Ladies, if you're going to increase your rates, please let your repeat clients know. It can help avoid any uncomfortable discussions about $$$ when we arrive, as most times, a repeat client is not going to contact you via your ad or your website - but by email or text, as you have already established a line of communication with them - one where we won't read/see your updated rates.
Did you have to PayPal the difference?
Do ladies that you have already seen numerous times expect us to look at their website every time
we book them.
No. Luckily i had extra cash on hand...that was intended to be her tip.
I have fallen in this pothole a couple times, as a serial repeater of hot ladies. The first time, I was taken by surprise, I had seen the lady a prior time several months before. I had left the envelope and had my fun. But while driving away, I got a text that said the envelope was light and could I come back so that she would not have to black list me. I pulled over and checked my wallet. Yep, it was empty and I had put all the regular previous donation in the envelope. So I replied back that I had made sure I put the $$$. That is when she said, didn't I see that she had raised her rates last month. I replied, no I had not. But would need to stop by the ATM if needed. She came back that it was needed. I brought the extra 50 to her front door. AND promised myself to never see her again. I checked her website and it was indeed increased in charge.
A couple years later, I had seen an ATF for about a year on and off. I saw that she was coming back into town and made a reservation. Then when I checked her P411 and website, I saw that her rate had gone up 100. That was way Over my limit. I debated about cancelling as it was a week out. I contacted a mutual escort that I had just seen. I asked if it would be okay if she would ask if it was possible to be at the grandfathered rate. I was told that yes, I was could be seen at the grandfathered rate because there was no risk or having to be screened with me. Then she told me that she was also raising her rate and I would be grandfathered at her rate as well. I saw both of them for another year, till they left the business.
So the bottom line, is to check there current rate before booking. Ask if you can be grandfathered, while making the appt. If the rate is too high, tell them that and move on. Girls on 14th street in the early 70's were at $40 plus the hourly room down the street. INFLATION>
I had previously seen expect me to pay a new higher rate. Once I've seen a lady, her number is in my phone, & I never bother to look at her ad again. I simply reach out when I want an appointment. Along the way, many ladies have raised their advertised rates, none have brought their new rate to my attention, I just pay what I've always paid. Not one single lady has ever declined to see me or failed to respond when I've requested another appointment. None have even ever said "in the future my rate is X." If they had, I would've simply moved on, there's plenty of fish in the sea.
Guess you and GoodHumorMan have been lucky ones.
I've had only a couple who grandfathered me. However, after some time the level of service dropped so much that I had to make an excuse when they contacted me to meet. That was the end of it.
That had been my peeve - Why tell me that rates are grandfathered for me and then provide a sub-par experience?
Never contacted them again. I guess they could also figure that I was making a lame excuse and trying to get out of a meet.
Now I get concerned when someone raises their rates, I don't even ask them if i'm grandfathered in... I just move on..
I only contact the lady to schedule an appointment & never waste their time. I have impeccable hygiene & always show up on time, freshly showered. I am polite, treat the lady with respect & leave on time. The ladies seem to appreciate these simple courtesies.
You would think that all above is a no brainer. Unfortunately, there are those hobbyists that believe that paying for a lady’s time and companionship gives them carte blanche to behave as they see fit.
JustLayingLow - Your response seems completely out of context and i'm being nice here
I'm talking about the drop in service quality of the provider after being grandfathered and you talk as if your hygiene has caused you to be grandfathered with no issues. You're not the only one going in with impeccable hygiene.
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it had more to do with my devastatingly good looks & sparkling personality!!!
but if that were the case, all of the guys who think similarly, would get laid for free and would have no need for P4P ![]()
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"only contact the lady to schedule an appointment"
"never waste their time"
"show up on time"
"polite"
"treat the lady with respect"
"leave on time"
You do seem particularly sensitive about your hygiene (or the lack thereof,) hmm, I wonder why???
Don't know what you've been smoking to think that it is something you do that causes you to be grandfathered. No dipshit, it all depends upon the provider, you got no say in that. So quit stating obvious and irrelevant facts in the conversation.
That just shows your ignorance and lack of comprehension nothing much and yeah keep hiding behind your alias.
I only 'post' under my alias, an alias that's been known on the Reviewers Only Board long before 2009, when TER forced a VIP handle to select Only One Alias. You wouldn't know this, but when TER started, VIPs could post under ever changing alias's depending on the subject of a Thread. Btw, in a Thread, once you post under a handle or an alias, TER does not allow you to post under the other, & if they catch it, TER flips your alias.
Handles were posting their experiences, I posted mine. You posted that I & GHM were lucky, I didn't feel Luck had anything to do with it, I think Ladies appreciate my 'no hassles' approach to the Hobby & it has paid benefits to me, so I shared it. I tried to let you off the hook with my 'dripping sarcasm' post, yet you continue to whine. Get a Life.
It's also obvious to everyone, if you repeat with a Provider & her service becomes less than desired, you STOP repeating, at any price.
Not a ding, but just commentary.
Clean hygiene, showing up on time, and being on good behavior are basic standards and not courtesies. Unfortunately, a number of customers don't follow those basic rules.
On the other hand, as you have found (and I), following basic rules/courtesies, in general, gets you better service. If the provider isn't annoyed at you, she is more relaxed and it will be a better session. When comparing notes with other mongers and they see me getting 'extra' services, being squeaky clean - and then taking another shower when a provider asks, will get you much better service. There are two issues, cleanliness and letting the provider know she is in charge of the session and has control. Men in general are much bigger and strong than women, despite what social media wants you to believe. If you can relieve her tension, letting her know that she won't have problems or have to push back you'll have a much better time - but I'm preaching to the choir.
Those are basic stuff that most people do follow.
However, what I'm saying is that they are in NO way something that providers are going to grandfather someone on.
Providers grandfather clients in because they are good clients, remember the 80/20 rule. They are repeating easy clients and steady business. Airlines need an economy class to cover the base costs and make money off the business and first-class passengers. So think of providers charging higher rates as moving from commercial to a private plane. Consider the really high-end girls, private jets. They can live off the high-end clients, and don't need the "volume" of economy class, or even business class, so they don't need to service them. But until they can make the full transition, they keep filling in blank hours or empty "seats" with the old customers.
I'm not on the other side of this business, but my guess is when the rates go really high, like Sasha Stolin, they have enough business to push up their rates. She was an agency girl at $300 to $350 ish, and is now $700 for an hour. I'd be interested to know if any previous clients are still at $350.
At the end of the day, it's a business.
that the genius who accuses others of failing to grasp, has not subjected himself to the same measure.
I'd written a few days back
"I've had only a couple who grandfathered me. However, after some time the level of service dropped so much that I had to make an excuse when they contacted me to meet. That was the end of it."
If he was able to read, he'd have seen that I had been Grandfathered (so no question of irrelevant points that he's trying to make and then double down).
It is the Service after getting GrandFathered in.
I have no idea about his claims of grandfathered etc. because he is Hiding behind his alias. So its all talk from him...
I guess he has too high a opinion of himself and can't take that bubble to be burst ![]()
who charge $800+ per hour maintain a completely separate persona at a somewhat average rate of $300-400/hr with different pics & contact info. They are Happy to take the extra money from guys who think they are in a more Exclusive Club.
Those Providers screen not only for safety, but also to make sure the two prospective clients, who are actually the same person, never realize she's the same girl, just with a different hourly rate.
In 20 years of the hobby I have never really been a regular of a lady until recently. I had seen her 4 times over the course of probably 2.5 months. With the pandemic I had to take 3 months off as I could not get out of the house. Finally had the chance to get il an appointment this week and set up a date. I'm a very OCD person so I happened to check her social media and website and see the increase. Another note to ladies make sure all advertising platforms are updated with the most recent rates. Anyway reached out to her assistant and asked if I would be grandfathered and was turned down. Little bummed but happy to pay the increase. Felt for the area she was very well priced anyway. As a client I always appreciate being grandfathered.
And I liked them enough that I just paid the higher rate because I still felt it was worth it. One of them told me I didn’t have to, so I said call the difference your tip then. I still see her to this day.
Conversely, I ashamedly saw a provider who told me about certain customers who were grandfathered in for $40 short stays. I never messed with her again. This was in the US and within the last year, by the way.
I saw her for $300 in February...and now she's $500...
I might have gone to $400, but I can't justify paying THAT much more, especially not when the enthusiasm has waned...
The $400 would have been more for old times sake than a real burning need to see her...
oh well...*shrug*
that if a lady increased her rate and was seeing a regular client at her old rate there should be a mention prior to the appt.
Even if it is just a text or email to say please look at my new updated rates on my website,etc.
Depending on how regularly you are seeing a provider it might help to check her website every so often to see if anything changed.