Do you feel justified having higher expectations seeing girls at the higher end of the rate scale? I am making appointment to see my first $1,000 hr provider and really trying to justify it to myself and will to be honest judge her harder than the girls I have seen at half the price or less who have rocked my world.
I know I should probably not use this as a comparison but here it goes anyway I would not be pleased to pay for a Ferrari and end up with a Kia even though their is nothing wrong with Kias. So you know the girl has multiple reviews stating she has 10 looks and 10 service reviews and in the tropical paradise that I live I do not get many girls that highly rated coming here to see so I am going for it. I fully intend to just have a open mind when seeing this girl but just to be honest at her rates she is going to have to be off the charts both physically and sexually in order for me to give her the high scores that I have done with others and if that sounds harsh then so be it but at the same time I hope she blows my mind along with other body parts lol. So how do you feel about it? Should high rates come with high expectations?just what do you expect your "thousand an hour" girl to do that girls at $500 hr, or even $300 hr can not, or will not do for you?
Personally, If I were ever to book a woman at $1,000 the only thing I would expect of higher "quality" would be the surroundings. I would expect either a 5 star hotel or a very luxurious private apartment, I would also expect more than a bottle of water or a bowl of peanuts to be offered, these are things that I would expect to be "better" than from a woman charging less money.
As for the session itself, there are only so many way to fuck. and 10/10 reviews are COMPLETELY meaningless to me. If you REALLY think she is going to have some secret technique that "lesser women" can only hope to learn someday you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
If you like her looks and you "just have to have her" I am not going to tell you to deprive yourself just because of the price tag, but It's much like ordering a thousand dollar bottle of wine, don't expect it to blow away the $500 dollar bottles you have had in the past, it's just not how things work.
Keep in mind regarding expectations, high expectations are what can lead to "high disappointments"
If so, then I would expect you'll be disappointed with a hooker that charges a grand for her time...especially if you're expecting a truly gorgeous woman.
The problem in this world is that the bar is set so low by so many johns that have social issues...that they often give out top looks scores for fairly average looking women. And only because they have never been around a really gorgeous woman.
As GaG posted..."he who does not expect shall not be disappointed".
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Do you feel justified having higher expectations seeing girls at the higher end of the rate scale? I am making appointment to see my first $1,000 hr provider and really trying to justify it to myself and will to be honest judge her harder than the girls I have seen at half the price or less who have rocked my world.
I know I should probably not use this as a comparison but here it goes anyway I would not be pleased to pay for a Ferrari and end up with a Kia even though their is nothing wrong with Kias. So you know the girl has multiple reviews stating she has 10 looks and 10 service reviews and in the tropical paradise that I live I do not get many girls that highly rated coming here to see so I am going for it.
I fully intend to just have a open mind when seeing this girl but just to be honest at her rates she is going to have to be off the charts both physically and sexually in order for me to give her the high scores that I have done with others and if that sounds harsh then so be it but at the same time I hope she blows my mind along with other body parts lol.
So how do you feel about it? Should high rates come with high expectations?
I have a (non TER) whore mongering buddy who has been all over the world and who used to go with me to the Del Rey on about a monthly basis a few years back and every time he would see an over priced girl in Vegas or somewhere else in the states he would say the same thing to me and a lot of the time my answer would be "I would give her $60 at the Del Rey" lol Fortunately he really doesn't give two shits about the money, and he sees them anyhow because he's not going to deprive himself over a few bucks, but like me he laughs at the idea that a thousand dollar hooker has anything more to offer than any other provider at a lesser price tag.
Lets face it, you can only get "so beautiful" and there are simply only "so many ways to fuck" any guy who really expects an experience head and shoulders about what he is used to from other "quality" women that charge half as much are really setting themselves up for disappointment. Now of course if you are going to compare a thousand dollar girl to a hundred dollar BP girl, you are going to see a huge step up in the quality of the experience, but a $1,000 hr girl is NOT twice as good as a $500 girl, I bet you most of the time there is ZERO difference except for the price.
Don't get me wrong, a thousand bucks really isn't "that much" money to spend on yourself for something you really want, but just like that thousand dollar bottle of wine, don't expect it to put all your other experiences to shame, and the worst thing a monger can do is let a bunch of 10-10 reviews in this age of grade inflation sucker him into thinking she "must be" all that, because of some reviews written by guys in serious need of both glasses and standards. lol
I remember when I would not even think about paying more than $250 hr for a girl as when I did try one at 3 I was disappointed. Then I saw a review for a girl at 5 that I found interesting and I though she was just incredible and then felt the same way about a girl I saw right after at the same donation and I said to myself wow their really is a difference in the quality of the girls,their performance and in how they generally treated me.
Then I saw a girl at $600 hr who did not even give me a break on multiple hrs. and she was truly a model quality girl but because she really acted way over the top when having sex which was a turn off and did not give BBBJs (at least to me) or let me perform Daty I wound up giving her a 9/8 score which was lower than her norm and I was obviously a bit disappointed and did grade her harder.
I agree with what you are saying and would probably choose another girl if I had more choices but I am going to just have the best time I can with her and hope she exceeds my expectations which she may very well do.
I have a (non TER) whore mongering buddy who has been all over the world and who used to go with me to the Del Rey on about a monthly basis a few years back and every time he would see an over priced girl in Vegas or somewhere else in the states he would say the same thing to me and a lot of the time my answer would be "I would give her $60 at the Del Rey" lol Fortunately he really doesn't give two shits about the money, and he sees them anyhow because he's not going to deprive himself over a few bucks, but like me he laughs at the idea that a thousand dollar hooker has anything more to offer than any other provider at a lesser price tag.
Lets face it, you can only get "so beautiful" and there are simply only "so many ways to fuck" any guy who really expects an experience head and shoulders about what he is used to from other "quality" women that charge half as much are really setting themselves up for disappointment. Now of course if you are going to compare a thousand dollar girl to a hundred dollar BP girl, you are going to see a huge step up in the quality of the experience, but a $1,000 hr girl is NOT twice as good as a $500 girl, I bet you most of the time there is ZERO difference except for the price.
Don't get me wrong, a thousand bucks really isn't "that much" money to spend on yourself for something you really want, but just like that thousand dollar bottle of wine, don't expect it to put all your other experiences to shame, and the worst thing a monger can do is let a bunch of 10-10 reviews in this age of grade inflation sucker him into thinking she "must be" all that, because of some reviews written by guys in serious need of both glasses and standards. lol
I am sure even the women will tell you this, don't get all caught up in "how much" you are spending. It's only money, right? Just go into this session like any other and enjoy yourself, and who knows? Maybe she will indeed exceed all your expectations.
BTW, going back to my wine analogy, I have had MANY bottles of wine that cost well over a grand apiece and while I wouldn't say they were much more than "barely" better than wines costing half as much (still a lot of money) I certainly wouldn't say they sucked either. lol
Let me guess... all your hooker GFs had wine cellars stocked with all of your favorite wines, sippy cups, and lots of ice.
Tell us more ...
When we first started dating I used to wonder why she would have a dozen bottles of wine on the counter and none of the bottles would be the same. It turns out that between her and her roommate they would average at least a bottle of wine apiece that would be given to them by clients that they never opened with said clients. Of course after we started dating there was never any "extra" wine laying around, except for the cheap shit that neither one of us would drink.
And I don't see a lot of $1,000 girls on your list of reviews, which proves you have at least "some sense" lol
Just stories you spin
Well said GaGambler. I'm not interested in exploring the $1k price range, but if I were I think phenomenal service is what we should expect. It's not a $60/15 min quickie where she leaves her shirt on, yanks her dress up, stands up and sticks her butt out and starts the timer...
whoa Daddy..i think we hit fucking Paydirt again...
Well said GaGambler. I'm not interested in exploring the $1k price range, but if I were I think phenomenal service is what we should expect. It's not a $60/15 min quickie where she leaves her shirt on, yanks her dress up, stands up and sticks her butt out and starts the timer...
Oscar worthy.
Sometimes a gal is good, but the one time I paid that price, the gal was great, and if I could have continued to afford to see her, I would have.
My expectations rise with the price, but only up to a point. If I saw BP girls, I wouldn't expect a quality experience for $100 to $200 per hour in my market. One of the top local providers charges $400 per hour, and she has over 100 great reviews, so I would expect a great experience with her. And there quite a few other local providers with many good reviews available for around $300 to $350. If I was in a bigger metro area, I would expect to add as much as $200 to the above amounts. Beyond that range, I would expect to feel ripped off.
Porn stars are a different deal. For a while, I was seriously interested in doing a call with a porn star. There was a local provider who claimed that she did porn the previous year, but her provider name didn't match up with anything but her own escort site when I googled her. And her looks and reviews weren't special enough to justify her prices.
Anyway, I did a search here at TER for porn stars and read through a lot of profiles and reviews. Long story short, the only reasonably priced ones had retired from several years ago. The more recent porn stars tended to charge a lot, but some of them were very YMMV in the reviews. I think that their pricing and their reviews tended to reflect the fans that would have paid anything just for that specific porn star, and were delighted with fairly average sex just because of the fantasy. Some reviewers realized that they were expecting more, and that likewise may have contributed to a poor review for fairly average sex.
Sometimes the ladies use different aliases for their porn work and their escorting.
You just get the girl you want. There will always be guys who can afford to pay the grand and it don't affect them like it would me financlly. If you can afford to pay a grand an hour, you will simply increase the women you can be with. but I wouldn't expect more.
providers that have charged from $400-$600 but have seen a few that charge upwards of $900/hr. I'm based in SoCal. In my opinion there really is very little difference in services or looks. Even the one that I saw at $300 was cute but she was not full GFE but FS. The more expensive ones were sometimes worse and sometimes marginally better than the $400-$600 ones. My current ATF was in the lower range but since I have become a regular my experience with her has become extraordinary and has been better than the $800-900 providers I have seen. Maybe my expectations are lower for the "low cost" girls but I really believe there is not a lot of difference. Now if I was super attracted to the look of a more expensive provider and her reviews were good than I would be willing to shell out more $$$ just to be with her.
and I would add that there has to be something truly elite or special about the lady to justify $1,000 an hour. Sport's Illustrated Swimsuit Cover Girl, Playboy Model, Penthouse Model, Victoria's Secret Model. Only a fraction of the TER Top 100 Providers in All Cities, for example, have rates of $1,000/hr. Again, that is the Top 100 Providers in All Cities and not the Top 100 Providers in a given city such as New York or Los Angeles or Las Vegas. And the separation between many of those providers based on their rankings is very small (hundredths of a point) and insignificant. Additionally, there are actually quite a few of them that have rates of $400-$500/hr. Even so, similar to you, I also set up a $1,000+ appointment for next month. For a variety of reasons, I have a strong desire to move upmarket.
what would you expect the provider with a higher rate to do that a provider with a lower rate wouldn't? Is she a gymnast who would give Gumby a run for his money? What could possibly be done, at that rate, to make it worth your while? Is there some special/specific skill(s) that you know for sure the higher rate provider will do to/for you?
On the other hand, perhaps it will be an amazing experience and you will have a VERY good time. Maybe she is someone that you've always wanted to meet. Maybe you just need to experience being with a provider at that rate. Whatever the reason, hopefully you will not be disappointed. Good luck.
We as consumers have every right to have higher expectation the higher we pay for something. So I agree with you that if you are to pay the asking price of $1,000/hr. you deserve a service that blow your mind by a beauty that is at the 0.01% of the female population.
Have absolutely NO MERCY on her score should she in anyway shape or form live up to your expectation. She brought it on herself with her asking price.
That said, however I agree with previous posters who doubted that at this price point there is anything possible that she can do to justify charging more than gals at $500 or $300 even...
Personally if I ever have to pay $1,000/hr. which I never will I would expect a total sex slave who will accept and do anything and everything under the sun as long as it is not painful or resulting in injury.
If you can haggle her down to $600/$650 or so.
So its not a question of "the higher the rate the higher the expectations" but rather "the higher the rate, the bigger wiggle room to negotiate that shit down a bit."
Disclaimer: Don't believe everything you read here. There is NOT a class at Jack Dunphy University on "how to spot a hottie across a room."
That's more of a value added service I offer for free when you send in your non refundable application fee of $500.
Shoot me her pics and I'll tell you how hot, or not, she is along with a proper opening offer for her overpriced service. 
..... how much I'm paying by the time I'm at the door or she is knocking on my door, my mood is shot and I would be playing catch up.
Once I've decided to spend the bucks, my mind is purely on enjoying the situation that I would never have been able to be in without the money.
I spend what I can mostly responsibly afford. The few $300 an hour ladies that I see are awesome. Same for the $400, $500 and $700 ladies.
I have seen one $1000 lady and she was so much fun, I will see her again if I can.
I expect to have an excellent time no matter what I spend.
I believe in treating spent money as gone money. If a provider disappoints me it might sting a bit more if I dropped a grand but what really irks me is just the idea that somewhere else with someone else I could have been havung GOOD sex.
I'd expect her to be able to stand on her head while blowing me and singing the star spangled banner and simultaneously twirling a hula hoop on each leg.
I have had the best service and looks I ever had, for 300 an hour. I definitely notice a difference between 200/hr and 300/hr. After that it's all the same, and it just would mean my wallet is emptier. As GaG said, (paraphrasing) Looks and service can only get so good. To each his own, and if a gal can get that much and guys are willing to pay that much, that's fine for them. For me it just makes no sense. If I had the kind of budget to do that I would just see more providers, or the same provider multiple times, or have longer dates. I.e., why pay 1000 for 1 hour with one girl when I can see another gal 3 times, or maybe one for an overnighter, or 3 different gals?
I just don't see the return for me.
Its part of over paying for everything to live in Paradise Bro. Actually I am lucky to have a chance to see a well reviewed girl who actually uses P411 as there are hardly any BP girls here to see.
I lived on your rock for 10 yeqrs, and it is extremely slim pickings when it comes to p4p, but did I ever tell you about the two amazing experiences I did have on your rock? One with a SW of all things, and one with a gal I picked up hitchhiking, who happened to be available for a fee. 😊 Of course this was back in 89 and 91, and neither experience ever repeated itself. Anyway, as you know my rock is very much lacking too compared to most places. I believe your previous home was S cal, so you went from candy store to hobby desert.
I know who you are talking about. I saw the ad a few weeks ago and was checking it out myself, until I saw the price tag. In any case, it's your money dude. Do what you want. Have fun. You asked for opinions and I gave you mine. Personally if I lived on your rock, I would actually book a flight to my rock to hobby. For that 1k I could get airfare, hotel and see 2 ladies, and maybe spend some time shopping or doing something else while I was in the "big city."
....and it is also likely to never live up to what is expected.
...for your money. At least, you'll have satisfied that "itch" and you'll be able to judge for yourself whether it's worth it.
To follow up on GaG's analogy regarding wine, I've been in the wine biz for a number of years and have sampled thousands of wines from $4 a bottle to $6,000 a bottle (yep, that's the retail price and they sell all they make every year). I've been disappointed in some very pricey bottles, not so much because of my expectations about the pricey bottle but because I've tasted so many good wines at affordable everyday prices.
If I can get what I want for $12 a bottle, how often will I spend $80-100 a bottle? Not too often -- but some times I do want a "special occasion" indulgence.
I think it has more to do with name brand and image than it has to do with bang for their buck for a lot of buyers. It's odd in a sense to think that shopping for a person's company is the same as shopping for clothes and accessories. Wanting a name brand and a fad is a thing.
The some people just aren't comfy being in certain settings, and expect that paying more means a nicer facility. A dude who always wears tailored suits might not like going to anything less than business class hotels or higher
I never knew this was a "thing" until I dated someone who absolutely hated going to certain places because he just didn't fit in, and I mean the less "upper class" places, as he would call them - or "high end". He used to say, "there's a certain benefit that comes from dressing high end." (I thought it was stupid, because the only true benefit in life is - are you happy with your life, and are you allowing others to be happy with their lives).
I had a date refuse to go to a regular chain restaurant. I once convinced him to go to a regular old restaurant, and I could tell he was extremely uncomfortable. I've had that happen with two people. I finally figured out why one dude was such a dick every Thursday night, and it was because he was severely uncomfortable in a "low end" restaurant, even though it was just a casual "hey, let's go get split pea soup" thing. The other was sweet about it, but refused to go the next time. With those two, I remember we usually went to really nice Italian places, or business class bars with "attractive" people. (Attractive meaning were they dressed like "money".)
Very interesting. These people weren't filthy rich either - they were both Wall Street New Yorkers relocated for their jobs though. Back then I thought it was ridiculous with the guy who always chose to go to that place, but was still a total dick to the staff...
I'm sure some people choose escorts at lower rates so they can snuff their nose down at them and brag about their money - kind of like this guy liked to occasionally visit a low end restaurant so he could treat the staff like peasants. I've met a few "wealthy intellectual scholars" who treated people politely-but like peasants, and it was very awkward and stupid... but they seemed "pleased" and seemed to strategize it that way. "Welcome to my world... it's better than yours. See?"
But then you get the client who never talks about how much money they, and they treat you and everyone around you like equals or higher. (humble). They have a budget for providers, practically exact.
I personally have tried to do accommodations in adjacent towns for regular customers, but I just hated that there were only 3 star hotels. I didn't mention it much to the clients, but eventually I did mention that I just wasn't comfy in a low end hotel - even Sybaris - I just don't like it, especially because of the way I dress on dates - I don't feel like I fit in. (In my case, it's more of a not wanting to stand out thing...)
There was a client who saw me in Rockford, and in Rockford, there just aren't any hotels above 3.5 stars. Sucks, but we make it work and I get as updated place as possible with a suite. We went to a different town last time, and I got the type of facility I normally book. When we walked in, we both sighed and said "Wow. This is much better, thank god." Fancy, and looked more luxurious.
There are the clients who complain that a hotel is "too high end". I've had that happen, and have been shocked... and they seem to have good money too.
I have more examples, but I've questioned the same thing. I kind of feel like the client is paying not only for the girl, but for the presentation... so $500 for the girl, $500 for the presentation they expect. Hotel, booze, is the dress tailored, etc.
There are some like that... and there are some who love love love jeans, and don't care about price - they just want the girl they want and that's that.
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Exist for two reasons
1. To impress pussy, so he can have some.
2. Impress everyone else, if everyone likes him, the pussy will to.
Watch a patron at a strip club.
Chippendales equivalent of a rodeo clown . . . . . . keeping the cows off of the stars.
TheNudeOpera is is saying. I've worked on Wall Street. Everyone who works on Wall Street has an ego. You don't get your foot in the door unless you have a type A personality (or at least convince them that you do). There is a certain pedigree that they look for and they only tend to recruit at certain schools.
When I was getting my MBA, for example, I went through a pre-MBA class orientation. I remember a presentation that was given around the theme of "dressing for success." That presentation highlighted the importance of looking the part, building your own brand, and creating an image.
And their was also data (yes ... MBA students love data - you need to show them data to gain credibility) that showed that there are really 3 factors that will impact your success post-MBA: Performance, Image, and Exposure to Executive Management.
Many of my classmates were disappointed when they realized that their job performance was only a small piece of the pie. Over and over again, they would condition us on the importance of looking the part -- or Image. And on developing and maintaining your personal brand. So they adapted and changed their behaviors (focused on image).
That way of thinking extended into selection of hookers, too. When a group of the guys that I worked with got their year end bonuses (which could be more than their base salaries if we were in a bull market), they would go out the following weekend and celebrate. I remember going out with about 10 other guys the day after we got our bonuses.
We went to a pricey bar (image thing), and long story short we ended up playing two rounds of "Credit Card Roulette." Credit Card Roulette is where everyone throws their credit card into something (a big glass, a bag, whatever) and then the waitress picks a card at random and that person foots the bill. Round #1 was to determine who was going to pay for the drinks (about a $1,200 bill) and Round #2 was to determine who was going to win a night with a high class call girl [everyone who wasn't selected would chip in ~$200].
The guys who chipped in the money to pay for the girl would get to select the girl by majority vote. They would never consider a lady who was charging less than ~$700 an hour because they believed in market dynamics. To them market prices are a reflection of competition and the ladies that are able to charge the highest rates have risen to the top.
Most of them were pretentious assholes, but I have to admit they were still fun to hang out with. Yes, they liked to brag about money and were very materialistic. But when some of them get six-figure bonus checks, it was hard for them to be humble. They felt like Charlie who had just won the golden ticket.
And most people that work on Wall Street are not filthy rich. Most make a healthy salary ($150-$200K + bonus), which isn't all that much when you are working in Manhattan. But it is not their current salary that motivates them and makes them constantly think about money. They look two levels up and see the guy that makes $1M and gets a $1M bonus. Everyone wants to be that person. Which creates intense competition. Except that only 1% of those making a healthy salary will be that person in 10-15 years.
Interesting culture. You see a lot of humility in bear markets. In bear markets, I suspect that a few were eating Ramen noodles when their big bets didn't pay off. I even caught one "high end" guy who refused to eat at common chain restaurants eating at McDonald's once. People are people. We are all the same (equals).
They are the ones "Kvetching" about how poor they are.
You are talking about the "wannabe's" these are the guys who believe in "fake it til you make it" Very few of the guys who have actually ever "made it" still have the obsession about proving it.
I first had this lesson hammered home to me in Las Vegas a few decades ago. Back then I too was programmed to believe that the guys who dressed the best were the "rich ones" and then I started noticing that the so called "rich guys" in the suit and tie rarely were gambling more than black chips ($100 chips for you non gamblers) but almost all the high rollers with stacks of five thousand dollar chips in front of them were casually dressed or sometimes even shabbily dressed by our rather snobbish standards.
Fast forward to today, When was the last time anyone saw Bill Gates in a five thousand dollar suit? In the business world, "soldiers wear the uniform" Generals wear whatever the fuck they want to.
What you say about Wall st is unfortunately very true. To someone living in Cream Cheese Kentucky, $200K a year sounds fantastic, but in NYC a guy making only $200K a year most likely can only afford a one bedroom flat and maybe one hooker a month. lol Even a couple of million a year isn't "real" money in Manhattan.
It was a guy wearing gym shoes and over sized jeans. I cracked up because it was so true lol!
But yeah it's an upbringing.
I remember the one guy was so focused on image, the girl he was with had to match his image. He couldn't handle "low end" clothes and anything that wasn't high fashion
He was hilarious, but he could not handle low end anything. I had never been exposed to "perception of value" until then. But treating the staff like peasants really bothered me. Night and day difference from when we went to more upscale restaurants.
I remember seeing the Chinese dudes dressed casually with stacks and stacks of chips at the black jack tables in Vegas. Lol!
There are some who dress like money that never talk about money though. You can just see it and feel it when you touch their shirts. Yom nom nom
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and then there is "understated quality" that only screams RICH to the discerning eye.
There are some actual rich people who flaunt it, but I have to say most truly wealthy people I have known don't try to bring that kind of attention to themselves. They know the more they flaunt it, the more people are going to put a target on their backs. People who are "wannabes" don't worry about being a target because they don't have much to steal from in the first place.
I remember going to Trump's in Atlantic City for a NYE party some thirty years ago, everyone was dressed in formal wear, including myself as that was what was expected, the guy who drilled my wells at the time was also in attendance wearing dress slacks and a windbreaker. Every "higher up" in the casino dropped by our table to kiss his ass. Oops, I forgot to say he had dropped about ten million on the crap table there over the previous year or so. When you drop that kind of coin, especially way back in the 80's you can dress however the fuck you want to. lol
Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against dressing well, but I think the concept of "the clothes make the man" is total bullshit.
Back in the 80's Steve Jobs and other important people in the tech industry used to wear suits to conferences. Then Jobs, Gates and others started to dress casually. Jobs took it to a new level and would wear jeans with patches, then short pants to the knees with old socks and tennis shoes etc.
Pretty soon rich tech executives would try to one-up each other in terms of slovenliness. For some guys it proves they have "arrived" because they can go around like slobs.
Then there is Larry Ellison who is filthy rich and always wears nice suits.
Personally, I refuse to go around like a slob because too many people are trying to be cool by showing how sloppy they can be.
Lots of kids claim to get ink because it makes them a "rebel" but then they go on to say that all their friends have ink too. So by getting a tattoo they are "fitting in by becoming a rebel" which is an obvious contradiction in terms. lol
So maybe you are the true rebel by dressing the way you dress if people are trying to "look cool" by dressing like slobs? lol
It's kind of ironic, about thirty five years ago, during the first oil boom I was living in Dallas, I was doing pretty good for myself considering I was only in my mid twenties and I was going to treat myself by buying a new BMW. I really liked the "Beemers" of that day, but what I didn't like were the uptight yuppies who all seemed to drive "Beemers" I absolutely refused to be "one of those people" so I bought a new Cadillac and drove Caddies for the next 30 years. To tell the truth, I still like BMW's but I haven't come around to the type of person that typically owns one. lol
I drive a 6 series. Ain't no uptight yuppie here 🤣
I actually found the thread, I was going to respond to gag but the post vanished since you posted. I couldn't remember what thread it was.
Would you drive an autonomous car, that was marketed to the driver?
I was going to tell Gag that you haven't made it until you own and operate a autonomous Lamborghini.
Why would anyone want an autonomous performance car? They usually charge more to remove the radio.
Some of the most fun people I've ever met. The one dude used to say, "you're the most interesting and fun girl I've ever dated." Also said "you are nothing like any of my friends. I was brought up very differently than you."
And I think this is what he meant. Image means everything where he came from.
Fun, fun, fun, but you could really tell how his entire demeanor changed when he walked into certain places. The other Wall Street guys were nice about it, but you could see them squirm a bit.
I do know of some who have good $$, but dress in working jeans/tops. They still will not see girls below a 2 hour minimum at a certain price, even in Chicago.
Very interesting. But that's why the high end brands sell. People actually think like that. Smaller market, but it's there.
I remember some always talking about how much this guy or that guy makes, and "why can't I make that anymore?"
Money defined them, even if they weren't the top.
I remember a story about a guy who lost everything. He was really rich. He lost everything, so he lived off of credit, and then started borrowing money from people so he could live the same lifestyle and regularly eat $300 steaks.
+1
TheNudeOpera is is saying. I've worked on Wall Street. Everyone who works on Wall Street has an ego. You don't get your foot in the door unless you have a type A personality (or at least convince them that you do). There is a certain pedigree that they look for and they only tend to recruit at certain schools.
When I was getting my MBA, for example, I went through a pre-MBA class orientation. I remember a presentation that was given around the theme of "dressing for success." That presentation highlighted the importance of looking the part, building your own brand, and creating an image.
And their was also data (yes ... MBA students love data - you need to show them data to gain credibility) that showed that there are really 3 factors that will impact your success post-MBA: Performance, Image, and Exposure to Executive Management.
Many of my classmates were disappointed when they realized that their job performance was only a small piece of the pie. Over and over again, they would condition us on the importance of looking the part -- or Image. And on developing and maintaining your personal brand. So they adapted and changed their behaviors (focused on image).
That way of thinking extended into selection of hookers, too. When a group of the guys that I worked with got their year end bonuses (which could be more than their base salaries if we were in a bull market), they would go out the following weekend and celebrate. I remember going out with about 10 other guys the day after we got our bonuses.
We went to a pricey bar (image thing), and long story short we ended up playing two rounds of "Credit Card Roulette." Credit Card Roulette is where everyone throws their credit card into something (a big glass, a bag, whatever) and then the waitress picks a card at random and that person foots the bill. Round #1 was to determine who was going to pay for the drinks (about a $1,200 bill) and Round #2 was to determine who was going to win a night with a high class call girl [everyone who wasn't selected would chip in ~$200].
The guys who chipped in the money to pay for the girl would get to select the girl by majority vote. They would never consider a lady who was charging less than ~$700 an hour because they believed in market dynamics. To them market prices are a reflection of competition and the ladies that are able to charge the highest rates have risen to the top.
Most of them were pretentious assholes, but I have to admit they were still fun to hang out with. Yes, they liked to brag about money and were very materialistic. But when some of them get six-figure bonus checks, it was hard for them to be humble. They felt like Charlie who had just won the golden ticket.
And most people that work on Wall Street are not filthy rich. Most make a healthy salary ($150-$200K + bonus), which isn't all that much when you are working in Manhattan. But it is not their current salary that motivates them and makes them constantly think about money. They look two levels up and see the guy that makes $1M and gets a $1M bonus. Everyone wants to be that person. Which creates intense competition. Except that only 1% of those making a healthy salary will be that person in 10-15 years.
Interesting culture. You see a lot of humility in bear markets. In bear markets, I suspect that a few were eating Ramen noodles when their big bets didn't pay off. I even caught one "high end" guy who refused to eat at common chain restaurants eating at McDonald's once. People are people. We are all the same (equals).
For anyone who reads my reviews they will know that I love $260 Kgirls on a regular basis. They are totally predictable and provide the warm and wet feeling that most of us are looking for.However, I have seen several $700 and $800 ladies. It was my choice based on my preference for their looks and the fantasy I wanted to create. I love tall, slim women in high heels and expensive lingerie, including stockings and garter belts. For the time I spent with the expensive women, I was generally pleased. It was my fantasy! Only once or twice with very young (22~24 year old new girls) was I disappointed. It is totally shocking to me that they believe they can charge $400 or $500 and think that DFKing, FIV and BBBJ2Cim is not on the menu. Of course I recognize that is their right as it is their body. However, no one should advertise girlfriend experience with that type of limited menu.
If you are paying that premium for a supposedly "educated" girl. You think she will show you her credentials?
At 1k she better be BB'ing you fully and swallowing every drop you got ....LOL
1K and she still won't post her face or send you face photos? Who is the sucker
Every time I have booked a girl who is more expensive that "normal" I had high expectations.. After it was over, guess what? it was the same.. I got off had a great time and enjoyed the experience pretty much the same regardless of price.
Some girls have decided to charge more.. that's up to them.. I can decide to spend more too.. but usually, at the end of the day, it's pretty much the same..
The one caveat is that reviews here.. DO matter generally.. If you go to a girl with no or few reviews and she smells of smoke, makes you wait.. asks you to leave after 15 minutes... or looks at her phone while she is riding you.. blame yourself.. but given great reviews.. or good reviews.. what the heck.. within a certain range..
I love big heavy red wines. I have a few, particularly good Australian Shiraz from the Barossa Valley, that are my ATF's. they're solid, lovely, predictable, expensive enough to be quality but priced so I can afford a bottle when the fancy takes me.
On the other hand I've been gifted and treated to bottles of $4/500 Grange and the like which, whilst being great, didn't blow me away to the extent the price tag should warrant and I've happily gone back to my $50/100 bottles.
Likewise on the odd occasion I've had a $20 bottle that's totally surprised me with its depth and complexity and is clearly underpriced.
I think this world is similar. There will be $300 girls who are average and some who will knock your socks off, then there will be hyped up, AP and Louboutin clad Victoria's Secret girls at $1k an hour who'll blow your mind and some who'll lay there like starfish and only offer all covered fun.
It's one of life's fun lotterys
makes the woman nor the expectation on any level associated with it. Hi HH, I think its maybe the attitude going in that deciphers it for each individual whether it will meet, exceed or undermine those preconceived thoughts due to that amount they see on the screen.
I think maybe you're setting yourself up for possible failure not being comfortable with her rate no matter if she validates it or not afterward. Maybe stick with something more in your comfort zone mindfully so you haven't defeated yourself (or her) before even going in.
Rates are so subjective here and where we each are comfortably through our own experiences in how we come up with them to begin with. The same can be said about how you view those rates thru the services being provided. All too subjective. I'm certainly not a 1k hr woman but I do have a 1k minimum currently that suits the type of men who choose to see me and the men I agree to see in the same breath. Some would say that creates a somewhat niche market for those interested in that here. Idk but again all too subjective IMO for each person here for all the various scenarios.
I personally think all women found here at any pricepoint exude a certain amount of strength and respect for being here to begin with, no matter how much she gives of herself, or what she gives. Maybe that alone can validate the dollar amount and services for you on some level.
I would say stick with what you're comfortable with so you mentally go in positive and not expecting to be dissatisfied from the getgo. Have fun whichever you choose and remember this is supposed to be fun and pleasurable, not stressful and full of angst and anxiety. Just a thought. Good luck and have fun regardless.💙
In leading taste test most people can't tell the difference btw a 12 bottle of Trader Joe's wine than a 1K bottle from some distant country aged for countless years
Considering most hookers blur their faces or try to hide it completely, whats the difference if you just put a bag over any girl's head.
They pretty much all look the same afterward.
Nothing justify a 1K price tag when you ain't showing your face.
What the difference btw a 400 and 1K hooker with a bag over their head: Nothing
you should probably lower them. Maybe her looks are off the chart, but performance, really? At what point is there diminishing returns in both of those departments? My experience with strippers, and I extrapolate that to escorts, is that the 10's in the looks department act like they are doing you a favor, while a good 7 or 8 will work for that tip. I would much rather have a 7 or 8 in looks but a 10 in performance than a 10 in looks and a 7 or 8 in performance. But that's me, if you want to pay extra for looks and it makes you happy, then more power to you. Please update us when the date is over.
Do what you're used to. Obviously 1k is a huge amount of money to you, and the entire session you're going to be thinking "is this really worth 1k" and it will ruin your session, stick to what you know. Yes different prices tend to not be all that different, but i honestly feel you're just wasting your money, cause by what you've said you're obviously not going to enjoy that session, and you'll end up coming here to write some ranting review or post about it, how it wasn't worth it. i see that coming a mile away.
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1000 and hour and honestly it is the surroundings that are different. I would offer wine or champagne and sometimes beer, dark chocolates or milk chocolates and a cupcake on the way out
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But the fact that you're talking about living human beings rather than something you can attach better suspension and a turbocharger to I agree there are limits on how much better sex can be just because I'm paying more. I've seen a host of porn actresses, the last being for 1200, and with only a couple of exceptions they were disappointing. The last one seemed like she was counting down the minutes in her head until she could leave. I might stick with a dynamite provider through price increases but no way would I see someone brand new for that kind of money again.