do all clients just expect gfe ? I am extremely cautious and safe so i try to prevent myself from encountering STDs and whatnot . I really am a genuine provider that , with the right company of course , thoroughly enjoy what i do ! I know the whole point of contacting us ladies are to get the ultimate fantasy experience . but whatever happened to playing safe ? i know PLENTY of hobbyists have wives and families at home , so with that said , why recklessly endanger the lives of yourself and your loved ones all so you can say you had a one night stand with a high class hooker that gave you the ultimate PSE ? not that i am downing the ladies that are gfe providers , but it seems the only way this business is lucrative anymore is by taking chances and risking your sexual health all for a couple of dollars . this is more than sex to me ! I actually look to build long term friendships with some of my clients . not just to get their rocks off (although that is the overall goal by the end of the session 
) i have been told that I am a lot nicer and more laid back than most girls , but at the same time , i lose a lot of regulars to girls that are providing services that i don't provide . it really sucks because as I said before , I really am a genuine provider that strives to provide great service only to turned down because of the services I don't provide ........
but most are charging 120-150 for a hand job. If they're good, and want to work hard, they make plenty of cash and have a solid client base.
in my neighborhood, if you pay $150 for a hand-job they also throw in a fake massage.
i'm definitely not one of those providers , however I feel like my rates aren't so unreasonable that many decline because its "too much for not enough service" . my companionship alone is MORE than worth my rate . I shouldn't have to lower my rate because I actually have limits .
but most are charging 120-150 for a hand job. If they're good, and want to work hard, they make plenty of cash and have a solid client base.
But reality is, only a small segment of clients out there are going to pay for your companionship when they can get that companionship and get off too with another lady.
No one is asking you to change your limits, or what you're comfortable providing. And by all means, you shouldn't compromise your limits. But reality, is reality. You are welcome to bide your time and wait for your knight in shining armor, that is most definitely your prerogative. Conversely you shouldn't expect all clients to want what you provide, that's just simply not going to happen.
This is not a dating site, or a dating arrangement, it is P4P. Most of us (Providers and Mongers alike), like it that way.
yes you are correct about that . I don't expect clients to adhere to my limits , especially not everybody . but COME ON !!!! i posted in my hometown and literally EVERY call that came through was something uncovered ...... does anybody practice safe sex anymore ? I don't even provide uncovered play in my dating life unless i'm serious about them . I just don't even like to place myself in the way of possibly catching ANYTHING .
But reality is, only a small segment of clients out there are going to pay for your companionship when they can get that companionship and get off too with another lady.
No one is asking you to change your limits, or what you're comfortable providing. And by all means, you shouldn't compromise your limits. But reality, is reality. You are welcome to bide your time and wait for your knight in shining armor, that is most definitely your prerogative. Conversely you shouldn't expect all clients to want what you provide, that's just simply not going to happen.
This is not a dating site, or a dating arrangement, it is P4P. Most of us (Providers and Mongers alike), like it that way.
Most of the ladies I know do NOT provide uncovered FS. Not sure why you equate GFE to going bareback?
You most certainly can make your own limits and make that work for you. Plenty of guys love the PSE experience.
Just wondering why you are saying ladies like me go uncovered? That isn't GFE, that is something totally different dear.
no assumptions hun . since i have started working , i was always informed that gfe does (partially) mean going bareback . I have heard a couple of times that gfe doesn't necessarily mean going uncovered .
if you don't mind me asking , what is your definition of GFE ?
there are some men trying to pressure you into doing risky services by lying to make you feel inferior. When I was in the sugar daddy/sugar baby scene, lots of guys would tell me "well this is what my last sugar baby did for only this much, so that's what I'm looking for". Certain men will try to convince you to do more for less by making you doubt yourself and you absolutely shouldn't 
I offer GFE and I have never ever done bareback with a client. It's so risky and there's no reason to ever do that. If a guy asks for it, ignore him and add him to your list of men you will not see.
On the other hand, if you mean they're asking for "bare" hjs and bjs then it's up to you whether or not you want to do that. Most men would prefer a bare hj or bj and if you're careful to not "cross-contaminate" e.g. don't touch yourself afterwards with the same hand you just used on him, you should be absolutely fine.
I don't know who keeps telling you the line of horseshit, but I would bet it is men... because they'd tell ya just about anything to get what they want.
Your OP indicates that GFE gives bareback. Not just BBBJ. That is exactly how I took it because you didn't not clarify you meant anything else.
PSE can have covered or uncovered anything. Much like GFE can.
My definition of GFE? DFK, DATY, touching, taking time to have conversation, not fucking the whole time and doing a million positions. Me personally, I would also include BBBJ.
Thank you for clarifying that you did not mean BBFS.
Just know what you want, and figure out how to get it.
Nobody can teach you everything, you may have to pave that road yourself and be the power house that shows everybody, "this is how I did it when nobody believed I could."
It can be done, but only you can make that happen
Good luck!
yes , yes this is true ! i'm working on that . thanks for that !
... are you saying that you are a PSE provider that doesn't want to provide risky PSE type services? Or are you a GFE provider and you have the GFE/ PSE acronym meanings reversed?
i'm saying i'm a non-gfe provider who doesn't provide any gfe or pse .
unlicensed masseuse who provides CFS on the side, because that's the most common group advertising non-GFE. As long as your prices are in line with others that limit themselves this way, then you should be able to compete, but you can't expect a customer who wants more services to stay with you when he can get everything he wants down the street. Within reason, price point is usually immaterial in such decisions. Its like your customers are getting a hamburger and then find out if they go down the street, for a little bit more, they throw in fries and a drink. Do you blame them for wanting to eat somewhere (or in this case, someone) else.
lol I like how you put that ! but either way , I can drop my prices and still be offered less or expected more of because of other gfe providers do whatever for just a little bit .
example , one of my regulars was telling me how he got offered a bbbj with cim for $50 . how can i compete with that ?! I CAN'T .
of competitors.
Maybe up your brand and figure out ways to separate yourself from the rest. Might have to invest some money into that though.
Plenty of people will flood into your email inbox to boycott or argue with you and get into your head. As long as you keep responding, they will keep coming at you.
Just send all of those emails to the trash and block them. Asking for lower rates, telling you what to charge, or whatever you don't find an ideal client - those aren't serious inquiries, and you have no obligation to answer them.
Then get on some provider only boards to talk to other ladies in the biz who can help you figure out how to wrap your head around it.
xoxo
Good luck
C
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Streetwalker car date at that price. You DON'T WANT customers that also patronize streetwalkers. It defeats the point of being safe. It should be good riddance to that guy.
Where I'm from I wouldn't touch pay $50 for BBBJ with CIM if she covered my medical bills for me. That's way below market, and a rd flag. I don't know if that even matches the low-end BP rate.
I wouldn't worry about competing with that.
Why did I ask? Because many have an understanding of what GFE means (and we're sure it's correct) but whenever it's discussed it becomes clear there are differing opinions.
Please tell us what a GFE provider does that you don't.
well I don't provide any kissing or uncovered services . that is what i know to be a part of gfe . though i have heard that there are various definitions of what exactly gfe is .........
GFE is correct. It usually means open mouth kissing (DFK), DATY and BBBJ. Traditionally, PSE includes CIM and YMMV Greek depending on size.
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To be perfectly honest, I just want to get my rocks off, with as little effort (work) as possible. This is not to say that I'm mean or rude during a session, I'm still respectful. But I don't want to have to work for it anymore, I want the sure thing with super hot, sexy women, whom I'd never have a chance with IRL. I'm more than willing to pay for that, in fact I prefer it that way so I don't have to play the bullshit games of relationships anymore. I get what I want, she gets what she wants, it's a win/win.
As far as your concern with STD's, I am sure that most of us don't participate, or expect you to participate in unprotected sex. I guess that is unless you are referring to bbbj, then I understand your clients not repeating. If this is the case, you can either read up on oral and STD's to understand why the majority of providers aren't concerned about getting STD's from oral, or you can just resign yourself that your prospective client base is narrow. I can't get off with a condom on, I'm convinced it's a mental block, but it's reality. So if you don't perform bbbj, then hobbyists such as myself aren't going to want to see you.
But, as far as unprotected sex, you shouldn't accept that as an option and you should be concerned about clients who try to coerce you to do that.
It's my opinion, and I stress opinion, that looking for more than the arrangement for the period of time requested is foolish. The Hobby arrangement should tell you something about the man who is hiring you to spend time with him. Either he is married, has an SO of some kind, or he's like me and simply doesn't want this "long term friendship" of which you speak, it's too much fucking work. It's probably best if you keep this life separate from long term friendships. That is my opinion, I didn't charge you for it, and that's what its worth.
yes I am aware that the chances are a lot slimmer with oral however, the possibilities aren't completely eliminated . even still I feel that is still something to share on a more intimate level and not something that i look to share with any and every person I have a sexual encounter with , if that makes sense .
and by long term friendships , i , more so , mean regulars that I can see long term . not really friends lol . because youre right . if i'm looking for friendships , i definitely could be doing so for free .
and i hear you on the aspect that it will take less work , but i am pretty great at what i do , with or without a cover . i've had plenty of clients say "oh I don't like a condom for bj ." then I take him into my little world and give a mind blowing experience that had him changing his mind for sure (not bragging ny the way . just stating facts !)
To be perfectly honest, I just want to get my rocks off, with as little effort (work) as possible. This is not to say that I'm mean or rude during a session, I'm still respectful. But I don't want to have to work for it anymore, I want the sure thing with super hot, sexy women, whom I'd never have a chance with IRL. I'm more than willing to pay for that, in fact I prefer it that way so I don't have to play the bullshit games of relationships anymore. I get what I want, she gets what she wants, it's a win/win.
As far as your concern with STD's, I am sure that most of us don't participate, or expect you to participate in unprotected sex. I guess that is unless you are referring to bbbj, then I understand your clients not repeating. If this is the case, you can either read up on oral and STD's to understand why the majority of providers aren't concerned about getting STD's from oral, or you can just resign yourself that your prospective client base is narrow. I can't get off with a condom on, I'm convinced it's a mental block, but it's reality. So if you don't perform bbbj, then hobbyists such as myself aren't going to want to see you.
But, as far as unprotected sex, you shouldn't accept that as an option and you should be concerned about clients who try to coerce you to do that.
It's my opinion, and I stress opinion, that looking for more than the arrangement for the period of time requested is foolish. The Hobby arrangement should tell you something about the man who is hiring you to spend time with him. Either he is married, has an SO of some kind, or he's like me and simply doesn't want this "long term friendship" of which you speak, it's too much fucking work. It's probably best if you keep this life separate from long term friendships. That is my opinion, I didn't charge you for it, and that's what its worth.
And you say "I take him into my little world and give a mind blowing experience that had him changing his mind for sure (not bragging ny the way . just stating facts !)".
Early in my hobby career, I had a lady say that same bullshit, in the end she had to take the cover off and finish me with a hj, I was disappointed for sure. Just to be clear, I give "me" the best hj I've ever had. There is no need for me to pay someone for that.
You think you can provide this mindblowing experience with a condom on, because that is what "you" want to do. And again, that's fine, if you find clients who are OK with cbj, then cherish them.
I rarely achieve a finish with a condom on and never cbj, I went 50 years of my life having sex without one, and I'm still not used to it. I've had a select few who have gotten me there, vaginal, but they were the very best of the best that I've been with and only after I'd been with them multiple times. I would have never gotten that comfortable with them if they only did cbj, because I would have not seen them to begin with.
Cherish your clients who will accept cbj's, don't expect the rest of us to like what you want.
You said " even still I feel that is still something to share on a more intimate level and not something that i look to share with any and every person I have a sexual encounter with ", I'm guessing that you've done it uncovered with a one night stand or a casual relationship. Sooo... the difference is?
It is your prerogative to do what you want, charge what you want and accept only clients who will bend to your rules, but you shouldn't try to impose those beliefs on the rest of us. I would never see you, not being rude, just honest.
Gotta agree on the self-admimistered hj point. I love a woman's hands on me but I've never found one who can rub one out better than I do.
I remember this chica in Costa Rica a few years ago promised me the BEST blow job in my entire life or she'd do it for free. Naturally I took her up on the deal as she was pretty hot. I take her upstairs took, down my pants and then started literally laughing my ass off when she broke out a condom. I told her "you can't be fucking serious if you think you are even going to get me off, much less give me the best blow job of my life while wearing a condom"
The clueless chica still insists that her skills are so fucking awesome (does any of this start to sound familiar?) that she'll make me cum in five minutes. Well it took me ten minutes just to quit fucking laughing about how dumb this girl was and after about 45 minutes of her bobbing up and down, spitting, gagging and doing everything in her power to make me cum, she finally comes up for air and asks me if I am "close" yet. I told her she could keep doing this all night and she most likely would never make me cum that way, and if she wanted to simply concede our "bet"
Now she finally got smart and took off the cover and made it her mission to make me cum, which took about another 30 minutes and a serious effort on my part and I finally did cum. I did remind her our deal was "the best" blowjob in my life or it was free, and if most certainly was NOT the best I had ever had, or even in the top 500 blowjobs I had ever had consider most of it was CBJ, but she was a trooper and did her best so I did relent and gave her, guess what? Fifty bucks. lol
One thing to keep in mind, fifty bucks in Costa Rica is a lot more than fifty bucks here and was pretty much the standard rate for a blowjob there at the time.
Would you care to make the same bet someday? lol
see , I definitely can't account for any other chick . thats for sure . i'm confident in what i have to offer from experience . I know alot of girls pop big shit but I don't . I hate to brag because I know my actions are going to be able to show more than my words ever will . the rest of that is on you .
I remember this chica in Costa Rica a few years ago promised me the BEST blow job in my entire life or she'd do it for free. Naturally I took her up on the deal as she was pretty hot. I take her upstairs took, down my pants and then started literally laughing my ass off when she broke out a condom. I told her "you can't be fucking serious if you think you are even going to get me off, much less give me the best blow job of my life while wearing a condom"
The clueless chica still insists that her skills are so fucking awesome (does any of this start to sound familiar?) that she'll make me cum in five minutes. Well it took me ten minutes just to quit fucking laughing about how dumb this girl was and after about 45 minutes of her bobbing up and down, spitting, gagging and doing everything in her power to make me cum, she finally comes up for air and asks me if I am "close" yet. I told her she could keep doing this all night and she most likely would never make me cum that way, and if she wanted to simply concede our "bet"
Now she finally got smart and took off the cover and made it her mission to make me cum, which took about another 30 minutes and a serious effort on my part and I finally did cum. I did remind her our deal was "the best" blowjob in my life or it was free, and if most certainly was NOT the best I had ever had, or even in the top 500 blowjobs I had ever had consider most of it was CBJ, but she was a trooper and did her best so I did relent and gave her, guess what? Fifty bucks. lol
One thing to keep in mind, fifty bucks in Costa Rica is a lot more than fifty bucks here and was pretty much the standard rate for a blowjob there at the time.
Would you care to make the same bet someday? lol
160 different ladies over 13 years and still STD free. Well over 1000 hours including repeats.
deal killer, for most guys its an erection killer.
... but if she did it would indeed be a fem-wood killer.
I have had strippers use condoms to perform DATY in clubs and I went along with it tho I really disliked it.
just licking latex, we could all buy blow-up dolls and save a ton of money in the long run. Lol
great for you ! you've dodged many bullets .
I'm on to the next ad, there are just way too many other Providers who will do bbbj, for me to have to settle.
I'm done settling, I had settled all my life until I started my hobby, it ain't happening anymore, ever.
I haven't achieved your numbers, yet, but I as well have never had any STD's, knock on wood.
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because frankly, I could care less about them. And when tastefully done, you may learn something.
I certainly respect your standards and limits.
I don't think I've ever seen a higher cost provider ($300+ per hour) not do GFE and remain in business for long. The market usually weeds them out pretty quickly, and either they open up their menu, drop their prices, or decide that escorting isn't for them.
Non-GFE services usually lands you competing against the BackPage crowd, hence the "$50 for BBBJCIM" comparison you mentioned.
Not sure what your rates are, but if it's $300 or over you might be running into too much competition from reputable GFE providers and that's why business is slow. But $200, depending on where you live, is a reasonably competitive price for the non-GFE crowd. If you give a good massage, you'll have a nice advantage over non-AMP massage ladies who charge $200 and often don't even do FS or BJs. Just keep in mind that at that price point you'll always find yourself bumping up against bargain hunters and guys who dabbled in the street scene and think everything is negotiable. Probably no getting around that.
They have more reviews...maybe that makes the difference for them. Set your limits and feel good with them and move forward. Focus on you and your friends and I am sure you will build.
How did you see her profile when she posts as an alias? Are you ladies talking behind our backs? Lol Never, right. My previous post notes that we don't know that much "about" her because of the alias.
Just search her by name. It is not really that difficult.
Unless there is another non GFE Tori Love out there.
She is cute enough, but while I can live with CBJ, or even no BJ at all sometimes, I just don't enjoy sex without kissing, so even at her very low rates, I would still take a pass
I am still pretty new to the site so I am learning how things are working . what do you all even mean when you say I am posting using an alias ?
....be confident for your rates and you'll be fine..tell someone to kick rocks.
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More risks = more $. IDK many who will pay for covered BJ, or that are not interested in sharing bodily fluids. Kissing, and DATY are as huge as BBBJ here, so why would you expect the guys to pay top dollar for a covered everything provider?
I know most of my clients are married & their wives do not cater to their needs, or desires anymore, so they want to eat pussy, make-out, and have a great BJ that is not covered. I am sure you will survive with all your NO's, but if your looking for a sugar Daddy your not going to get him with all your rules. Come join the dark side we have cookies...
lol Smile 4 me! You may want to look into BDSM & become a Domina who does not touch a dick without a glove on. CMT is another option, but those massage girlies offer a lot these days as well. I offer M&G to see if we have chemistry, so you may want to offer that as well & clearly state your M&G is companionship only interviewing for potential like minded friends for future fun. Look into a niche for yourself & learn to market yourself better for the field your in.
Best of luck!
I originally said you will probably have to drop your prices to compensate for non-GFE services, but if that TER review is accurate and you're $100 for 30 minutes in a higher priced market like San Diego, you actually have the opposite problem and IMO you're underpriced.
At that price point you're competing with a strange collection of pimped girls, really old/unattractive women, and BP bait and switch girls. None of that applies to you. But offering half hour rates signals that you are one of those girls. You need to get out of the market.
I say go where you have the advantages. My advice? Rebrand yourself as a masseuse, get rid of your half hour rates and start at $200. In San Diego that puts you squarely in the FSBM market.
From there, you'll have a few advantages. One, you're younger and prettier than most FSBMs. Two, you show your face, which always makes guys feel better, and three, you provide FS, which among FSBM providers you usually only see in some AMPs or among the less attractive masseuses. Being a pretty, exotic, young full service masseuse for $200 puts you at a market advantage. Most girls who look like you in the FSBM space aren't full service, and I will take non-GFE FS over a hand job any day.
That's your play. Add some nuru and some tantra and you've got yourself a nice following.
and then make so much sense in other threads? lol
Yes, after viewing her profile I am VERY inclined to agree with you. I believe if rather than advertising as a FS provider with a LOT of rules, she were to rebrand herself as an "open minded" FBSM provider instead she might get a lot more calls.
I also completely agree she is much prettier and sexier than the typical girl at her price point. It's all a matter of perception, she could be one of the "worst" (due to menu limitations) FS escorts at the bottom of the price range, or she could be the "best" of the FBSM providers with rates right in the sweet spot for that kind of service.
I am not going to apologize for what I said on the other thread of yours, quite frankly you were BEGGING for the abuse you got on that thread, but I will concede you nailed it on this one.
I don't think I got any abuse on the other thread. Either that, or I'm completely oblivious to it. Meh.
He's taking his abuse with a smile. I give points for that.
lol wait a second , begging for what abuse exaclty ? because I was just looking for opinions or even a couple tips from hobbyists seeing that I look to appeal to you all . that's it that's all .
here higher-end FBSM girls have half-hour rates, too. $100 is low, though. More like $150 for the better ones.
So I wouldn't recommend she get rid of her half-hour rate. Raising her price overall and rebranding herself away from picky non-GFE FS sounds like a good idea.
My experience is that massage places that offer half hour rates only do HJ. I've personally never seen a FS FSBM that offered a half hour rate.
I figure, if Tori's companionship is as good as advertised, an hour session should be the minimum to do a nice combination of ice breaker convo (5 min), regular massage(15 min), sensual b2b/nuru/lapdance stuff (20 min), and then cbj/cfs the last 15 minutes, with some cool down ending convo after. Seems about right to keep things non-rushed.
of course we don't know your area since you are an unknown posting under an alias, but let me tell you from experience that there are many women, FBSM and otherwise that offer FS in a 30 minute session.
I also agree with Darmony when he says that hundred bucks for 30 minutes is probably too cheap and is hurting rather than helping her. Most women at the $200 hr range offer 30 minutes at $150, not $100.
I have to confess, without kissing, DATY or BBBJ, 30 minutes would be more than long enough for me, unless she gives great massages.
I am a GFE provider and I get tested every 3 months, never had any diseases. I only have been doing this business for 3 years. I am not a spinner but a mature chunky small BBW age 51. I love what I do and I get so satisfied by my regulars that want to satisfy me too. I don't know why providers are out there that don't do GFE as I get clients to return to me because they tell me that they love that I deep french kiss as well as allow myself to be satisfied (dining at the Y) and they love that I do BBBJ cim/swallow and rimming. I don't see how a provider can get any connection with their client without GFE passion. The connection is what keeps them coming back. I have a great business and love my regulars. The biggest comments I get are they are so grateful that I kiss and allow the two way street, and that I am so fun/easy to be with as I have a great attitude. Men need a passionate physical connection to be made to leave them wanting more..
There are some gents that are non-GFE, only want to be sucked (covered blowjob fine) and move on but those are few and far between. If they state that in their preliminary conversation after verification with me, I tell them they'd be best to go to non-GFE providers. I don't further that part of the business. I charge what I charge because I don't want to be just sitting there waiting but when gentlemen show up, they get a big surprise as they are amazed and are quite happy when they leave me. I also get big tips. Not changing my business to help others get business as I am just happy that I never have to worry. There are many gentlemen out there that won't pay less than $300 or more an hour because they feel that gets them the best services out there and best women and more power to them if that is what they think. I will gladly keep my down to earth gentlemen (all businessmen or retiree former businessmen) all happy and not seek that clientele.
and that's fine . to each it's own . but clearly I wasn't speaking on a working lady of your caliber . it was more so aimed at the gfe girls that are charging the same as a non-gfe provider to where i am in competition with such services . I know what men prefer clearly because I turn down a lot of clients because they are lookig for services that i refuse to provide , no matter how much they want to spend . just as you choose to continue to provide the serives you provide , I will do the same !
pun intended?
I'm not looking for CFS, or a provider to swallow, but it's not a deal breaker if they do. I've even met a couple of exceptional providers who don't offer CIM at all and I'm OK with that, but the key word here is "exceptional". CBJ is a deal breaker for me and when I see that - the provider goes on my Do Not See List.
Lastly, don't put a lot of stock into what clients tell you about how you stack up against other providers. It's mostly lies.
Just to be clear for the pin heads, my post was about CBJs and NOT CFS. Don't know why I can't edit my post, but whatever!
Anything goes. Bitches are desperate. And I call them bitches, because if you dont respect yourself and your health, no one else will. There a lot of options open to women these days that they don't have to resort to escorting. If you have a substance abuse problem, there is plenty of help out there. If they choose not to get help, it's on them. Send me an email @[email protected] and I can give you more info and talk to you about more private issues
" i lose a lot of regulars to girls that are providing services that i don't provide ."
(those damn whores)
Dear ToriLOVE,
Maybe you should call your new style of service,
WE - Wife Experience.
Some guys do get homesick after all. lol
One way or another, women always make the guys pay. The Wife Experience is just a more binding form of contractual payment.
GFE , the term alone seems harmless but it's what the hobbyist alone believes it to be. For the longest I thought GFE meant BB Because that's the response I would get and that disgust me. Lol first off are you serious ? Now I know it does not mean bareback BUT a lot of providers provide DFK as well and bbbj's lol. It's literally either , no knowledge of the possible risk of STDs or people don't care. I'm super safe. Men leak pre-cum with bbbj so whatever you have is now in my mouth ... I think NOT and as far as kissing goes. You could have a cut in your mouth and idk where your mouth has been. Herpes is real. So please don't feel like you're not offering enough ... once you lower your standards to please others . You won't be happy. I'd rather be safe and not risk living with a life long std versus getting paid by someone who doesn't gaf . To each its own.
do all clients just expect gfe ? I am extremely cautious and safe so i try to prevent myself from encountering STDs and whatnot . I really am a genuine provider that , with the right company of course , thoroughly enjoy what i do ! I know the whole point of contacting us ladies are to get the ultimate fantasy experience . but whatever happened to playing safe ? i know PLENTY of hobbyists have wives and families at home , so with that said , why recklessly endanger the lives of yourself and your loved ones all so you can say you had a one night stand with a high class hooker that gave you the ultimate PSE ? not that i am downing the ladies that are gfe providers , but it seems the only way this business is lucrative anymore is by taking chances and risking your sexual health all for a couple of dollars . this is more than sex to me ! I actually look to build long term friendships with some of my clients . not just to get their rocks off (although that is the overall goal by the end of the session
) i have been told that I am a lot nicer and more laid back than most girls , but at the same time , i lose a lot of regulars to girls that are providing services that i don't provide . it really sucks because as I said before , I really am a genuine provider that strives to provide great service only to turned down because of the services I don't provide ........