raise their voices here about the terrible attitude of this agency.

I stick with AME, Flawless, and Wet & Wild--never had a problem with them and have  been treated with a modicum of decency. You hear that Jennifer?

So I just used JM for the first time yesterday and had a truly outstanding session with a to-die for girl. Do I believe it could have turned out badly? Sure, as it could for any other agency. You are dealing with a big buck, on the fringe and probably brutal business (which ones aren't?). I personally would not want to get into a pissing match with any of them unless I was planning on moving out of the area soon.

However, I did my research on the girl before I booked. TER makes it easy. Fake reviews? Sure, but after a year in the same area I see many of the girls I have seen being reviewed by the same clients. So I compare my review to theirs so I can get a feel for the way they write the reviews and what we mutually agree on when we see a provider. And this makes it easy to spot the fakes. Of course this means YOU have to do more homework.

Problems. Always. I have been seeing two to three girls a month for the last 12 months and have come to expect the following.

- Age:  yes, most lie however they are still beautiful. And INDYs are the worse for stretching the age.

- Pictures:  you don't expect a professional photographer to charge big bucks for bad pictures, do you? They will brush them up.

-Punctuality:  I have never (with one exception from an independent that works from her home) not had to wait at least 10 minutes for the room number. This kind of irks me as providers are always telling us how much THEY appreciate punctuality. But I am not about to suck a gun over it. And this applies to low volume INDYs as well as agencys. I think it is a women thing. All real women will keep a man waiting (isn't that in the Ten Commandments or something?).

-Hotels: booking hotels in the DC area can be impossible or very very expensive certain times of year. I have had INDYs have to cancel because they could not book a hotel. Room cost can easily wipe out any profit, especially for the agency-priced providers. I had problems with the hotel yesterday while seeing Jennifer's girl. Not Jen's fault but the hotel (a very nice one in a nice area) had cleverly hidden their low cost first floor rooms and had no directory (that I could find). I had to ask a hotel maintenance man where the hell the room was.

So, like everything else, you need to expect problems and do your part to negate them to as much extent as possible. I had a wonderful time (one of the best so far) using JM yesterday. If I would have listened to the nay sayers here that have had (legitimate) problems using JM then I would have missed out on an opportunity many people never get in a lifetime. Had I had a bad time, well, shit happens.

Just my 2 cents.

"If I would have listened to the nay sayers here that have had (legitimate) problems using JM then I would have missed out on an opportunity many people never get in a lifetime."

You could have missed out on an opportunity many people never get in a lifetime? What exactly is that? Sex? Companionship? What exactly is that opportunity that many never get in a lifetime? Other agencies also provide comparable girls and they are far more professional in handling matters.

Besides, you just started with Jennifer's Models and haven't been through the wringer yet. Posters on the Review Board have complained about being bait and switched by this agency. Stick around bub, because the best is yet to come.

>Stick around bub, because the best is yet to come.  

LOL, I'll do just that boy.

Posted By: raydbup

These are two really great agencies in the area that consistently have great lineups. I'm wondering if there are any more that are similar in that they display American models usually in their twenties. Any advice?
For me both AME and Jennifers can be hit or miss. Sometimes great, sometimes meh.  PL has always been extremely reliable and the girls seem to have a good relationship with Sloane. Maybe because it's a woman run agency?  Who knows. Regardless, I just left an amazing session with Addison and am still glowing. Don't get me wrong the first two can be great. And they always seem to be able to accommodate last minute requests. Just a tad bit more planning guarantees a stellar experience.

Thanks for the mention! Glad you had a fabulous time with Addison.  

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Posted By: longtime2009
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Posted By: raydbup
 
 These are two really great agencies in the area that consistently have great lineups. I'm wondering if there are any more that are similar in that they display American models usually in their twenties. Any advice?
For me both AME and Jennifers can be hit or miss. Sometimes great, sometimes meh.  PL has always been extremely reliable and the girls seem to have a good relationship with Sloane. Maybe because it's a woman run agency?  Who knows. Regardless, I just left an amazing session with Addison and am still glowing. Don't get me wrong the first two can be great. And they always seem to be able to accommodate last minute requests. Just a tad bit more planning guarantees a stellar experience.

Treeforthought132 reads

They are good for what they provide, easy and quick access to usually youngish ladies. I've had some phenomenal appointments while also having fairly disapponting sessions probably for every one great there are about 10 so so. However, I've never had but positive experiences with the agency bookers/managers.

Shane_Falco157 reads

I have had some mixed experiences with Agencies in the area. So here is my take on them:

AME - for the most part really great experiences. I have had two not great experiences. Told Jaime about both and received an apology. Neither lady worked for the agency for very long.  

JM - Some great, Some really bad. My problem is JM isn't the ladies, it is Jennifer herself. If you don't have a great experience, then Jen is very rude to you about it. It does no good to tell her that the experience was bad, because she is mean and rude about it in return.  

FLawless - only experiences have been great. Easy to work with.

Matchless Beauties - Really great or Really not Great. I have found very few middle of the road ladies with MB, they are either amazing or really not. They seem to be fairly receptive to feedback when something does not go well, and have never been rude or insulting.  

Touring GFE Girls - You can call this an agency or a booking service that works with a bunch of indy ladies. Either way, I have had great experience with them, in both quality and customer service.  

In summary the only agency that I will never use again is JM, and that is solely based on Jenn's behavior.

Posted By: Shane_Falco
Re: Agengies
I have had some mixed experiences with Agencies in the area. So here is my take on them:  
   
 In summary the only agency that I will never use again is JM, and that is solely based on Jenn's behavior.
Not surprising...is it?

JustMyPOV151 reads

Sloane at Private Liaisons has been very good to me: responsive, polite...and top notch women.

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