More power to you.

Try the angle and let us know.

On the other hand, SB you may be able to. One of the advantages of having a SB.

It's not easy.

 
I used to think it would be fun and economical to let salespeople take me to lunch where I work.   Boy, was I wrong, at least about the fun part.    Now I bring a lunch with me most days, thank you.

bear in mind she's not earning a penny during the whole time.  And, as fish-dude said, she's got to be "on" the whole time...made up, dressed the way you like, pretending you're the coolest clown in the room, etc.
For my money, there's NO ONE on the planet I want to be with for a solid week.  I'd rather have variety, sleep by myself, wake up alone and go prowling for pussy. But if she's going to put up with your farting and snoring she should get paid. However, feel free to negotiate the rate.

You're going on a trip with your ATF because you've enjoyed time with each other and have great chemistry.  So you're traveling with a provider for that - chemistry filled companionship.  

Chemistry isn't just about what happens behind closed doors. Chemistry is about conversations and having a good time. And that's what you're paying for.  

A lot of people think it is a lot of verbiage when we say we are selling "an experience", but is REALLY is what we're selling.  

Fun conversations, stress free companionship, flirting and romance without any expectations, looking and being our best through it all.  

That takes effort for ANY human. Providers ask for money to be fairly compensated for all that effort.  

When you put all that extra effort in YOUR job, don't you like being compensated with bonuses and promotions as well? It's the same concept. All of us like being recognized and fairly compensated for our efforts.

"airfare, room, meals, massages and some shopping." are Not Enough
for me to stop thinking about:
Mortgage
Car payment
Electric
Telephone
Insurance
School Loan
Hair/ Nails/ teeth cleaning
Time Off of work
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Not to mention the mental and physical labor of being the entertainment for _____amount of days.  

Are you telling me there are no escorts in Hawaii ?  
    Go to the Hawaii page on this very web site, find one, make it with  her once a day at her rack rate, she will think you're the best guy ever. Spend the rest of the day doing what you want, I bet you come out big money ahead.

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If you are really having that much trouble finding someone to go on a "first class trip" with you without charging you full rack rate perhaps you aren't as charming, witty, or as easy to be around as you might think?

 
There is another way to look at it, when you are paying full rate, you are paying her to be "on" during the whole trip, the less you pay her the less obligated she will feel to be "on" during your time together. Are you ready for the "real" woman behind the hooker persona? If not, you might rethink your idea about not paying.

 
For the record one of the very worst trips I have ever taken was a ten day trip to Hawaii with a hooker. Said hooker was my GF at the time and of course I only paid for expenses, but it was a fucking miserable trip, I found myself wishing I had paid her, if I had been paying her I would have felt justified putting her on the next plane back to the mainland and enjoying the rest of the trip alone (well, more like with some local company), but instead I suffered through the entire ordeal like some married schmuck on vacation with his shrew wife.

 
If getting a huge discount really is your goal, and you don't mind taking a risk that the trip might be a bust, you might try a "sugar site" You can almost certainly find some "non pro" young thing who will jump at the chance for a free trip to Hawaii, but you run the risk that you and her might not be compatible and you'll end up stuck with someone you'll find out that you can't stand.

Think of all the money they could make if not in Hawaii...vacations are nice but it's not a vacation for us. It's still work and ladies have to earn a living, bills can't get paid with fancy trips. Hawaii also isn't cheap so she will definitely have to come out of pocket at some point. Because really who wants to ask "Daddy" for some spending cash???

I know some ladies offfer packages for trip so your not paying a crazy fee everyday...but at least find a lady your willing to drop some coin on and have fun. Being tight won't get you very far on "vacation" and may just make your trip suck. I went last year with a sugar daddy type and god knows I would have done things a little differently. I felt stranded and dependent most of the time while there.  Trust me when I say it would be worth every penny to find a good girl and pay her rate.  

Even if your the most amazing man in the world....it all costs us something to eat and live. Expecting someone to do so free is silly.

I thought about this and I’d be curious for the ladies’ opinions on this idea. Offer to fly the lady out and pay for her to have her own room. Set up a schedule (not sure how much is reasonable) where you spend some time together do some meals together, but otherwise the ladies’ time is hers to do what she wants with.  Hell, she could even set up a touring schedule.  
If this were a place the lady wants to go to anyway, then maybe you could work out an engagement like this. But I would think she’d have to like you, it would have to be a desirable location and her financial situation would have to be such she could afford to not make money for a week (unless she toured).  
I think this would allow you to save some money as she might not charge the full rate for this set up. It’s probably not what some people have in mind, but for me, I have a hard time thinking I would want to spend a week straight with anyone. Because it’s hard for the provider to be “on” for a week, but I imagine it would be hard for me to be “on” all the time too.  
Or just go by yourself and see locals. But then you’re gambling with someone new.

Plus the few hours before, plus transfer to hotel? With someone you really don't know.

If your lady has vacation time scheduled and wants to go to Hawaii, maybe she would give a break.  Or, if you allowed her to work from your room while you are not BCD with her, nah probably not.

One of my favorite Phoenix heauxs, moved to Hawaii earlier this year. So, I would look her up and play as often as she was available.
 Personally, unless I am really comfortable with the lady, and found that out from spending a lot of outside the bedroom time,  wouldn't go on a trip with someone. No matter what she wanted as compensation.  

If your lady is experienced at these kind of travel dates, then you have a head start on a good time.

get a girlfriend or better yet, take your wife LOL!  

Men that have to think about it 2 times... don't really should do it bc they definitely don't have the funds to do so.

Hawaii  😎

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Thanks to all of you for this advice. It's helpful. I agree with some. Of course, I'd only go on vacation with someone I had a lot of experience with. As for "getting a girlfriend", I'm paying for the freedom of not having one. There is no free lunch in dating either. If it's not money, it's emotional commitment.

Because airfare, dinners, and sitting on a beach doesn't pay my bills. It's a nice gesture but I would rather do an overnight in my city and be paid my rate. You're asking us to do our job and not be compensated in the manner we prefer, and to leave behind potential appointments that are paying our rate. It's like if you went to work and they offered to pay you in restaurant giftcards- it's still compensation but not what you'd like. That being said there are women who do do this and I would *consider* it with a very, very good regular but I would still expect a portion of my donation.

Even with ladies you’ve demonstrated multiple times with a first class flight, 5 star hotel, massage, meals, entertainment and gifts; they’re going want to still get paid. Despite comments on how much they enjoyed being with you and appreciated it.

Best you can hope for is a price break or more time. 12hr overnight is little time when they require 6+ hrs of sleep. Might find a place they want to stay after for personal travel or a tour to create more incentive and reduce risk of them missing flights or canceling.  

Regardless of how great of a trip you may think it is, they may consider it work time away from personal time. If it works, it’s great. However don’t expect everyone to be so excited that it’s free or that they will put in extra effort. I’ve had ladies who cancelled last minute, missed flights (their fault), avoid playtime, or don’t even bother with a thanks after. Good luck.

I agree with you (provider here!)

I love to travel and go on trips with clients usually once or twice a month. Recent trips include Las Vegas, Napa Valley, San José and a South Dakota camping trip. My per day gift request is very low compared to other providers (Probably the lowest, actually!) The gents I travel with request bedroom playtime once, maybe twice per day. Otherwise we are enjoying interesting museums, going hiking, relaxing in the pool, winery tours, and eating at lots of amazing restaurants. I know that you are already spending lots of money on me, I am not going to be that greedy!  LOL  
This is my job, yes, but I would never want anyone to go broke having a fun vacation with a pretty and smart gal. (Me!) So, yes, I think some of the per day vacation requests are over the top. So.... look me up, shoot me a message. Let's travel!!!  

Xoxo
Scarlet

pretty intense and just plain old fun. Despite all the negative comments on this thread, noone has pointed out the positive. Which are many. I had a very rewarding relationship with someone I met here which was strictly travel based as we were on separate coasts.  The only way to meet was to fly to each other or meet in the middle where he was doing business. He set the tone, told me where to be and when and I was there. I will say this was a special circumstance and I haven't had a relationship like this since but I would definitely entertain it again. I do know it can only work if it works for "both" of you in however you define that and if you both sincerely enjoy each other's company immensely. Which we did.  

Anyhow, happy turkey day!

Try thinking this through from another point of view - yours.  

Let's say you are a lawyer, or an accountant and have a long-term and friendly client. Let's call him Bob.   You have been providing professional services to Bob for 2 years and you always enjoy your time with him.  You share similar politics, food & beverage preferences, and know that he is good at what he does and your services make him even more successful due to the expertise and execution you deliver.  

Bob wants to go to Boise, Idaho for a potato convention. He just loves potatoes; fried, boiled, baked, crisps/chips, soups & stews, mashed, or whatever. He's planning a 3 day trip to explore all things potato and may even consider setting up a regular potato-circuit tour schedule in the near future.  Bob asks you to come with him, all expenses paid. Several time during the trip, without prior notice, Bob will ask you to leverage your professional skills in evaluating various potatoes, in tasting them, deciding if potato-related businesses are a good investment and of course in finding the best potatoes to take home as souvenirs of the trip.  Bob will not pay your for your professional services, instead offering you 1st class accommodations at the Boise Motel 6, plus all the "pom frites" and ketchup you can eat.  

If you go with him, you will need to cancel or delay client meetings with Steve, who does real estate, Marv, who invests in digital currencies, and Sam who just likes sucking your dick while you gargle the Star Spangled Banner on his balls. All of these meetings will generate fee collections three or more times what Bob pays for his usual services.  

You going to Boise, or you going to gargle those juicy Sam-balls?  

I think we all know that you're going to be rinsing the taste of gargled ball sweat out of your mouth while you deposit those bitcoins into your mortgage payment account.

Many good points of view. I appreciate the inputs from all. Since I've never even considered an overnight because it seems a waste to have someone watch me sleep, I thought of this differently. I think the "sugar baby" route might have some merit. Btw, do any of you think the $500-$1000 providers are busy every day?

I'd say don't do it...

I traveled with a potential ATF a couple of times, that I'd had great times with previously. Then I travel with her and get a complete waste of time and money, always claimed "S.H.E" was sick when going to good locations.

Needless to say I have moved on...!