Lets talk about it here because some folks in the other thread want to cycle back to a specific case instead of general concept.  

Not answering yet ... just thinking, I mean typing, out loud.
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If notice is given early enough, she does not need to take a hotel room or can cancel her reservation w/o penalty. If not, she is stuck with a hotel room charge or cancellation fee. If she can fill the appointment block, it's (almost) a wash.  Depending on her SOP, she might have to invest time and money in rapid verification.  
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If early enough, she can leave freshly laundered or dry cleaned clothing in the plastic packaging. If it's too late and she is wearing / using stuff, she has the additional cost of re-laundering / dry-cleaning stuff even though there was no appointment or meeting.  
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Hair and makeup: time and expense. Early cancellation, expense reduced to zero. Late cancellation, "all dolled up and no place to go" and time and money need to be recovered.
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Oops. I gotta. I'll be back later.

of a full-session-price cancellation fee for cancellations with short notice. To a point.

As far as I'm aware, most hotels only charge one nights stay as a cancellation fee on any multi-night stay.

No provider is charging just to recoup costs. She is profiting. A percentage or flat amount to insure she doesn’t lose money fine. But the argument that because she could have booked another appointment and therefore you have to pay the whole amount is one sided and selfish. This is why I have no interest in a provider who would do this. No chemistry with selfish people.

If she clearly has a policy that 100% of the money is due for cancellations under 24 hours, then as a client you either book with her and abide by that policy or you don't book her and you seek out her competition.
But to cry and stamp your (plural) feet when you (again, plural) cancel late with a girl whose policy is clearly known and documented before booking, well that is just childish and entitled behavior.  
The guys I feel sorry for are the ones who book a provider with no mention of the penalty for late cancellations and then her strong arming him for payment in full with the fear of blacklisting or doxxing hanging over his head. That is just an unscrupulous woman and a provider that is everything wrong with this lifestyle.

That’s not happening in my lifetime! As I stated before, no deposit ever…ever…ever! Next on list?

There are plenty of IRL examples, especially in luxury markets and high end service industries.

Zackly!

So if I booked a hotel or a car for a day, it's essentially a 100% cancelation penalty.  
Aside from these examples, you ignore my main point that these fees don't incentivize bad behavior by the provider, or hotel,  or tour company for that matter.

I pretty much agree with this all. Whether I like it or not, if she is clear about her policy, any man who books her needs to live with it and follow it. In this case, it sounds like she was not clear about it, but insisted on the full amount any. Now that is just wrong.

What car have you rented lately that cost you 100 dollars to rent?

No one said anything about transparency in this thread and here you are starting this shit up again.  

Show me a major hotel site where a booking online that cancellation fee is the price of the entire stay

Nope.  

This thread is discussing STRICTLY the policy of cancellation fee being equal service fee.

As you are now arguing with almost everyone. lol.
You were even given an iron clad, real world example that a hotel booking cancelled less than 24 hours would result in, sit down for this part, a ONE HUNDRED PERCENT cancellation fee where NO SERVICE was offered. Then YOU diverted to a multi-day stay, of course, as that is what a weasel does. lol.  
So there are real world examples, but you cant be honest enough to acknowledged they exist. Me? IDC if they exist or not. It isn't revenant to my spot on rebuttal of your silly argument. Your predatory comment is ridiculous. Transparency is everything here so of course you had a hissy when I mentioned it as it destroys your feeble attempt to take the buyer off the hook.
You are OBSESSED with this and it's your obsession that makes you lose these arguments, time and time again. You are all emotional, and it shows in your warped and faulty logic.  
I have no skin in the game emotionally, as most here don't. I could care less what a girl demands. I ONLY care if I am agreeable to it and comfortable with it.  
You were obviously never taught "buyer beware" at school. That's because you are a graduate of The CDL Middle School. lol.
Now, how about instead of you complaining morning, noon and night about what some provider has or doesnt have on her website, go find a women (with a zero cancellation penalty of course, lol) and get laid already! You are all backed up and grumpy.  
Being the Ralph Nader of sex work can be taxing and stressful for you. Sex can fix that, Ralph. Lol.

Lmao, don't shout with explanation points. Your spinoff at the same time as the original post got me confused. That's the this case I was referencing. I did answer your post in my first response though.

Ad hominems? Check
Callig me weird names from politics lke Ralph Nader? Check

Rocket moves the goalposts (again). Repeated cancellations for $50K surgeries? Inside 24 hours. You’re full of shit.

This guy is struggling for his life lol.

That's ironic because he's one guy who I've also argued this with for hours on here. Just mostly in the kgirl forum.

As a provider, I generally stay *far away* from areas of conflict, but I'm not seeing a lot of interjection here from 'our side' of things, so I'm feeling compelled to offer a contrasting viewpoint, if not only for perspective.

Saw a related story completely separate from this discussion the other day, link below.

Begrudgingly because like I said, I think giving an incentive to seller to not do service and get the same money as if he or she has done a service, is bad with no upside to the client. If the seller is honest and hard worker, great. If the seller is the kind of person who tries his or her best to work the least and get the most profit, there could be a problem.

The point people have been repeatedly trying to make is that this pretty much IS a standard industry practice for the independent GFE provider. That's pretty much it.

I’m still searching.....

Preach.....

You have gone wrong in several areas re: this topic but none more obvious than this:
"Somehow, suddenly the seller has the power to do anything he or she desires, no matter how it registers on the scales of ethics morality or even legality."
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WRONG. With regards to escorting in the U.S., the seller can NOT "do anything." They can only "request" that the BUYER "does something." It is the buyer who contacts and engages with the seller, at his/her free will and volition, fully knowing (again with the proviso that her policies are clear and obviously listed) the potential downside BEFORE the transaction.  
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The second half of your sentence is equally problematic, as we know SW is illegal, and many in society find it "unethical" and "immoral." That's one of the things that makes sex work vastly different than all the real world examples of other businesses, among several other things.  Those are ALL legal and do not have the stigma of being unethical or immoral on their face by the public at large. You have allies in your fight against those legal entities, and any of their unjust business practices, with not JUST the government, be it local, state or federal, but the PUBLIC as well, as they with be with you in many cases as well.  
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You want to be the "champion of consumer rights" in an industry that is totally not regulated by any legal entity. It is one thing to "go against City Hall," as that is hard enough, but to do battle with thousands of sex workers, with no governing or regulating body to complain to in case of "predatory" business practices, with VERY few people on the buyer side who back you or even agree with you, than you are just begging to bang your head against that proverbial wall.  
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In your own headline you write this:
"If this eventually becomes interindustry practice, I will begrudgingly accept it."  
I think you should get a jump start on that acceptance now, as virtually all the rest of us already have.

I dont see how it's an industry standard. In kgirl world this was never the standard, and now that it's rearing it's ugly head recently a lot of customers are upset at this. And I'm here to add to this.  

I dont get why I have to repeat this so many times so you'd understand.

"Providers are people. We want to work with you, but we also want you to recognize that we have families, personal relationships, and our own lives that we plan around to cater to you."

She explained her steep cancellation fee and you got the rationale for it straight from the source. You claim it’s not fair, but you personally have never paid a provider a cancellation fee. Why make an issue when in reality for you the issue doesn’t exist.

First of all, why not let the lady answer? She put together a good post, and I replied back with as much courtesy as possible. I didn't attack her, didn't bombard her with snarkiness or unrelated gifs like some people.  

Her cancellation policy might be too steep for you, but clients who can afford her rates and know her policies seem to be fine with it.

Are we done now?
Anyone change anyone else's mind?
Can we get back to getting laid by hot chicas?

claimed to have been a TER member since BEFORE TER was even started does not mean that you should be impatient with the rest of us who did not get here until AFTER TER was officially started.   There have been many topics here that have been repeated from time to time for the benefit of newer members that were not even here during the previous discussions.  Chill, bro.  

I say this with full sincerity, I think I may be a bit lost at what the intention of this post is; It feels like you’re meeting a lot of folks here with combativeness, when this very easily could be an earnest conversation about why a provider would have these fees in place. I am also a bit lost about what this has to do with a provider cancelling? (To my knowledge, it seems to be fairly standard for providers to return deposits if they cancel, so I’m not really understanding how that would happen to you multiple times, unless there are extenuating circumstances or some critical context that I’m missing here.)

A guy that needs to beat a topic to death, get the last word in and has to defend himself constantly with 8 paragraphs of verbal nothingness, diversion and twisted logic but you do you I guess. lol
Really funny claiming Helix is basically a liar when you have said YOU are the biggest liar on TER. Or did you forget TER keeps your posts on file?  
Damn...those pesky facts got in the way of your point again.

I don't read CDL's posts because I have him on ignore, but I'm amused by the fact that he responds to virtually all my posts.  

That he has this hard on for you? I'll see your post, and like clockwork he'll chime in with something, anything...just to zing you...I never seen this kinda behavior before...so what did you do?

At the risk of getting flamed, kgirls and agencies are a different business model than most independents. Kgirls have no problems with filling cancelled spots because they are usually same day bookings. Independents, especially touring girls, are less likely to do same day bookings. While the industry is still sex work, the category is different. To use the hotel analogy, it's the lodging industry but you can get a motel, hotel, Airbnb, etc. Motels are same day, rarely booked in advance. Hotels are booked in advance and usually have sliding cancellation policies and terms. Airbnb is usually pay up front but still able to cancel for decreasing scale of refund amounts.

Nope we're not done. I, for once, am expecting a reply from Chloe. She made it a point how there should be respect for her time and money, so I want to know what she thinks about respect for the customers time and money.  

This board is (and has been even more so in the past) full of people with hard ons for one another who can't let certain people post without jumping on them. I've had quite a few of my own stalkers like this.

What I "did to him" was to have the chutzpah to not be cowed by him, to fail to acknowledge his unfailingly superior intellect (sorry Kahn--you've been deposed), and basically to enjoy fucking hot women while he stews in a great big vat of bitterness, hurt and self-pity.

I'll be the one in the corner wearing the Dunce cap.

I've seen a few back and forth but nothing to this extends. Seems like he's waiting in the bushes to pounce. So No,I haven't and I have to say, It...and I've seen alot.
But there is that ONE guy on the PR board who stalked everyone. But that was the PR board so it really doesn't count because we know that boards is full of the looney tunes

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"am also a bit lost about what this has to do with a provider cancelling?"