Every provider has different screening requirements, a copy of driver's license, references ,  work badge, none, etc..  But a provider recently asked for a copy of my paystub?  I just got back into seeing providers after some years, didn't  if is this a standard requirement now.  

No, it's not standard, but I have come across one or two women who require that as part of screening. Not sure what the point is compared to a  work ID/LinkedIn/company which is much more common.

as soon as a provider shows me her drivers license or ID  i will show her mine ...  until then if white lists or references dont suffice then next ......  

I ask for your DL (name and photo only) and a current selfie. Asking for this work shit I don't get. I don't care if you sold an 8 ball and are using the funds to pay me, none of my business.

I assume she wants to see something identifiable of the company name / your name. You can always cover up the bits that are too personal and too valuable to "share": SSN, Gross, FICA, ... Net, ...  
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The thing is ... I once had a small side business and all of my letterhead, invoices, and other business forms were done in MS Office or other OTC software and printed on a laser printer on regular paper. It was all REAL because the biz was real, but anyone can make biz forms on their computer these days. "Imp's ID and Security Services, Inc.; Employee #00001, Employee Name: impposter; ..."

verifies that you do NOT work for LE.  The downside, and the reason it's a hard "NO" for me is that paystubs usually contain other personal information like your SS# and home address which could be used for blackmail or to do you financial harm.  A work ID badge can also be used against you unless you are the business owner and immune from a provider who didn't like your review calling your supervisor and telling him/her that she is prostitute that you spend time with.

about as legit as CDL's Sushi Bar and Bait Shop.   Lol

It verifies no such thing. It's easy enough to provide a very fake paystub.

... does NOT mean YOU have to comply.  This includes screening or deposits.  There are many that don't ask, seek them.  

with each companion seeking different things. If a woman asks for something I won't give, I don't reach out to her.  

as it would mean no one who’s retired or independently wealthy could see providers. And for those who do have paystubs, there’s the issues others have mentioned.

I see a lot of women and never been asked and the two groups of men you mention guarantees it won’t become the standard imo.

you are an employee, and you're not, now you have made yourself look dangerous and have moved from difficult screening to blacklisting.   Worth it?  I don't know.  I have never put myself in a position to risk getting blacklisted.  What would YOUR reaction be if a provider justifiably doxed you here on TER for giving her a fake paystub, or at the very least, put your name on the PO board to warn other providers?  You really didn't think this through, did you?

If we comply, then it will be a standard.  Just say no and move on.

Otherwise move on!

following this advice unless one of your refs has gone BSC since you last saw her.  

How come there are constant busts regardless of paystub being asked for or not?

Some providers do mind if youre selling rocks on the street and may cause unnecessary drama/scenes/etc

You are the one that did not think it though, obviously. And your MO is always to attempt to turn it back onto the person and attack and belittle them rather than staying on the topic for discussion. Narcissism 101, but I digress.  
You stated that providers ask for a paystub to confirm they are not LE. Mr. Holy responded that a fake pay stub can easily be made. Clearly *you* did not think this through.
If it were LE and they were trying to do a sting or trying to target a specific provider they would, of course, make a fake stub indicating they work in corporate finance at Microsoft making 10K a week after taxes. And to cover their bases of course they would have a phone number listed that would go back to the LE head quarters so the secretary can "confirm" all of the info about this "employee".  
I have met Mr. Holy. He is a very kind, genuine, and thoughtful person. He also sent me all of his screening info without question because he is an upstanding and respectful guy. To speak poorly of him actually just reflects poorly on you. Do better.  

Please don't say this unless you actually mean it. I am an open sex worker and all of my info is available for confirmation. When guys say they will give me their DL if I show them mine and I tell them that is fine 100% of time I never hear from them again. Every. Damn. Time.  
Just say you don't want to give out your info, that is fine. But don't lie. Tacky and uncouth.

That’s asking for too much!

don't really know how the SMART girls do this.  If the customer tells them he works at Microsoft, they are not going to call the number the customer gives them to verify this.  They will look up the number on the internet for HR at MS's company website, call and ask HTR to verify his employment there.  Only a provider who is a complete idiot would call the number they guy hands them on a piece of paper.  Jeez, you're dumb.  

Thank you for once again, in your most specular fashion, doing exactly what I said you would do. Again.  
This is getting way too easy...... LOL
As always, best of luck to you in life and have an amazing rest of your week!!!  

Anyone looking for an example or definition of Troll.....CDL

I've never worked for any company, big or small, that put their phone number on their paystubs.  

Reminds me of a unique incident that I experienced when I first started. As background, for those you aren’t aware, the smallest denomination of bills in Canada is $5, they use coins for $1 and $2.  

That’s just….  LOONEY!
*Ba-Dum-Tissss*

Don't forget to tip your bartender.....

Most companies outsource employment verification to a third party vendor, the most popular being The Work Number by Equifax. If you call up HR at Microsoft or search their website they will direct you to The Work Number's website. A source included below for reference. Nobody does employment verifications over the phone anymore, its all digital and outsourced. I doubt smart girls are calling up the HR departments of Fortune 500 companies since these days it doesn't get them anywhere.

There was a touring Provider, Butterfly-something? something with Butterfly in her name or nickname?, whose rate pages mentioned that she accepted specie (precious metals; rolled (silver or gold) coins, etc.). She traveled with a small scale and testing kit for determining whether something was 10 karat krap or 24 karat gold.  
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These days, a roll of gold Krugerrands, Pandas, Maple Leafs, etc. can buy a car or a small house!

My favorite part about this thread is the clients who say, I would never do this and I would never do that ..  
Its total BS and posturing. When a client wants to really see you they would name their first born after you if it was a requirement ..  
And there are many TER clients who make these claims that they "would never" jump through hoops, and absolutely would jump through fire, because Ive seen it first hand.  

There are lots of people, me included, who never have and never will provide PI to book a date. And I never had a problem.
There are lots of people, me included, who never have and never will pay a deposit.
Most of the time when I played I was no longer employed so pay stubs were not even a possibility.
Don't be so sure you know everything.  Your business model works for you. But it's far from universal.

that someone that had a VERIFIED paystub was busted?  I would love to hear how they do this from your wealth of knowledge on this subject.  You sound as uninformed as some of the providers here about paystub verification.

nothing substantive to refute what I said.  Talk about making it easy.  Lol

seen Kgirls, and anyone who has seen them KNOWS they are not trafficked.  They come and go as they please and tour the country at will.  The agencies are just a place to work that is cheaper for them than renting a hotel room.

Talk about "posting your false and stupid shit."  Where did you pull that statistic out of - thin air or your butt?  That's not even true in Los Angeles, let alone NATIONALLY.

You are giving off that chest beating posturing vibe. And your history is of providers from like 10 years ago .

Do at least a little research on Kgirls!
Yes, trafficking is real, but not with Kgirls!

"Low rent human", why would you put down these women because you don't like someone who likes them?

You holding circumstantial evidence for indictment or blackmail is just not an option for me.  Deposits are also a hard pass for me.  

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I understand you don't know me except for a few old reviews here. But then you assume you know the rest. And you're not even close.
In fact, you couldn't be more wrong to think I believe "this community represents the totality of the industry." I spent many years in Costa Rica, where I met lots of mongers who'd never even heard of TER. I've also played in Panama and Australia.
In fact, I've always ridiculed White Lists here for having ZERO relevance as a screening tool. Though I did use P411. And I'm not even sure exactly what you mean when you say I "thinks as a TER member [I] hold weight." But I never thought that at all.
As for screening I actually used to screen for a very well-known provider in New York.
So please try not to make assumptions about people based on absolutely no knowledge. You just come across as an arrogant fool.

Great to hear the perspective of the screener.

Paystubs are easy to create & that holds no value when verifying someone. I don’t ask for work badges it’s not important. Real life information ID yes & a photo, so I can verify it’s you. Everyone is different. I’ve never required references because I don’t trust anyone I do not know personally. If someone I know can vouch for you it’s the best because you can bypass my screening.

Well, Nick, she is correct with the bit about people that see a provider as MUST see and nothing else will do so I'm will to pay any cost are going to do that. Kind of a tautalogical argument but (as is true of any circular argument) true in the you have to conceed the conclusing if you accept the premise.

that wasn't part of her post that I disputed.

members HERE . . . ."   I was talking about those members posting HERE, on TER.  Maybe I should have said "posters" to be more clear.    As far as LA goes, I would say that MORE than half of those posting on the GD and Kgirl boards have seen Kgirls.  If they are posting on the discussion boards, we can see their review history with one click, if they aren't posting here, it would be a monumental task to discern how many UTR members also see Kgirls. Use a little common sense.  

If he had paid with rolls of $2 coins, it would have been just ... TOONIE!
*Ba-Dum-Tissss*

you ain't half bad, you did call them human!

Well, not really for me as I've long been aware of your deficits. So are many others here.

They can be faked, but alot of the big pay facilitators have the watermark.  Also , the decision to see a client is based on the totality picture from screening.  
Like how quickly did they get the info to you, was there alot of back and forth, was there push back.  
Screening has a two fold significance , while the info provided verifies the client, the ease in which they gave it to you is important too. It gives a good sense of if someone is going to be a boundary pusher and respect your rules.  

LoL!
Some might say that would be going toonie far, but it would weigh a lot less at least.

over 100 providers makes you an expert in your own mind, but you are wrong about a few things.  TER was not "shut down" for two years.  They only blocked access from the U.S.  You could not log from here, you had to use a VPN that was based offshore.  They allowed neither reviews nor advertisements of U.S. providers, but there were many U.S. member posting from offshore VPN's.  Some of us even posted reviews of ladies we saw in other countries.  The smarter providers who knew how to bypass the blackout were posting alongside the customers during the entire 20 months TER was dark in the U.S.  Those posts during the entire 20 months can still be read. I would think someone with your claimed expertise would have known that PM's among VIP members were still alive and well, and many of us made new provider friends during the blackout.  We just couldn't review them.   Apparently, you didn't know TER was still operating, so I can assume that the providers "you work with" lost some potential business during those 20 months