I personally think true, contrary to popular belief esoecially among agencies who usually dont hire BBWs (they can hire or decline anyone they want to, but IMO its their loss, many BBWs can make out like bandits in this business).
One time I was walking down the hallway of a hotel I wad saying at, and saw this very large woman in her late 20s early 30s, and she was VERY VERY big, like so big she may need a cane in the future, it was mostly in her butt, (she had to be atleast 350 lbs) but she had a gorgeous face and hair and I remember thinking "she'd make alot of money as a heaux"
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But to your point about weight not determining rate, I think reality disagrees with you.
Yes, there are "some" rather big girls getting above average rates, but if you were to do a search of providers getting lets say $500 hr or above, I think that you will find very few fatties getting those kind of rates, not zero of course, but not very many either.
True or False, if a person claims they are "classy" does it prove the exact opposite?
It was a quote i read on the website of a BBW provider, I will not say who it is because she has a "no review policy" I was just interested in peoples opinions....
I personally am chubby but not obese (5'3" 150) I charge 250 an hour and I get my bills paid, but I don't see very many 500+ an hour girls in my area. However I did get one idiot off of backpage when I tried to screen him he said "fat chicks shouldnt get to screen!" only slim women deserve to be safe, REALLY?! personally i only want clients who are attracted to me, not "martyrs" who think they are doing me a favir by seeing me and thus i should give them half my rate or skip screening. I do think BBWs need to be extra dilligent with screening because they are more susceptible to prank callers.
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Personally I am not sexually attracted to overweight women, but that does not give me the right to "reach out to them" and then be insulting and treat them as less than human.
I don't necessarily agree that large women are more susceptible to prank callers than women smaller than them, but I guess when your weight loss is complete you will be in a position to know for sure. I read a post of yours on a regional board where you state you have already lost fifty pounds towards your ultimate goal of losing 80 lb. Congratulations.
In Chicagoland, there a BBW providers who charge more than spinners and they seem to be not having trouble attracting clients. Body size is only one ingredient in the recipe for overall attractiveness and appeal even though it's affect as compared to others is in the eye of the beholder. However, I don't see myself with a 350# women though.
Nothing wrong with fatties trying to sell their pussy. I'm sure some dudes love them large.
There also seems to be a large contingent of men on TER that love them old too.
Toss in the blurred photos...discount for the macular degeneration of most reviewers....and so many guys also love ugly.
In Chicagoland, there a BBW providers who charge more than spinners and they seem to be not having trouble attracting clients. Body size is only one ingredient in the recipe for overall attractiveness and appeal even though it's affect as compared to others is in the eye of the beholder. However, I don't see myself with a 350# women though.
I don't want hijack thread but have a question.
Dr. Who, above you say make comment that seems to mean that "blurred faces" means ugly? You say the blurred faces and bad eyesight shows many men love ugly.
Does this mean that you feel any provider that not show her face is Ugly? Or does mean if face hidden not same as face blurred?
Christine
However often when a reviewer posts his review of a gal with a blurred face...many seem to have extremely low standards of beauty.
There are many guys who are disappointed when relying on prior reviews of gals who blur their faces.
For the most part the women who are in HookerLand are average at best. Even those hookers that post unblurred photos generally only post their "best" pics. There is indeed something to be said for Twitter. I appreciate the hookers who post their au naturale pics. That way I'm not surprised...nor disappointed. And certainly not relying on reviews by old men with macular degeneration who will give any/every hooker a 10 because she touched his flaccid pecker.
I don't want hijack thread but have a question.
Dr. Who, above you say make comment that seems to mean that "blurred faces" means ugly? You say the blurred faces and bad eyesight shows many men love ugly.
Does this mean that you feel any provider that not show her face is Ugly? Or does mean if face hidden not same as face blurred?
Christine
Dr. Who,
Thank you, i was little confused. Sometimes harder for me to understand humor, sarcasm and just plain peaking without actually hearing tone of voice.
Again Thank You
Christine
Sometimes it is indeed sarcasm and humor that gets lost on strictly the written word.
Good luck in your continued weight loss....I understand that it really is a difficult process. I guess I've been fortunate not to have to deal with it...but considering the obesity in this country...many have an uphill battle.
Honestly the shit that people consume in this part of the world is a major reason for "our" obesity. I did notice that seeing a fatty overseas is generally limited to the overweight Americans that travel there.
Dr. Who,
Thank you, i was little confused. Sometimes harder for me to understand humor, sarcasm and just plain peaking without actually hearing tone of voice.
Again Thank You
Christine
You DO NOT have a weight problem. Your photos prove it. Do just what you are doing to be healthy. Its obviously working.
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It's funny you mentioned deep dish pizza, because I wondered about the same thing. There are so many overweight women (talking about population in general) in Chicagoland, so much so that obesity is a serious and rampant issue here. I often asked myself whether guys are feeding deep dish pizza to their girlfriends instead of f#cking them.
The deep dish and the pasta almost killed me.
Also, for some reason I stopped working out a lot when I moved, ecspecially in the wintertime as I didn't want to get out the house and trudge through the snow to the gym.
Moving on, I've gotten back into my intense workout regime and I'm at a cool 200lbs at 5'8. My goal is 150lbs (my weight when I was a stripper) and I can't wait to reveal my former body again.
I'm a larger woman by stature but I like to keep myself physically in shape for my sessions. I do a lot of squatting when I'm top and I had to be out of breath and such.
Sounds like you are.
I have to thank you as a stockholder in McD's for your continued patronage.
I personally think true, contrary to popular belief esoecially among agencies who usually dont hire BBWs (they can hire or decline anyone they want to, but IMO its their loss, many BBWs can make out like bandits in this business).
One time I was walking down the hallway of a hotel I wad saying at, and saw this very large woman in her late 20s early 30s, and she was VERY VERY big, like so big she may need a cane in the future, it was mostly in her butt, (she had to be atleast 350 lbs) but she had a gorgeous face and hair and I remember thinking "she'd make alot of money as a heaux"
What do y'all think?
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Wow thats kindve harsh I must say. The woman in the hallway was a different woman, not myself. I know I need to lose weight, Ive lost 50 already, its not an overnight process (though I wish it were lol).
But seriously that was really rude, I understand not being attracted to larger gals thats perfectly okay, but you don't need to make nasty comments like that. So unnecessary.
some guys can be very rude. Sorry this a-hole said what he said; you deserve better.
blowhard on this board. Rude to everyone. Has no life, so let it bounce off of you. Personally, I don't think you have far to go get where you want to.
with slimmer gals commanding more.
That said, the total rate will be a complex calculation involving many other factors other than looks and age, mostly menu and skills, but also the area and what the gal wants in return, among others.
You are fairly attractive, so at $250/hr, not at all a bad deal.
Just sayin'...
Talk about faint praise, I hate to say this fish, but you calling a girl "fairly attractive" is like the good Doctor Who calling her "butt ugly" lol
I did not take it as an insult, I know Im not a perfect 10 (not yet atleast 
). Im cool with "fairly attractive"
"The best way to figure out what a BBW is in our industry is to remember one thing: Its defined - as ALL our terms are - by the clientele. Not by your self esteem issues, not by how you feel you look - its defined by the people paying you."
See discussion on the Chicago regional board about bbw definiton; there is nothing wrong with a preference for thinner, classy women. Many exist. Body image issues and marketing need to be kept separate.
(I STILL hate the new TER as the posts are too spread out and not collapsible and sometimes out of place ... anyway ...)
I personally think true, contrary to popular belief esoecially among agencies who usually dont hire BBWs (they can hire or decline anyone they want to, but IMO its their loss, many BBWs can make out like bandits in this business).
One time I was walking down the hallway of a hotel I wad saying at, and saw this very large woman in her late 20s early 30s, and she was VERY VERY big, like so big she may need a cane in the future, it was mostly in her butt, (she had to be atleast 350 lbs) but she had a gorgeous face and hair and I remember thinking "she'd make alot of money as a heaux".
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I have seen some incredibly beautiful faces "in real life" (work, play, public) on bodies that are CLEARLY the product of poor nutrition choices and not something genetic. That same face in the 1950s or 1960s would be on a healthy, slim body. I just think to myself, similar to the OP, "Give up the McD!! Replace the Super Gigantic Sugary Beverage with some water or a small diet beverage! PLEASE! If not for yourself, do it for ME so I get some better eye candy."
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The OP mentioned walking down the hall of a hotel. Walk thru a mall or elsewhere and you often see a good looking healthy guy arm in arm with a fattie with a beautiful face. Same thing, IMO. I fantasize "high school sweethearts" so he knows her as a PERSON, not just a pinup photo, that have been together for years. Her: too much McD; Him: doesn't care (for now).
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Christine asked Dr Who about blurred faces and ugly. Where I have overlapping experiences with TER comrades I can sometimes make that distinction for myself. When a reviewer says "pretty" and I meet her and see "pretty 15 years ago, not so much now" or other discrepancy, I can see what Dr Who means by "love ugly." BUT! I have seen plenty of blurred faces behind closed doors that were cover girl material. Wow! I have also seen unblurred face pics (professional model pics after hours in the cosmetics chair) that turned into plain Janes BCD with little or no makeup.
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Personally, like GaG, I am not attracted to large (euphemism for fat) women at all. (I am attracted to tall, thin women.) Another big problem with TER is the "build" description. How often do I look at the ad of someone described in their Profile as Average and I see fat (in its various forms). "A few extra pounds" and all of the other descriptors I tend to avoid anyway, but what the fuck do they mean??
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Is there a correlation between weight and rate? I don't know. I have seen some BBWs asking for large donations but I can't remember the names of any nor do I know how their business is going.
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If I knew someone FIRST, and was attracted to her before seeing her, that would be a HUGE factor in overcoming the fat repulsion reflex (e.g., friends from many years ago who plumped up). But that would not happen in the hobby world ... unless a retired ATF returned to the biz. I would see her in a heartbeat, beer belly (hers) or not.
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And what is OTHFBC? Off-the-clock- nope; Other-than-her-fat-butt-cheeks ??
I want to lose 30 more lbs because i have a small frame, but im technically only 10 lbs overweight (10 lbs abive the top healthy weight for my height), so im classified as a "few extra lbs" although my body type is listed as "average" on here, remember the clients post the reviews and descriptions, not the ladies, i would not have put "average" for myself but my client/s did
You have been around here a long time, and have read tons of GaG's posts over the years, as well as other folks posts who have adopted the acronym. How can you not know what OTHFB, or OTHFBC means? 🤦♂️
Will your next question be what is SPOTY?
OTHFB = Over The Hill Fat Broad
OTHFBC= Over The Hill Fat Broad Club
It's either you have to be the two extreme. Very fit or BBW. Men come her to find their preference but the personally keep them as a regular. I have clients that say I would make BANK if I was 20 pounds lighter and I believe they're right, because my personality and face are top notch. At the end of the day, you should try to look and be your best in this business. If you don't have a personality then what's the point in being in this business anyway?
"Never missing a broken one for a disjointed">(«Nunca falta un roto para un descosido»,) Spanish version, The meaning of this popular saying is:
There is always someone for anyone. So no matter how small or big we can be there is someone who will 'Love it'.
Like a cocktail, you can create the perfect mix, but with bad quality ingredients you will get low quality result.
So I mean, not only skinny... Is about to be educated, speak many languages, can create the atmosphere for eroticism. Sex start in your brain not in your genitals.
Have a clean pleace, clean linen and towels, facilities to take a shower, mini bar, lingerie, toys... Porviding attention to the details. Some guys prefere get better service or some type of lady. Some want teens other ones want milfs.
Out here in the hinterland, there seems to be a base rate of $300/hr +/-$50. There are a wide range of ages and body types covered by the base rate. There is only a weak correlation of body type or age to rates within that base range. However when you get to the $400+/hr and above there does seem to be a correlation for the most part to younger and thinner. The exceptions would be someone with a slight bit of fame touring through.
So if you're happy working in the base rate range, it seems like your age and body type don't play big role in market price. If you want to earn $1200/hour, though ... well I've never spent that so I can't actually say what someone like that looks like in real life. I've only seen the glam photos.
Being attractive in face and spirit can be as long as it is backed up by stellar performance. Not trying to be mean, but many, including myself, have chubby at home, we want the steak when we go out, not the meatloaf. Thus maybe never looking beyond weight even though it is hypocritical based on our own proportions (again me). That being said, have had a few chubby and pretty sugar babies at rock bottom rates and had a good time. But when looking for high class courtesan and willing to pay more, I look for 8s and 9s, not 5s and 6s.
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Neither actually IMO. Who you are as a woman here defines your rate. How you market yourself as a woman here defines your rate. Staying true to yourself as that woman here (no matter what others will ever tell you) defines your rate. And bottomline, if the type of Gentlemen you are targeting are booking you, then you already have defined your rate. Weight and class has absolutely nothing to do with a number and are far too subjective for each and every individual to ever define anything. It's nearly impossible to make everyone happy here, but with the volume of enough flavors of beautiful women of all shapes and sizes being offered, all you can ever do is stay true to your own belief system in who you are and what you offer. I wouldn't concentrate so much on the "could", but maybe more on the "should". Best wishes...
I haven't seen any BBW that command the 4,5,600 rate. Most I adverised are in the 200-300 range. Now I live in LA and travel to Vegas so I'm playing in the most superficial centers of the world. I don't know how BBW plays in Boise,Mobile or El Paso. But I just don't see the demand...but that's just in my corner of the sandbox.
But still for the die hard spinner lovers, they often wouldnt fuck a big chick for free, so why would they pay for it? Would a big girl lowering her rates really make a difference? If a guy is turned off hes turned off, period. But her rates can stay up for the men who love bbws no?
But yes there's men who are into the BBW scene.But let's talk dollars here, not knowing where you're from, but what's the rate for a BBW lady in your area? Is she's asking for 400 or 500?? If she is i doubt it she's consistently getting calls. Now if she's asking for 200 say in LA, then she's getting calls and she's not only a BBW, she also a slump buster. So how low can her rate go if she's in LA?
that at 250 an hour, if you were 4 sizes smaller you could make twice that. 250/hr is not making out like a bandit. IJS
Im working on it lol, losing weight is not an overnight process unfortunately. Ive already lost 50 i have 30 to go to goal, itll probably take me til spring time.
Im also saving up for liposuction because (lucky me) i carry all my weight in my midsection (but have a tiny butt), the doctor will do my upper and lower abdomen, hips and back. even at my absolute thinnest i still had a tummy no matter how much i exercised, its a real trouble zone for me. One of my clients works in a strip club, while he personally fine with me as i am (hes coming to me on his own free will), he said in stripper world big butts and thighs are ok but extra tummys are a no no, i hate to admit it but hes right.
I do think you are right though, i am already seeing better earnings. I swear atleast 75% of my new clients in the past couple months have said to me "ive been seeing your ads for a while and finally decided to call you!" im getting that almost every day thag i work, and i strongly suspect the weight loss has something to do with it.
Im 5'3" used to be 200, now 150, goal is 120, wish me luck!
And nice job not letting all of us pricks here get you down.
Haha thanks
Getting big in the first place is no ones fault but my own, and i have to face the consequences for my poor food choices.
tummy weight is the most stubborn, but great job on losing 50 pounds! keep it up, i'm happy for you
Pics are not always a good way to tell a girls age or looks.. Some people don't photograph well, where as others are horrible, but photograph excellent. I've worked out most of my life and if i were to post my real weight, no one would believe me, bc muscle weights more than fat and i hold my weight in porportion.....
Im often told i look better than my pics, im one of those ppl who cannot photograph for the life of me, but unfortunately i need to post photos for this biz. Oh well better to look better than your pics than worse right?