Alot of grandmas are dying and alot of cars are breaking down. When I've spoken with other providers about this, they have suggested deposits, yet in worried requiring deposits will kill my business. What do you hobbyists/fellow provider's think? If you dont think thats a good system, any other ideas on how to handle people constantly cancelling and rescheduling at the last minute? (Usually overly enthusiastic newbies who book multi hours once reality sets in that they will have to depart with a large sum of money). If no deposits, what do you recommend?
This system of crossing my fingers and praying it doesnt happen is starting to get to be financially unsustainable, i get that life happens and up to a point i need to be understanding, but its really hurting my bottom line, i turn away too many would bes only to be bailed on at the last minute. Do i double book and risk pissing people off? Do i ditch the appt system and do first come first serve? Advice please! I suffered huge financial losses today from excessive last minute cancellations-- Modified on 9/25/2017 2:03:56 PM
But requiring them from proven flakes OR on dates where you have to either block off big chunks of your time or where you have to lay out money out of pocket "just for them" is certainly an accepted practice.
It sounds like you may need to do a better job of screening if the problem is getting to be THAT bad. If a guy has followed through on his last three appointments without a hitch, you should be able to believe with a decent degree of confidence that he will show up for his appointment with you.
When you say people are "constantly" cancelling or rescheduling, do you mean the same people over and over again, or that everyone is doing this to you? If it's the same people, that's easy to solve, require a substantial deposit from anyone who flakes out on you at the last minute to ever consider rebooking with them. If "everybody" is doing this to you, either you are just experiencing a bad run of luck or you need to look inward for your answers. It's the same advice I give when a guy keeps getting NCNS'd by "well reviewed" providers, it's more likely to be his own fault than anyone else's.
Its mostly just today, having terrible luck today
some guys book appointments and have no intention of keeping them. Its often NOT that reality set in AFTE R the fact. They're just screwing with you. I think the fact that they are Newbies should make you suspicious. Most, like me, will book an hour, or two hours if the girl was recommended by a trusted hobby friend or another provider. I would never book more than two hours with a new girl I haven't seen before.
With that said, I know a few guys that don't bat an eye about booking a weekend with a new girl for ten or twelve thousand dollars, but these guys are so rich they can afford to walk out after the first hour if its not a good fit for them and write off the balance of the money as a learning experience. I don't think there is anything wrong with asking for a deposit from guys you don't know that are booking MORE than two hours right out of the gate. Judging from the hooker websites, all you have to sell is your "time and companionship" (it seems the pussy is free - lol), so you are justified, IMO, to have some limits on how much risk you're willing to take in reserving that time for someone before they should share some of the risk by giving a deposit.
who had just eaten my cell phone that had the gal's address and phone number in it.
Yet, I still somehow managed to show up on time for my date all bright eyed and bushy tailed.
So, as the saying goes, excuses are like assholes. Everyone has one.
As a slight countermeasure, you might want to put on your site that last minute (24 hours?) cancellation are subject to a $100 fee payable before you'll schedule another appointment. At least you might get something back and screen out the serious from the non-serious goombahs.
At $250/hr how huge could it be, unless you really line them up with just a moist towelette in between.
Here's my advice: cultivate regulars. If you can't do that, find another line of business or learn to deal with your current client base.
Multi hour appts, turned away several others.
Is that there are only two ways to increase your business: 1) get more customers, or 2) get more business from the customers you have. The life-blood of any business, not just hooking, is repeat business. Its far less time-consuming and less expensive to get more business from your regulars/existing customers than it is to solicit new customers. The most successful ladies have a cadre of regulars that they can count on for a certain minimum income level, give or take. If you're depending on ALL business coming from new customers, then you are starting out each month not having a clue if you will make your expenses or not. Even at a $250 rate, if you have twenty regulars seeing you twice a month, you have created a "floor" of $5000, which puts you under less stress and pressure to reach the rest of your goal using new customers. If you have a hard time keeping regulars, then perhaps you should consider that this business is not a good fit for you. Just my opinion.
I require deposits on case by case basic... if they have history of NCNS, if they have reports of being flake. Also for dates that are more than 6 hours. (overnights & weekend trips).
Like I said, it all depends on your screening, the people you choose to see. I don't do the "whitelist and TER ID only".
I am pretty pain in the butt with my screening so the people I see, are truly gentleman and so far (knock on wood) never had an issue, if I had a cancelation; they are aware of my cancelation policy and they know they have to take care of it. Never had an issue with the cancelation payment either...
I am very low volume (only see one person a day) so for me a cancelation means a lot and it is extremely inconvenient.
to ask for deposit if the appt is for more than one hour that is. The higher the stake the more financial risk you run so some sort of insurance is understandable. The kind of client who can afford multiple hour appt. can certainly afford some deposit. OTH for one hour or less no deposit should be required.
Sounds like you just had a bad day and it's not like it's a chronic problem. Just like any business occasionally there's a bad day and the business lose some money. That's normal.
Works better for me just to incorporate a cancelation fee. A cancelation fee, I most certainly have and still do, ESPECIALLY if it's same day cancelation. I do however, deduct that from the rendezvous once we actually do meet.
Hope this helps and sorry you had to go through the loss of money I'm sure you needed! Life happens though and I try my best to accommodate without fucking myself over 😚
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for a 1 or 2-hr. date. I can understand 3 or more hours but not for any time less than that. Got burned once years ago and said to myself--never again.
I do know some ladies who charge a deposit for a 1-hr. date IF the hobbyist has already cancelled on her or tried to play the re-schedule game. That is totally understandable. IMHO, once a hobbyist fails to meet his commitment, then it is on him to make it right.
Deposits will definitely weed out the time wasters. I love it because It makes sure that the gent is serious and not someone fantasizing about meeting and then at the last minute stops replying to text , calls and disappears off the earth. I use deposits especially for out of state tours for pre-booking or bookings where I travel far for an outcall. There are ladies who worry about deposits killing their business. My logic on it is, the clients you may be loosing aren't in comparison to the incredible ones you gain. There's nothing better than a gent who understands and respects your booking protocol. It's very simple.
At the end of the day, providers lose money when time is reserved for someone who doesn't show up. A deposit will not be the full cost of your encounter but it's something versus nothing. A cancellation policy will take care of everything if the gent is an actual gent and not a slob.
Try to get in contact with ladies who actually use deposits to get their view. Don't get hung up on "loosing clients" as you loose more with cancellations from men who don't respect your time. Also for the most part, gents who say don't do deposits... I wouldn't mind them either lol. It's your body, your rules. Implement whatever protocol you want. If a guy wants to see you, he'll follow your rules. Get certain advice from fellow ladies not men on this board. They're archaic and misogynistic for the most part.
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Men or noobs. You are still quite the disaster I see. Telling this girl to ask for deposits is like telling a passenger on the Titanic to grab a glass of ice water before they jump ship.
And btw, JFSF should drop by soon as his buddy Conan will need a chat about your atrocious spelling. Hint: you are "loosing" this argument, as you do with all the others as well.
First, never book a multi-hour date with someone you haven't seen before. I have seen where some ladies require a 90min date for new clients and I get that. Just not 3 -4 hours.
Second, double book (say a half-hour later) all new clients..yes you will lose some but hey. If the first guy shows up then either cancel the second or say you are "running late" and move it.
Third, treat your established reliable clients like gold, even if you have to cancel a new client now and then to see them when they are available. Repeat business is always the most stable.
Fourth. Deposits should only be asked for for overnights, weekends, or trips especially if you have to travel to get there.
day of or last minute appts are up to you, just keep in mind that doing these or book in advance are not necessarily mutually exclusive. I think some girls charge a little extra for last minute appts. Gotta do what you gotta do to keep the lights on.