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lustafire 44 Reviews 5365 reads
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I've noted a trend in back page listings, more and more listings showing up with minimal info, and links to "vanilla" social media sites such as fb, instagram, twitter, etc. (often leading to minimal or non-existent pages.)

Just window shopping today, I'm seeing a flood of BP listings showing just a phone number as title, then the phone number repeated in the listing, and a link as indicated.

Checked and seeing this in sf, la, ny, and it applies to w4m as well as t4m.  Almost like a form of denial-of-service attack: flood BP with bullshit ads, make it difficult to pick out "legit" ads.

I can dimly imagine some motivations behind that - BP wanting controversial content OFF their platform - pushing it off to other platforms (BTW, tumblr seems more tolerant of licentious content, and GOOD FOR THEM, as compared to twitter, fb, et. al.)

Seems like kind of a pain in the ass, and not the GOOD kind of pain in the ass :)

I've kind of settled on ONE Favorite lately, so maybe it doesn't matter too much, but I do still like window shopping, 'cause, you know, I'm a slut.

Meanwhile, RIVER STARK answered my post ... **SWOON** (lol)

You’re right lustafire, River Stark is a goddess

River, I just saw you’ll be in San Diego this year on you your blog. Wherever you advertise I’ll make sure to check your schedule so I don’t miss you.  

River and Kacy, thank you both for your thoughtful posts on this board

i've had ads on BP for years and freshen them up periodically with new pics, ad copy, video.
few weeks ago, i tried to update with new pics and got hit back with error message to effect of "too long, exceeds 140 character limit). i freaked a bit and closed page and fortunately my lengthier ad stayed in tact (now assuming BP is implementing changes on rolling basis with older ads).
this recent change follows another where you can't include specialized hyperlinks in the ad (I once had link to details on meeting me such as etiquette, etc.)
oh and btw, BP increased cost of sponsoring ad and bumping it to top of listings.
in a nut shell, bummer for providers trying to appeal to a certain demo (i.e., mature gents for moi) and hobbyists hoping to do some separating of the wheat from the chaff (although fyi, munching on me is safe for the gluten free :)
xoxo
kacy

Thanks for the update/clarification!  It's a change for the worse, certainly.

Think I'm going to contact my favorite/regular and offer to help set up a tumblr or twitter or something.
Her ad is pretty basic, 3 R-rated photos, basic stats, vague description of services, and ter id.
I think a basic tumblr page would be most suitable - I've seen twitter block some trans girls.

my pleasure hon.  
fyi a good way to avoid being blocked on twitter is to avoid nudity/sex acts/text in the header or avatar photos.
I learned that the hardway when I used my recent DVD cover for my header pic. #NaughtyTGirl :-P

...Why your traffic has decreased...

No Name?  No location?  How do we know where you are located?  Chicago is big.  I don't go downtown.  The search in Schaumburg which I usually use only shows one provider.  Really?  None in Oakbrook?

Location, location, location.

Hi babe , just letting you know you have an option in Glenview at a residential location . Would love to warm you up sometime this winter. 👄😘

All new ads are phone number only.  Is it a new rule/format of theirs due to the legal issues they’re facing?

LATSDog228 reads

Well, based on the above comments which make perfect sense to me, I assume they are doing just that....trying to get all or as much of the non dating, escort seeking content off of their site.  If you recall, the adult section was shut down and days later, the dating section exploded.  My feeling is the "you must have a social media link" to post an ad here requirement that popped up about a month ago was the first step towards what you are seeing today. They thought all of the content would not be on their site.....Well, I have to give them credit...almost but some providers are posting jpeg details in the picture section of the BP site itself.  

as in my credit card to sponsor my ads and move them to top of listings during peak periods.
i understand and sympathize with their plight of being targeted by moralists, but don't try and have it both ways (including a recent 65% rate increase).
c'est la vie, huh?

BP isn’t trying to covertly drive away Provider ads.  If they wanted to do that, they would just shut down the dating section. Or they would just ban/deny escort ads in the dating section, like Craigslist did.

BP has become the whipping boy for anti-trafficking politicians, and continues to be a trove of information for LE Vice divisions. The new format (phone number in the subject line, 140 character limit) limits the ability of intrusive info gatherers to easily Google for evidence of illegal activity.  Providers must know edit text into their photos, which requires more effort for those looking for specific locations, “new” or “young” dates, specific sexual acts.  In the DC area, for example, a Prince William County vice detective looking for MS-13 promoted Latinas can no longer just use the BP search bar to find “Latina, Manassas, Hablo” ads.  They have to open each and every “Northern Virginia” W4M or T4M identify potential suspects.

Based on the legislation that recently passed on Capitol Hill, it’s likely even these BP revisions will allow BP to continue to function as a cost effective advertising channel for providers and hobbyists.

Which poses a challenge for the industry because BP and earlier Craigslist was the entry level pipeline for new hobbyists and first timers.

this may have something to do with BP's  latest trend

just got notice that my long running BP ad chock full o' details "Can no longer be upgraded..." (i.e., moved to top of listings or sponsored)
as I suspected,  it will now fall off edge of the earth :(  
moralists: 100 gazillion  
kacy: nil

This new backpage format is really hurting us providers.

I am worried that before we know it, backpage will be just gone.

i've been pondering if it'd actually be better if BP did exit "TG ads" market. With no info permitted in ads, been wasting time with a lot of non-qualified prospects (could be budget, could be they want a mistress dominatrix type, location disconnect, etc).  
And I don't like having to get into verbal conversations about "roses" and so end up sending them links to my other ads with more details (and that's too much "friction" as they say in the UX/marketing realm).  
I pay fair amount monthly to advertise on BP and not feeling like the ROI is much good anymore. Maybe if BP went away, hobbyists would migrate to other ad sites where there is more info in the ads. Nature abhors a vacuum, ya know?
Never thought I'd think this way about BP, but experience since change of format brought me here.
xoxo

I would agree that the site has become nearly useless.  You mention hobbyists migrating to other sites and not sure what those might be.

Again, i really wish it was the way it use to be, but that ain't life.
Best way to find those other sites is to open private window (or "incognito window" in some browsers) and type "[your city] transsexual escorts". by and large, some reputable ad sites will show up in top 10 results.  
cross check here on TER any that you're interested in :)
good luck!
xoxo

I'm curious --- why the special window?  Doesn't typing "[your city] transsexual escorts" in a regular window access the very same reputable ad sites that show up in top 10 results ?

there's a good possibility that you'd get same results either way. sometimes though, search engines factor in your previous searches & surfing to try and tailor results to what it thinks you want. so if you're a hobbyist that surfs and searches a fair amount in regard to potential TS providers, you might get results skewed a bit toward your past history.  

where this type of thing is really prevalent is when you search something about your self. for example, if I search "kacy tgirl" in regular window, sites that i maintain (e.g., my paysite, online stores where I sell vids)  predominate in the top results. but if I use a private window, I get more of a cross section of where I show up online (alas, like pirate sites where my vids exist). such is because I of course often visit the sites I maintain and the search engine algorithms factor in my prior surfing.

like i mentioned, prolly not a huge deal in the context here, but can't hurt either.
xoxo
kacy

asnlvr222 reads

Many of us cut our teeth driving Santa Monica & Western and meeting some lovely girls.  It was a good system-- superior to the internet.  I welcome a return to this romantic way to meet a date.  

Forget the candlelight & wine, simp nonsense.  Pick up the damsel of your dreams on Santa Monica Blvd in L.A., Post & Larkin in S.F. and whisk her away on a cardate!  True spontaneity and 21st century romance at its best.

I make a killer postcard, which helps me stand out although a lot of guys still miss the postcard :/  

I despise this new BP listing, makes it very hard to find a lady. Especially since they often cannot put in a better part of town listing. Fortunately, I have 3 providers that are my ATF's, I have the numbers saved in my phone under a customer name, when I see them post up, then I will contact one of them.

despise is indeed an apt description

This lady senator is very goofy!  She is known as Claire McCashcow.  The reason she says that BackPage needs to be shut down, is because it is big into Human Trafficking.  I think BP can tell if there's any of that going on and would take appropriate action to stop it, the same as we all would.  And I knew a good man I worked with, who got another buddy, and they took out the guard and freed the young ladies, from a human trafficking ring, in the muslim country of the UAE.  Miss McCashcow just figures to use the old slimy style politics.  The "Do it for the children" to get votes!  It would be good if she really was helping the cause, but instead she's hurting the ladies that really rely on it for their living!  

This sure aint her first screw-up she has done!  She's tries to make it look like she's doing good, but the reality is that she has screwed not just her state, but all Americans, in more ways then one.  She comes up for re-election this coming November.  We are all against child abuse, but it's wrong to falsely use it for political points.  Her shutting down the escort section of BP, is to a plan to get her more votes.  But I think she's wrong about BP.  Instead of working against Back Page, it's best to work with them.  And it will not stop with just BP!  It's not just about politics or a political party, it's about anyone who makes trouble for their fellow Americans!  It's time for everyone to come together and to vote Miss McCashcow out!!  

bravo!
playbook nowadays is that if you want to propose action adverse to #sexwork or #sexworkers, you conflate human trafficking into the discussion.  
for most recent example of such, see the "reasoning" in RI for a bill to impose fee to access online porn http://www.providencejournal.com/news/20180302/ri-bill-would-impose-fee-for-accessing-online-porn
#smh

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