What does everyone think about drinking alcohol on a date with a provider?   How much is too much, what are the dangers & pitfalls (apart from the obvious ones you have when it comes to drinking on "normal" non-p4p dates?

(Note:  I'm obviously not talking about a 1 hour session or even 2 hour, where the obvious point is to get off sexually and NOT to actually enjoy each other's company outside of orgasmic bliss)

Firstly, as a client when you are with a provider for the first date, or perhaps second or third where you still are in the "getting to know you phase", I would think you'd want to limit yourself to 1 or (max) 2 drinks per hour so that you don't damage your image/standing in your provider's eyes by doing something absurd while intoxicated.....plus, since you still don't quite know each other well, you wouldn't want to put yourself at risk by getting drunk with a "stranger", so to speak.

As a provider, I would think it's always in your ultimate BEST interest to keep your faculties clear with all but the most trusted, long term clients....first date, second, 11th, etc.   Of course, some will say that the ability and willingness to "get tipsy" with a client is indication that the provider really likes and trusts and feels safe with you.......?

Having said all that, I used to drink when I wore "a younger man's clothes" and drove a "younger man's wheel-chariot"....I was often guilty of "W(heeling) W(hile) I(ntoxicated)" lol       But I quit when I was around 40, in 2007.    I sometimes miss the stuff but overall, not so much....I have a few amusing anecdotes from when I did drink....

In 1992, after moving to Newport Beach California to start my first job after College, one Saturday Afternoon I was ravenously hungry after a midday "party", I went to the Jack-In_the_box right off the 55 Freeway ramp.  Someone had chained their bike to the handicap access ramp, and I could not get in to get my burger fix....so, being the innovative & bold "handicapable" man that I am.....I decided to use the DRIVE_THRU......except I was not heavy enough to set off the weight sensor they used back then (they didn't have a camera then either).  Not to be defeated, I asked a guy driving by in a small pickup to help...I explained in reasonably coherent language what I was trying to do, and after some chuckles and shaking his head, the guy agreed to help me by simply  driving on and then off quickly the area with the sensor.    

When the voice squawked, "Welcome to Jack in the crack, can I help you?".....I ordered a Jumbo Jack and a water and rolled around to the window to pay and get my food.....when I arrived, the guy looked at me, looked around clearly perplexed and said "Uh, sir, the entrance to the store is over there...."     I said, "yeah no shit, except some pinhead parked his bike there, which you can't see from your position..."    The guy stared at me for about 30 seconds and finally said, "what will you have?"    I said  "I ALREADY ORDERED!   here..."  I gave him my money and he says  "You ordered a Jumbo Jack?"       "YESssssss!!!"  I exasperatingly yelled......"And a water!"       "Oh...ok......here ya go...."      As I rolled away, I threatened  "next time I'm suing......"

Another time, again In Newport a year or so later, after a night drinking, myself and two roomies went clubbing locally and found four girls willing to come back to our apartment and BBQ with us......one of them flirted with me (she wasn't seriously interested in me but seemed to like my sense of humor) and playfully sat in my lap and let me wheel around and pop wheelies.....I am hard of hearing so I asked her several times  'What's your name sweetheart?"  and she would tell me  ..... anyway after more alcohol and a couple fun filled hours, the girl is again on my lap when the phone rings (they had been calling their friends to come over for our impromptu party)....I answered the phone, with the girl still on my lap....The voice on the phone, a GUY, abruptly asks me  "I need to talk to BETH, right now..."    I said  "WHo?!?"    "I need to speak with BETH NOW!"    I ask again  "I'm sorry what did you say?"......."Let me TALK TO BETH!!"  The music is blaring and a lot of noise....

I put the receiver down for a moment, with the girl still in my lap....I'm frustrated and yelled to the people in the room....."WHO THE HELL IS BETH!?!?!?"

The girls sitting in my lap smacks my head in the back....."I'M BETH!!!!"

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But, man, you DO go on. So just a bit of advice before I try to answer your question: beware of revealing too much personal info here. Maybe you have little or nothing to lose, and, if so, that's fine.
As for drinking, I would worry about it only to the extent it gets in the way of your (or her) sexual performance. I assumed it would for me so I mostly abstained. Then when I was wintering in Costa Rica the sex was so cheap ($120/hour) I decided to experiment. I found I could drink moderately before sex and still perform.
But if I were paying $1000/hour I wouldn't risk it.

You need to try to shorten your posts here. I know you like to blab, but the length is going to turn a lot of people off. Lengthier can be okay in the replies section, you just don’t want to lead a post with so many words. Initial posts are best if short and to the point. You will get more responses.

 
I honestly didn’t read the whole thing and will respond to the drinking question. I think 1-2 casual drinks on a lengthier date are fine. But TBH, it would be good to ask the lady you’re seeing. If she says she will not drink but you can, you might not want to because you two will have different vibes. Or maybe you don’t mind that? Me personally, I would. She also might tell you she does mind, which in that case you have been warned. It will certainly change her mood. Just my thoughts.

I cant read extremely long posts as I just skim over them but I am not telling you how to post...just a suggestion. As for the drinking, some of my best times were when the lady and I overindulged a bit. The downside for me, in one particular case was making sure the girl got home safely, as that is always a worry for me, especially doing outcall obviously.

(as in lost any interest I might have in your lengthy post) at “(Note:  I'm obviously not talking about a 1 hour session or even 2 hour, where the obvious point is to get off sexually and NOT to actually enjoy each other's company outside of orgasmic bliss)”.

 
I do like to enjoy a woman’s company beyond orgasmic bliss, even if seeing her for 2 hours or less. I favor 2 hour sessions as they allow for lots of time for other kinds of enjoyment, including liquid refreshment sometimes. Since most of my sessions are in the morning, the liquid refreshment doesn’t usually involve alcohol, but over the years I’ve enjoyed sharing that kind of libation with providers if they’re in the mood for that.

I’ll typically ask a provider what type of wine she prefers and bring a bottle for the visit.  If she replies that she doesn’t drink alcohol, my routine is to have two drinks before a date.  I think it makes me last longer.. it’s rare for me to have more than one pop on a 60-90 min date, so it allows me to savor the one a bit longer.

Sorry, I didn't really consider how my words sounded beyond my own head/thinking, didn't mean to offend.  

unless I'm fairly certain that I am her last appointment of the day, which means if I book a mid-day appointment, there will be no alcohol.  I do this partly out of respect for fellow mongers who may be booking her for a session AFTER mine.  

 
At the same time, I will not stay if I arrive for a session with a provider who is visibly high or drunk because I have legal concerns about having sex with a woman who is not fully cognizant of who I am and why I'm there.  With that said, if they wait until I arrive and we start drinking together, I will partake, but not if they started without me and appear to be already impaired.  

I used to drink a lot during sessions back in my 20’s because I had several private incalls designed to entertain. In my 30’s I got rid of all my incalls & created my tribe. I only saw a few regulars & occasionally I would get a hotel room to entertain, so drinking a bottle of champagne during a two hour date helps relax. I stay hydrated by drinking lots of water. I have it on my website Fiji water because it’s essential during energy exchange.  

I am responsible & learned lessons in life. I drink responsibly. My family member got a DUI it changes everything. I blow by choice to see if I am good. I never want to risk hurting myself, or anyone else. Now, I have nurse a few overnight dates who had hangovers in the morning because they did not take my advice in drinking water. 💦 I try to drink 2 cups of water for everyone 1 alcoholic beverage. I am a professional woman of leisure.

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but have to admit that one gal I saw drank vodka liberally before and during our date, and despite (or perhaps because of) that was a very quality provider and she became a regular of mine for many years before she moved away.

 
Other gals offer a drink of wine now and then, but that's no big deal.

 
Some gals are pretty much sober during the date, but sometimes if we go out and dine afterwards, they over do it on the liquor with variable results ranging from a bit sloppy to "Let me explain officer."  (Was not a fun ending to the night.)

 
Though a bit off topic, I have to bemoan the wreck of about half a dozen great relationships that I had to extricate myself from on account of the provider's excessive drinking.   On the other hand, I can't think of any problems I've seen owing to illegal substances.    For all society's brew-ha-ha about drug use, it's booze that still creates most of the substance abuse problems, and not just in my hobby life either.   I have seen several people over the years go down the drain in my business.

If you don't want to read something....don't.    

I write fast, the words just flow...it was an integral part of my career, churning out information fast....I also enjoy it.

I am DEFINITELY NOT trying to exasperate or annoy anyone...I honestly thought my post(s) had entertainment value, as well as power to spark others to post their own missives....Obviously in some individuals' opinions, I am missing the mark somehow....for that I am disappointed.  But I'm pretty confident there are a few people who enjoy reading my posts....

I myself absolutely DO NOT read every single post here (wouldn't be possible and still have a life...)....I don't feel the need to tell those posters that I won't be reading their posts.   In fact I would never tell ANYONE here anything critical or negative about what (and how) they post unless they specifically solicited my opinion.

I very much have enjoyed my short time here so far, and I respect each and everyone of the posters here....I didn't say "agree with", I said respect....

However, I will try to economize on the verbiage in future posts, I am sure there is room for brevity in my writte emissions.....

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I only read the first sentence for which my response would be for both parties to remain sober, especially at their first meeting. It's kind of demeaning/insulting if the other party has to get high/drunk in order to endure your company.

I am not saying you are wrong bc it is your opinion. For many men, this lifestyle really stresses them out as they may not have had a ton of RW experiences with women; maybe even none. Meeting a p4p girl can be very intimidating for some men. So I wouldn't necessarily view it as them having to be inebriated to "endure" your company. I would view it more like they need to have some mind altering chemical to deal with the anxiety and stress, which, in some cases, can be formidable.  
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That being said, I am not condoning being high or drunk during a first meeting. But we are all human and sometimes we make poor decisions, especially when it comes to intimate liaisons with strangers of the opposite sex.

When meeting a new provider, I think it is prudent to remain sober, since you may have been deceived and need to have your wits about you to avoid a regrettable situation.

I totally agree. I was just giving you a reason why some men may fall short of that ideal. Personally, I never drink unless the provider is drinking with me and I haven't over indulged with a women until we get to know each other and trust is built.

When I started in the hobby, I visited one provider several times.  She had a thing for White Claws, but I preferred Mai Tais.  So, on our first few dates I'd bring one or the other.  My first meeting with her, which was earlier in the day, went well.  My second meeting with her, which was later in the evening, it became clear that she'd already consumed several White Claws.  At my third meeting with her, she was completely hammered and predictably, the date did not go well.  So much so, that I was worried about whether she had a problem with alcohol.

 
I've developed the practice of asking every provider whether they want me to bring anything to our meeting.  If they ask for alcohol, I'll bring one bottle of champagne (and maybe some orange juice).  The one bottle rule seems festive enough, but with both of us drinking, it's not enough to seriously impair anyone.

Just saw another medical report that pot enhances female orgasms.

A drunk. Scare the hell out of me to be in America and be drunk  anytime, anywhere.

I like to break the ice or catch up with a bottle of wine or champagne, which by the way, often goes unfinished. I have known providers who had alcohol issues, but never experienced it firsthand. Having drunk sex has never appealed to me even when dating as a youngster long before I started seeing providers.