I SAID mine was a guess. You're trying to pass yours off as a legit explanation when you have no experience and don't know what you're talking about. I have a few guys like that who work for me. They're called millennials, and like you, they talk a lot but don't know shit.
It always confuses me the number of men that I see looking for a provider to peg them. Why not just cut out the middle (wo)man and go right to the trans girl. That shits strapless Boys 😂😂, an we know what we're doing with it.
Is there a significant difference that is holding that up?
to some guys that a TS does. Whay you claim makes sense but it's all semantics.
I mean even done not get it. Either case dude is still getting fucked. So if it's about perceptions of what it means, that kind of breaks down the moment something goes in your ass, as that gendered/masculine expectation is already being transgressed and subverted.
Does that make be any less feminine? Um no. IMO ass play isn't gender specific. Some people dig it, others don't. Both genders have assholes, but GGs are born with vaginas and genetically born males have penises. Those are gender specific sex organs.
So to me it's really not hard to figure out why some men like ass play/anal penetration with GGs but have no interest in doing so with TS gals. It's an attraction thing.
Steph
I think you're onto something. I would have no desire to be given a HJ by a male provider, for instance, despite the fact that if closed my eyes I probably couldn't tell the difference. (Discounting for the moment things like scent and hand strength.) I want to have sex with women, not men/TS's.
That, plus not all penetrations are equal, so to speak. A guy who wants a dildo up his ass doesn't necessarily want a dick up there. Not any more than lesbians who regularly use dildos ever want a dick near them.
We're not all polymorphous perverts.
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It only involves YOUR dick, not the other person's. Its apples and oranges.
It is different, but the analogy I was going for might be expressed as "a hand is a hand," much like a dildo and a dick are both dick-shaped hard objects to stick up your butt.
Which admittedly goes past your main point, which is the "real thing" point. But what I was getting at is that I don't think heterosexual men avoid HJs from men because they're substantially different from female HJs. They do so because they're not sexually attracted to men and don't want them touching their junk.
with GG are being honest about whether they're enjoying anal play with a TS or even another guy for that matter. And while your sampling of experiences with men is much broader than mine, I also wouldn't assume you can speak for all men, like the 10s of thousands that don't post to TER or other boards where they might want their "privacy" protected.
And I used he word "some" not all.
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or would I try to. Stop being such a piss ant. Basically when you posted further down that some men want anal play/penetration, or whatever the hell. they want a pussy attached to it is what I was saying. Thanks so much for making my point.
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Btw
.. calling me a piss ant LMFAO very classy Steph. I'll try to be more careful when you're online. 💔
Why, are you gonna block me? Again. LMAO
Act like a MATURE gfe ... and I guess you "got me" since I helped you "make your point." You sound like a fucking 6 year old ... words from a favorite song of mine ... you always know who your friends are.
At least I didn't get some long drawn out PM off topic message this time. Notice I didn't share the details! 
Steph xoxo
and one of mine was, I thought you were open to Trannies, weren't you one of "O's" staunchest supporters a while back? You were one of her clients, weren't you?
I am not judging, we all have our personal biases where it comes to Tranny's and ass play in general.
Personally, I would say on a 1-10 "gay scale" getting fucked in the ass by a dude is an 11. Getting fucked in the ass by a Tranny is a 6 and getting fucked in the ass by a girl wearing a strap on is maybe a 3.
and yes, I pulled these numbers...., you guessed it, "right out of my ass" lol
Going one step further with your statement, I think a lot of guys who are "gay" or "curious" are not only dishonest to others about it, but often aren't even honest with themselves at times. Either way, it is what it is and unlike our "Angry Tranny" the OP, I am not going to waste a lot of my time dwelling on it. This is one of those questions that doesn't have a "right or wrong" answer.
You're such an douche ... lol. I'm beginning to think you need a date with the OP.
As for "O", you can use the term supporter. I'm cool with that. She was as much a friend and neighbor (lucky me!). The distinction was that she didn't have a cock and I didn't see her, nor would I have, when she had one.
And much like you, but maybe not so much as some of the ladies here, I could care less what anyone thinks about me.
Btw, I'd see her today if she called. Tomorrow too, if she had time on her schedule. And right or wrong, she was one of the BEST providers ANYONE could possibly see. And there's still about 500 guys who feel the same.
You would have liked her. A lot. And often. You can say No, but I know otherwise. You're a glutton. Like me. Your pockets are just a wee bit deeper ... ciao
anyone who could put Asscalade in his place like she did was alright in my book.
But she is/was not only a liar, but a vicious, selfish, vindictive liar at that and my opinion of her changed 180 degrees, not because of her sexuality, but because of her words, her dishonesty and her actions. Quite frankly she is NOT a very nice person, having a y chromosome has nothing to do with it.
As for the OP, she is the poster child for "Angry Tranny" I have had a couple of trannies who were friends IRL, one of them one of the very best friends of an ex GF who went on casino trips with us all the time, but I can never see myself being friends or anything else with the OP, she takes herself much too seriously and is far too angry to be a lot of fun to be around. TS Sasha OTOH, yeah her and I could hang out, and probably have a lot of laughs together, unlike the OP, she uses humor to get through life, not anger, a much more attractive quality in a person, wouldn't you agree?
As for the OP, don't know anything about him/her.
I guess I'm a bit different that many here IN THAT I usually ignore posters that I don't find interesting or might not be someone who's company I believe I might enjoy.
I say this because some dumbasses keep posting because guys like you(not judging and you know that) feed the animals. So they come back. I generally stay away, but not ALWAYS. I know I need to make the always/every guy/gal distinction before the next laugh track rolls out.
BUT MY FEELZ😩 Pretty much. 🙄
anyone who could put Asscalade in his place like she did was alright in my book.
But she is/was not only a liar, but a vicious, selfish, vindictive liar at that and my opinion of her changed 180 degrees, not because of her sexuality, but because of her words, her dishonesty and her actions. Quite frankly she is NOT a very nice person, having a y chromosome has nothing to do with it.
As for the OP, she is the poster child for "Angry Tranny" I have had a couple of trannies who were friends IRL, one of them one of the very best friends of an ex GF who went on casino trips with us all the time, but I can never see myself being friends or anything else with the OP, she takes herself much too seriously and is far too angry to be a lot of fun to be around. TS Sasha OTOH, yeah her and I could hang out, and probably have a lot of laughs together, unlike the OP, she uses humor to get through life, not anger, a much more attractive quality in a person, wouldn't you agree?
for years, every time an ISO goes up for a strap-on girl. I suggest just going with the real thing if they want to get fucked in the ass, and not one guy has ever given me a reason why it has to be a woman with a fake dick when there are TS providers that can supply them with the real experience.
If there are any guys who are into strap-on play, this is a great time to explain why you would prefer plastic over the real thing if that's what you're into. My guess has always been that it somehow makes you fell less queer. Do I have it wrong?
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I've never done it, so I wouldn't know. But don't you think it's possible guys aren't interested in synthesizing the feeling of a dick up their ass, and more in just stimulating their ass with a hard object to feel pleasure from a woman?
Which they could get from a man, but they could also get a BJ or HJ from a man, too. They choose to get it from a woman instead because they're not sexually attracted to men or chicks with dicks.
Of course, dildos are made up to look like a real dick, and if a guy is particular on the realism point, maybe he should just try an actual dick. However, for most of them, your "real thing" sounds to me like asking why people who act out rape fantasies don't go ahead and actually get raped. (If it's possible to voluntarily get raped.)
That's not the fantasy. Guys who get the strap-on treatment from women don't actually want to experience a dicking, usually. They're not after what you have as the "real thing."
You said you've never done it doesn't mean shit because you're just speculating. I'd like yo hear the reasons from a guy who HAS done it.
If each means shit, what's the difference? It's just the internet.
I SAID mine was a guess. You're trying to pass yours off as a legit explanation when you have no experience and don't know what you're talking about. I have a few guys like that who work for me. They're called millennials, and like you, they talk a lot but don't know shit.
you'll see I said "so I wouldn't know." It was in the first sentence I typed. I was about as upfront about my ignorance as possible without putting it in the subject line.
I see no evidence that you know any more on the subject than I do, yet you don't let it stop you from posting.
I'm from Generation X. Still, allow me to tell you to get back on your porch, grandpa.
to being a one-girl-a-month hooker expert . . . . in Moose Turd, Minnesota of all places. Like you're really going to learn anything there. This "Grandpa" is fucking three or four different 30 yo girls a week. You only wish you were in the shape I'm in.
We're two drinks behind you here in California.
Everybody is at least two drinks behind me. No matter where they are.
then making a whole other post apologizing for it?
You are still well within the edit window. Next time simply go to "edit my post" delete the subject line and replace it with "delete" and delete anything that might be in th body (in this case, nothing.)
Once the edit window is gone, click on "report this post" and ask admin to delete it.
I have not seen edit this post in the new format. I did report the post, but sometimes the mod is not waiting for me to screw up. Hence the apology. And now a whole thread on my mistake . lol
...so someone else can report it and get two free VIP days.
should have been deleted is still here with it's own branch.
By the way, edit is under "actions" along with reply, etc.
My ass is strictly exit only, but I have often wondered for those who like it, what is the difference between getting "pegged" by a female, or fucked by a TS?
thrusting angle for a woman. If a guy want's a good ass-pounding with a thick 10-incher getting way up inside of him, why wouldn't he want the REAL DEAL? Although, I heard they make dildo's now that recreate a creampie when loaded up with milk or cream, but I still have to think if that's what you're into, the real thing would be better. I gotta support RiverS on this one.
It's about what gender a person is attracted to *if* they aren't bi sexual or, brace for it, gender fluid (don't puke GaG, lol).
You are basing your opinion solely on how you are wired sexually with no regard on how other men who are attracted to genetically born females with what some would call a kink are wired.
Steph
Exactly how do you KNOW so much about the angle of penetration? 😉 And perhaps, and I guess I have to say my "guess" to be SAFE on the fuck board, the guy MIGHT want some pussy after their assfucking. Just sayin ... I mean guessin
Yes, I think the biggest reason guys don't see TS is because although they might like a finger up there or to be pegged, he may very well want to lick and fuck the pussy and seeing that kitty turns him on. Not something offered by a TS.
I can never understand why guys like being fucked (overall) when a finger works just as well. Likely it's because I am not a guy and therefore wouldn't know the difference in feeling a finger hitting the G Spot vs a dick/strapon.
Guys I see, the vast majority just want a finger. I'd rather off do it that way as well.
women because I'm fucking 3-4 girls a week. The vaginal opening is below the pubic bone, so women are used to thrusting upward, not outward as they would with a strap-on or dick. The angle makes no difference to the guy getting ass-fucked.
but maybe it's a way to both "fuck and be fucked" without doing a MMF?
Maybe these guys want to fuck after "being fucked" and they want a nice wet pussy and not anal sex with someone who used to be a guy. (no offense intended to the TG community)??? and/or maybe fucking a girl in the pussy kind of "washes the gay away" that they feel after getting fucked up the poop chute? lmao
Who the fuck really knows? but Steph's guess is as good as any, "some" of these guys simply aren't attracted to a person with a "full time" dick, IOW a guy or a tranny, and despite their desire to get fucked in the ass are ONLY attracted to the 100% female body.
I'm glad you could comprehend my use of "some" when I weighed in.
Steph xoxo
REALLY? I know exactly what I am doing. Maybe most don't. It's offensive to imply others don't have a clue what we are doing.
Now to get onto a friendly discussion with you....
Everyone is different. Some seriously do not know what they are doing. Just like with anyone. Some know exactly what to do.
I offer pegging if guys are willing, no pressure. Of those guys, a good 40% are more than happy to see a TS. They all know I will give references and make suggestions. I am not a hater. Nor do I refuse to see guys who only partake in that as long as they are ok with me not being one. That's my only concern.
Yes, it is a mind fuck for some and I purely don't get it. It is NOT like being with a man. It is exactly like being with another female who is using a strapon. That is how I would describe it. Although it is sexy as shit when you feel her throbbing inside of you lol. Seriously is.
I don't get at all the hang ups some have with seeing a TS. Quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, must be a duck!
I am picky as hell and I have seen several TS gals. All three of them were 100% female. I had a fucking good ass time! I like femininity and they all delivered. If a GG provider wants to whine and not see me because of it, I don't see those judgmental types anyways.... or if they want to not see my guys because of it, oh well, their loss. Like anyone should judge! Plenty of things they do that I don't. As long as I/her use protection etc, should not be an issue.
Simple logic is if you like me pegging you, why not with a TS? I don't even like that term (or GG) but for sake of conversation, I will go with it.
I tend to have the minority thoughts on this though. I offered doubles with one and the guys that responded were fucking idiots and disrespectful. I am offering them with two other girls and it has gotten better with the emails and respect. It is a huge thing of mine to be respectful. Bad enough i got to get dick pics or a guy trying to be dirty over communications for free. They seem to get worse if a TS is involved.
The great thing is, most of my regulars in Chicago were so happy to partake in doubles with a lovely TS coming soon.
I even had guys that see you, and since you are temporarily unavailable, they felt I am the next best thing LMAO. kind of an interesting world we live in.
that most heterosexual men aren't attracted to transsexuals. At least not as attracted as they are to regular girls, and not enough to have sex with them/pay for it.
You seem to have difficulty distinguishing between transsexual-adjacent activities and actual contact with real-life transsexuals. Lots of men who fantasize or go ahead and do things resembling what they might do with a T-girl have no interest in actually doing anything with a T-girl. Because they're not into them, when you get right down to it.
I disagree. I think most hetero men who are attracted to women don't want anything bigger than a finger up their back door (we all need our prostate exams whether we want to or not), and certainly not a device that is purposefully made to look like a man's dick, that is going to be strapped on in order to look like a dick and work like a dick. So this comes back to the the Op's question; if you want to be fucked in the ass by an exact replica of a dick, why not just use a real dick???
They put things in themselves designed to look and work like a dick, too. So why don't they just go get a real dick? Because they're lesbians, that's why.
Of course I'm speculating, and there's actually good reason for thinking that men who like having dick-shaped things shoved in their backsides might be bisexual at least. But not all of them. Some of them aren't attracted to men/T-girls, just like lesbians, and won't see them.
Many want nothing to do with penetration. Ask one. Lesbian porn with a double dong is not the norm for Lesbians. Its for men to watch and fantasize about. Once again, you have no knowledge, so you're making shit up to try to look smart, but achieving just the opposite.
Many men want nothing to do with anal penetration. Just as there are male pegging enthusiasts, there are penetrative lesbians.
Women don't lack the pleasurable biological sensation known as receptivity just because they're attracted to other women. They can and do enjoy penetration. Many do so with dick-shaped objects.
Tell me otherwise, and you'd be "making shit up."
If you're precise in your word usage in the first place, then you don't have to keep doing damage control because you're not being understood.
Now you are admitting you like a finger up your ass? Someone could easily turn that around and say what's the difference between a finger and a small finger sized dildo or dick?
Honestly, I don't have fucking clue as to why some people like what they like, and I think everyone who has voiced an opinion speaks for at least "some" of the guys who want to get fucked in the ass, but I am positive that no one can speak for them all.
My wild ass guess on the subject is that guys who ONLY want to get fucked in the ass by women with strap ons fall into two major group and a million smaller ones. I am sure some guys are bi/gay curious and feel that getting "pegged" by a woman is less gay do to their hangups about liking/wanting dick. And then I am sure there are guys simply into ass play who are completely straight, and just like they would NEVER get a HJ or BJ from a man or tranny, so too they would never desire to have actually sex with a person with a dick.
I bet you those two groups of guys covers the vast majority of the guys the OP is talking about, but it's far from a complete list. Quite frankly i don't really care who or why a guy wants to be fucked in the ass by, it's his business and really doesn't concern me, a guy who won't even allow a finger "up there"
a Doctor's finger for an annual digital prostate exam. Nothing faggy about that. Not doing it is more potentially dangerous than the discomfort of doing it.
Although, I must say, on one occasion, when I was supposed to get the finger in a prostate exam, my doctor was sick and when I got there the nurse told me a female doctor was filling in for him and would I like to go ahead with my physical or would I rather reschedule. I opted to go ahead since I was already there. I was in the exam room, and in walks a very hot 30-something Asian female doctor. I had forgotten there would be a prostate exam until she brought it up. I dropped my pants and leaned over the table, she lubed up and inserted her finger. She was very thorough and milked it a little to get a semen sample for testing, something my doctor had never done. It was actually kind of pleasurable. However, at the end, she rudely told me that a tip is neither expected nor appreciated. Never saw her again.
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I might go for twice a year physicals if that's the new standard. lol
As for you being a fag, have you ever known me to let the facts get in the way of a good laugh?
Maybe guys see it as foreplay before fucking. You've heard of foreplay, right. Of course, and to make y'all feel I'm not pontificating with more knowledge than the rest of y'all, I prefer anal play and the size and shape is secondary. It's foreplay with a GAL I trust who has the skills to satiate my spontaneous desires.
As you may know, I'm not a "scripted performance" kind of guy. I go with the flow and that would include anal play.
Speaking from my own experience, I enjoy anal play and have even enjoyed a toy instead of a finger, but again, as is said before, it's the journey not the destination.
It's the difference between having sex with a guy or a women... duhh You can use that example about almost any sexual act, hey why don't I just get a bbj from a TS instead of a women??? Because I don't want a TS mouth on my dick, it's the same thing.
I'm not judging for those who see a TS, I don't care what anyone else does, these are my reasons.
I can only hope you're threAD is all in jest.
By your estimation of the procedure in question, a lesbian Gal could be as easily pleased with a man , his dick & tongue while closing her eyes, as with her lady lover and her strap on. ROFL... Get the picture ?
I'm not knocking you, just explaining facts of life.
Most of us have preferences, if I ever decide to try out a trans she'll definitely be a PYT Asian. 
Get a grip on reality.
It always confuses me the number of men that I see looking for a provider to peg them. Why not just cut out the middle (wo)man and go right to the trans girl. That shits strapless Boys 😂😂, an we know what we're doing with it.
Is there a significant difference that is holding that up?
>>Get a grip on reality.
River doesn't have a strong sense of reality, so that's going to be a problem. Probably the hormones he's on to try and grow some ladylike features.
I can't speak for everyone, of course, but those who pointed out that some men like an extra kinky activity, but want a pussy to fuck for the main event, are right on the money. Now in my case, I was actually starting to develop an interest in TS, but wasn't quite there yet. I mentioned it to my ATF, and she suggested pegging. So I went for it (and damn, did she ever get turned on and go buckwild riding my cock later), and once I was used to it, and more comfortable with the idea, then I took the TS plunge. So to answer your question, River, you should be thankful that so many men are interested in pegging, because of certain percentage of them are later going to become your clients. Don't worry about the ones that never go beyond pegging; no provider can get every single client, and no client can get every single provider.
you were buying a few beers for your fridge.
As I have been pegged and have seen Transgenders. Overall preference is for pussy. As far as men goes, no thanks, too masculine. Surprisingly enough, the most intense play for fee experience has been with a TS, now unfortunately for me she has retired. I wish her the best.
And the doctor who gives me a prostate exam is a woman, by choice.
There is not a specific label that can be attached for those who go down this route by choice.
>>There is not a specific label that can be attached for those who go down this route by choice.
Yeah, there is, it's called "you're gay". Maybe not like, Liberace Gay, or Elton John Gay, but gay all the same. Enjoying cock is enjoying cock. You can strap it to a facsimile of a woman all you'd like, it doesn't really change anything. If you also like pussy, then there's a word for that too, it's called "BiSexual".
These aren't dirty words. Being gay isn't some dark mark in 2017, nor is being bi. River would have you believe that all men secretly want a cock (and by extension, his cock) in and around their ass/mouth and just won't admit it. This is at best exposure bias and at worse willful ignorance.
an actual guy who has done this and is here commenting. I hope Darmody gets down here to read this. Then he can stick his "theories" up HIS ass. I had a feeling that the experience would be more intense with a TS, as you say, but that still doesn't explain why a guy would want a strap-on over a T-Girl.
JustSauce makes a good point about just manning up and saying you're bi-sexual. Once a guy owns it, then no need to self-deceive with the strap-on, IMO. It seems from the few reviews I've seen that doggy is the most popular position for M-M or TS-M sex, so if you're not watching, why would it matter who's standing behind you? Wouldn't a guy getting his ass reamed want the most intense experience possible? There are some attractive TS's out there. Its not like being taken at the weight pile in prison.
Is there something you would like to tell us? lol
Why do some guys want a PSE instead of a GFE? Or why does a guy want a PSE one day and a GFE the next?
There are as many answers to this as there are people partaking, honestly just why are you looking for a "one size fits all" answer? That answer simply doesn't exist and Darmody's POV is just as valid as anybody else's. Guys who "have done this" can only be sure about their own motivations. Why do you see K-Girls? Do you think your answer is the same as everyone else who sees them?
Where it comes to having something shoved up my ass, personally I would prefer the LEAST intense experience possible, nothing harder or larger than a nice soft wet tongue for this asshole.
the psychology of it all. IBeCurious answered some of my questions about it. With that said, I think you know what my POSITION is on this topic, and that position is upright, not bent over. However, if that female Asian doctor wanted to massage a little semen out of my prostate again someday, I would spread my butt-cheeks for her.
It's just sex play but I would think for some there is a conscious choice or preference for strap-on vs t-girl due to homophobic tendencies. The t-girl of choice for me has to exhibit feminine qualities with hormone treatments physically changing them so they feel like a woman with the assumption they already think they are a woman. I've seen a cross dresser and that doesn't work for me. Again too masculine. Being pegged with a strap-on by a GG doesn't quite work as they can't seem to get the motion of the ocean quite right, the thrusting. Hence the TS route. I haven't played in this arena for some time now as the choices don't meet my criteria.
Someone mentioned the term is called gay. I don't consider myself that. If I did it would double my chances for a date on Saturday night. I don't date men.
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My straight guy friends who like me pegging them only like it because I am a female. They are horrified at the thought of playing out their fantasies with a guy or trans. One of my guy friends told me that he feels more comfortable with pegging because its just a fantasy for him. Obviously if he was into trans girls he go for them instead. Another guy friend says that he likes the transition of power and it isn't really about being with a guy or a trans but the fact that he is supposed to be a straight guy who abides by his gender role but allows me, a straight female to fuck him which in his eyes weakens his authority.
Having sex with a trans woman is an experience. Being pegged by a cis woman is another. No one has to choose, they're both out there and you can try and enjoy one, the other, or both.
No policing on people's desires! Why narrow things down when you can have it all?