it won't be legalized for quite some time.
It will more than likely be "informally de-criminalized"....In other words, local jurisdictions will choose whether or not to actively "police it" or not. Cops have been stretched to the limit and defunded in many areas. They barely enforce routine traffic violations....Why bother? Funny, in the DC area, liberal tax anything- MoCo chooses to hit it hard and plaster AMP pictures all over the place, but across the river in No VA, it seems like the opposite.
Good Morning Everyone,
Last night between 10:30 pm & 11 pm.......I spoke to a older female about Legalizing Prostitution. Her & I both said that they should and treat Prostitution as a regular job (Paying taxes & Etc). What do y'all think ?!! Is it a great idea?!!
but more or less done that way in most of the free world.
Kind of sad considering we consider America to be the home of the free.
CAPITALISM
Yea but the word "FREE" means that we can do the LEGAL shit if we choose to do it.
Prostitution is one of the oldest professions. Why not legalize it?
A hobbyist does not want to have to be giving out 1099 statements for each provider they see.
Maybe but then I don't give out 1099 to any other businesses I've paid money to. Perhaps things have changed recently but a quick google seems to indicate personal expenditures do not require the person to then start issuing 1099s
"The most important point is that only businesses need to issue 1099s — if you paid someone for personal purposes, you are not (yet) required to send them or the IRS a Form 1099."
and certain organizations are exempt. This is only relevant if you are using your business funds for "consulting" expenses.
So I can stop giving my barber a 1099 each year? Great! Less paperwork for me!
pretty sure there was a specific imposter exemption so I think you are still on the hook.
where that $10 went by tax time anyway.
*IF* the US goes to legalization you would only have to issue a 1099 form if the payment was more than $600. And that of course would also only be if you paid with a credit card or check or some other form of payment that can be traced.
(This would be the 1099-MISC form in case you were wondering)
I would much rather see it decriminalized than legalized. With legalization comes numerous government rules, regulations and hoops to jump through. What I would prefer is for law enforcement to look the other way, for lack of a better term. Get vice out of the consensual sex business altogether.
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Now I am not talking about under age activity, trafficking/forced sex work etc as all of that needs to be eradicated. I also don't think it should be on the streets, in front of children. With today's technology, everything can be done by phone/computer and meets ups should take place in hotels and residences and not on the streets.
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We also need a system that would allow women to freely come forward to LE without fear of reprisal to report crimes against SWs. That is vital.
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Btw, many women pay taxes now so we don't need legalization for that either. Imo, legalization would lead to many government intrusions that aren't currently in place. I think the sentiment is a good one, but the implementation of legalization carries so many potential unforeseeable downsides as for it to be untenable. Decrim is the way to go, imho.
Excellent response Robert, I agree on all of the points you made. With decriminalization clients can also come forward if they are scammed or robbed as well. Our legal system/small claims court system should be available for these types of disputes.
I personally would not be opposed to voluntary registration/licensing as I think it would be helpful to weed out the scammers. But with that being said I would never support any required licensing or registration.
100% full decriminalization of all adult consensual sex work.
it won't be legalized for quite some time.
It will more than likely be "informally de-criminalized"....
In other words, local jurisdictions will choose whether or not to actively "police it" or not. Cops have been stretched to the limit and defunded in many areas. They barely enforce routine traffic violations....Why bother?
Funny, in the DC area, liberal tax anything- MoCo chooses to hit it hard and plaster AMP pictures all over the place, but across the river in No VA, it seems like the opposite.
Personally, I have many reasons why I believe it should be legal. On the flip side, I am not sure as a country we are ready for it. As we have seen in recent elections, we are very split between conservative values and liberal ones. You can be fairly sure that most conservatives would not be for it. And, even some liberals would not. I would say less than half of the country would be. And, if this some how was allowed, conservatives we call it some far left liveral woke move. It would become a focal point of the conservative political campaign, and it may sway the independents enough to push out liveral leadship.
I say this seeing what's happened in recent years. Roe vs. Wade was repealed. Half the country seems to be okay with men in power pushing laws to control women's bodies. And while escorting is not solely women, it is mostly women and some see it as a woman occupation. And, unfortunately too many in our country think it's okay to create laws that limit the control women have over their own bodies. It's sad and I do not like it and I wish it were not true.
I would prefer it was legal. I would prefer it was regulated and both escorts and clients had better protections. This would help limit scams on both sides. It would help provide more safety. It would create more money for the country through taxes. It would do a lot of positive things. But it also may divide an already divided country. America still has a lot of growing up to do.
Personally my concern would be that the legalization model may resemble what is currently in place in NV counties where prostitution is legal within the scope of the existing laws.
- mandatory licensing for sex workers
- brothel work only
- live-in shifts (girls get tested at the start of their shifts and are not permitted to leave until the shift ends, typically 5 days minimum)
- long days (12 + hour days)/high volume
- high prices - paying the sex worker plus all the brothel expenses
As a professional with a full-time career who dabbles in sex work, I’d be completely shut out. There’s no way I’d license myself as a sex worker. I think this wouldn’t be enjoyable for me if I did it all day 5 days straight. I much prefer this as my secret side gig.
Considerably more advantages to decriminalization in general but even then the model needs to be carefully considered.
Yes, girls need to be registered but there are no actual brothels. There are hotels where the girls and their clients congregate.
No live-in shifts
No long days
No high prices. The going rate is around $120-$150/hr.
Certainly not saying the NV brothel model is the only way, rather that I’d be worried it would be the one the US would choose to adopt.
I can’t see American society ever being as relaxed about sex work as Latin America might be, or some of the European countries.
I’m curious about this hotel setup. Can you leave with the girl or do you have to stay at that hotel with her? Can you take her back to your hotel or home (if you were living there)?
In Jaco the girls gather at the pool bar of the Cocal, a nice hotel/casino right on the beach. If you're staying there you cut your deal and take her right to your room. If you've got a room at another hotel, you take her there and stop directly at the front desk. She gives her ID card to the person at the desk and the monger usually gets charged a $20 room fee for bringing a guest up.
When you're done she just goes back to the lobby, gets her card and does whatever else she wants.
Because she's left her ID card at the front desk, the monger is protected in case something goes wrong.
The same basic approach works in the CR capitol of San Jose and also in Panama City and most other places down there.
Sounds like this is the “tourist experience”, and it seems decent.
I wonder how this system might work if all parties were local? Do the locals even partake? There must be some who do.
I used to duo with a beautiful Brazilian girl in Manhattan. She was adorable and so sexy, but definitely all business.
I don't think it's the "tourit experience" but rather than travelling monger experience. So I'm not sure if your question is about locals to Jaco or locals in the sense of Costa Rician.
I can say that it's not too different in the Philippines, Thailand or Malaysia. The girls also show or leave their ID at the front desk/security guard which does serve to protect the customer and the provider from problems or at least provides an identity for the police to go looking for. I'd also add that, at least in my experience in the Philipines, you are expected to check the guest in with the front desk regardless of the purpose of the visit so it's not entirely about sex.
Costa Rica is prosperous but most Ticos don't have the money to partake at the rate of $150/hr. It's basically sex tourism, although there are also gringo expats who live there with their Tica LTRs.
As long as everyone is happy....
The average salary in most Latin American countries is like 10K. That comes out to $5 an hour. Even if they have to give half to the house $60-$75 an hour take home.
The average American makes about 60K, or around $30 an hour. Latin hourly rate is 6X less so if you calculate out 6X more of $150=$900. If half would be given to the house that would be $450. When I worked at a legal brothel in NV we charged 1K an hour so I received $500, so this tracks as comparable.
When someone starts their post with 10:30 PM - 11:30 PM... I am expecting a wee bit more.. LOL
That being said decriminalization is better than Legalization. There are plenty of laws on the books to hold people accountable. But all the unnecessary bureaucracy should be avoided and people should be left alone, so they can mind their own business.
GOOD IDEA
# 1: Legalize Prostitution First.
# 2: Give the Providers/Prostitution/Escorts a ID Card (To present to their doctors every 3 to 6 months so the
State/Federal people can keep track of the Escort's/Provider's/Prostitution's doctor visits).
# 3: The Escort/Provider/Prostitute gets to make $$$$ & still pay into their taxes as they always have. Plus have
their own business.
Legalizing something usually means also imposing a lot of government regulation, including special taxes. Decriminalizing simply means removing laws that make something criminal.
And notice that removing the laws that make sex-for-pay criminal does not remove the laws that make actually harmful things criminal, so rape/child sex/extortion/slavery/trafficking/etc. would still be criminal, and public danger would not increase.
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Opponents of decrim fail to notice that. Or ostentatiously refuse to notice that!
you can't legalize discrimination.
Maybe, but notice that what we call "discrimination" (including outright slavery) was the law of the land here for a century or more.
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So please say more about why "you can't legalize discrimination" now?
I claim no special knowledge on the subject, but here is my opinion: by making it legal, it prevents anyone & anything from exploiting the provider on a pretext.
That should be reason enough, in addition from unburdening hotel staff from having to respond to complaints 