I have experienced both. If a provider has regulars (like me) but increases her rate, should I expect to pay the upgraded rate or be "grandfathered" in to keep the old rate? I have been around the hobby for about 20 years, like provider and hobbyist opinion.
I expect most of them grandfather at least for a period. That's been my personal experience. But I don't expect it.
You shouldn't expect anything. I would hope that the old rate would be honored if we'd seen eachother before, but to expect it is a little much.
I remember seeing a girl a few times and really enjoyed her. Then as I was leaving her place she told me I hadn't left her enough money because her rates had gone up. She somehow expected me to check that. I never saw her again.
The way I look at it, if I know a girl well enough that I don't book through, or even look at her ads/website, then it's incumbent on her to let me know if there is any change in her rates. If I am seeing her every week or two for a while and have reached the point where I simply text her "are you busy tomorrow" rather than going through her usual routine of booking a session, yes I do expect to be grandfathered. Or at least for her to tell me if and when she has a change in rates.
In a case like what you describe, that would be my last session with her as well.
30 days to six months, but they do eventually want you to pay the current posted rate. Then its on us whether to continue or not.
Personally, I try to make my decision at least a little scientifically, by asking myself "how good was that last blowjob."
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and then stop booking, and expect you to start hanging out just as friends, texting every day blah blah blah.
If you raise your rates on them even a little, even if your time/price minimum has tripled since two years prior, some get really insulted or hurt, and it's just awkward.
I can see why some don't grandfather.
Also, Some get spiteful, and start "marking their territory" in odd ways, feeling threatened that other clients are paying you more. Lots of ppl don't do this and graciously accept, but man, it only takes 1 or 2 to make you wonder if it's a great idea.
I always think it's awkward, but over time I think grandfathering forever isn't the best idea, as incentive for faithfulness can backfire. So I see why some might not.
I like when people Just accept it graciously, and aren't difficult to talk to about it.
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I've experienced the exact same thing. To me, it shows a lack of class to not grandfather loyal regulars, for at least a short period of time. Some ladies forget that there are other providers out there who are more than happy to snap up the regulars of providers who have come down with GPS.
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besides what has been communicated to you. Each provider deals with the matter of "grandfathering" regulars differently. Some may convey publicly, in adverts and/or directly on their website that regulars are welcome to see them at their prior rate. Some may do this in a non-public manner via a newsletter or private correspondence. And of course there are providers who may not grandfather anyone. In my opinion, a client would know. And if it wasn't stated, the appropriate thing to do is to be prepared with the current rate.
I don't think necessarily a guy would know. For me, I am not going to go contacting the guys out of the blue to let them know the such. I wait til he contacts me and I state the such, which typically for me means Grandfathered in (in most cases). It doesn't always hold true for me for everyone though. Depends on many factors and frankly, if I haven't seen you but once in a year... you now have the new rate applied. If you contacted me but we didn't meet and now you want to meet when i have new rate, it's new rate time. Most of my regulars know they'd be Grandfathered in anyways as I may mention it when meeting if I am upping my rate soon.
Since some women have different standards of Grandfathering (or not), it is best to make it clear by mentioning it, if she doesn't bring it up. I think it is reasonable to ask if you are her regular. It shouldn't be something she should get mad about IMHO. just make sure to word it politely and not sound like her new rate isn't worth it. I know some guys just do the new rate to avoid getting a lady mad. That's really up to you. I would think you shouldn't ask if you only saw her infrequently unless she brings it up, but you never know what some ladies are fine with.
I most certainly would NOT assume all on your own that her old rate applies! That's a great way to piss her off.
That is just common sense and common business practice to me.
Personally, I would "expect" to pay the same rate I paid last time I saw her, if I were a reg of hers.
Anytime I have been a "regular," there wouldn't be any need for me to constantly check her website or ads.
If she doesn't say anything at all, the assumption is that she GF you.
I will say this. If she did raise rates on me, I wouldn't be a client of hers any longer, again, IF I was a regular and lining her pocket on a consistent basis.
I'm shocked Jack.
Why would you let that opportunity blow by you?
Sounds a lot like covfefe to me
That is just common sense and common business practice to me.
Personally, I would "expect" to pay the same rate I paid last time I saw her, if I were a reg of hers.
Anytime I have been a "regular," there wouldn't be any need for me to constantly check her website or ads.
If she doesn't say anything at all, the assumption is that she GF you.
I will say this. If she did raise rates on me, I wouldn't be a client of hers any longer, again, IF I was a regular and lining her pocket on a consistent basis.
But you knew this.
One thing I'd bet you didn't know was that your gal blamed her loss on the DNC today, but she is taking "full responsibility" for it which should make you feel better. LOL
If she was a hooker and got stung, she would blame the johns. And the police. And the legislators. And Louboutin. LOL
negotiate anything at the end of a session with all those after-sex endorphins running through your body. You would most assuredly come out on the short end. By the end, you would be handing her your wallet and just say "take what you need." Lol
Once I have cum, all the blood rushes back to my "big head" and I begin to think rationally again. If a woman wants to get the most out of me when all my defenses are down the time to do it is right before sex when all I can think about is getting laid, not after I have come back to my senses.
I can't forget all the stupid promises I have made with a hard dick that I have immediately regretted after busting a nut.
A stiff prick has no conscience. And no brain.
I think the solution might be to negotiate the day before. Lol
The point is to line her pockets and she gives you stellar service. That's how it works... I'm sorry but it feels like there is a disconnect with loyalty here.
If she's your girl, treat her well.
At the rate they first saw me at. Some were very kind to give me more when I raised my rate.
But all regulars get to keep the rate they see me at and they are the only ones that I give specials to 
Your smart business women. I am impressed. Just know your clients. I have no problem paying the new rate. However, I am offended when a lady I have seen a while charges me more than her published rate because it is me. That stings.
I walked away from her and she felt bad. Not because she lost me as a client but lost my $3,000 dollars. I hate feeling like a ATM.
Some grandfather some don't.I would ask her so there's no confusion
Xoxo
London
I grandfather and many do, but depending on where they started, I raised those up a bit after 4 years. Still lower than new contacts.
Manyladies consider it rude of any friendnot to honor the published donations. Worth communicating...to be clear
When you book, and only if you have seen her several times, politely inquire if you qualify to be grandfathered Some will gladly give you their old rate, some will not. Depends on history and their etiquette policies.
...If I've seen a provider for a few years and she raises her rates, I would expect her to grandfather me. She should show me the same loyalty I've shown her. She doesn't have to screen me, she doesn't have to worry about who she'll see when she opens the door and she has a regular customer.
If she wants me to pay the increased rate - fuck her, or more precisely, I WON'T be fucking her anymore.
I don't expect or assume my old rate is the same. I have four regulars that I see and will discretely ask once a year or so to make sure we are on the same page. I know they have different rates when they go on tour, are close to home, or in my hometown.
All is them have grandfathered me in. I do too as well and they know I do my best to value their services and time.
A while ago one of them quoted me a number for an overnight. Plans did not work out then. I recently asked her to confirm overnight rate as I want to see if we can try it again.
I dont want to be presumptuous or have a business issue.
I recently had an internal debate in my mind what to do when this happened. OTM, will love this, but a lady friend had different rates on Eros and other sites. I continued to pay the rate I first saw her, but I've always tipped close to her newer higher rate. I relied on the assumption of don't ask don't tell. If my donation and tip weren't enough, she should tell me. So far, she has not ignored my requests for a meeting, so I think I am Ok with the GF rate. If you've seen her enough times, she should be comfortable bringing this up. You of course have the option of moving on. But if she isn't GF'ing you then you know where you stand in the pecking order.
Three different personas, three different rates.
I know you've mentioned this lady before. No I have not seen her. But I did mention on a thread awhile ago that if she got me to visit through a certain site and rate, I am not going to complain about it. You mentioned just today that you spent 900 on a lady and left with a smile. If she got me there, and rocked my world, I'm not going to be upset because it was cheaper somewhere else. A good time is a good time. 100 bucks difference isn't going to change my view of the experience.
I don't recall how different the rates were for the lady in question, but she has yet to apologize for it. Far from it.
You must be drunk. lmao
I'm not a hooker, but I own a small business and I don't continue to work for old rates once I've raised my rates. I raised rates when I became more skilled and of higher value and to slow business down when I started getting more business than I could handle.
I don't know why anyone would or should expect an old rate? I had customers let me go and hire me back 6 months later and it was the new rate not the old rate. Johns think they have some kind of connection with their sex worker ATFs and feel because they have a connection or some shit they are special and should...could...get the old rate...a little OTC time...a special understanding. If a woman raises her rates, she has her reasons and you have two choices. Yes or pass.
In your small business, are you ever concerned a new client will hold a knife to your throat and rape you?
That's just one reason grandfathering is more common in hooking than in other lines.
So a girl should consider providing her regulars with old rates so one doesn't get violently angry with her and cut her throat? WTF?! I get the hobby can be dangerous but your mind is in a dark place! Jesus 👀
I was being a bit facetious. But there's a reason providers screen potential clients carefully (the conscientious ones do, anyway). For that same reason, they like to hold onto clients they know are safe.
Money talks. The new rate always prevails. If no one calls for your time slot, or she has a cancellation/no show, she'll fit you in at the old rate last minute. But don't expect to plan a session a week in advance.
That begs the question, what if her rate goes down for lack of business? Do you grandfather an atf at her old, higher rate? I've been in the hobby 45 years, and that has happened.
So happy so see someone here older than me.
I/we can't help it if you were a late starter.
But when you are 85 and you are hiring a hot nurse to change your adult diaper, it takes on a whole new meaning. lol
but I bet the poor nurse isn't.
Since I am only 58, 85 is still 27 years off, I suppose whatever nurse is going to be changing my adult diaper is still at least a couple of years from being born, much less dreading what's in store for her. lol
I can see it now:
What are you going to be when you grow up?
"I am going to be changing a Manwhore's diaper and giving him something extra" LMFAO
Does that become pee/poo play in that scenario? The horror.
Since I am only 58, 85 is still 27 years off, I suppose whatever nurse is going to be changing my adult diaper is still at least a couple of years from being born, much less dreading what's in store for her. lol
When ever you encounter she might wonder how long have you been using that unit? Also you can ask her if she looks cute if she has a part time job at another office? That is after you look at her fingers to determine if she is married.
you should wait for her to say so. dont assume.
...with providers and have always paid the same rate as we started with, UNLESS she tells me otherwise.
I usually don't review her ad or profile if we've seen each other in the last few months and I'll let her tell me if something changes regarding our upcoming time together (one of those things might be the rate).
ONLY actual grandfathers would be grandfathered in.
you want to be "grand-uncled" in? I don't think that has the same traction with a provider.
... anyone would *expect* that. Expectation is the mother of disappointment. You could hope for it... But expecting it sounds like a silly thing to do.
I agree, to a point, with some that if you've seen her a few times, you could assume she'd communicate with you about the rate change. But it's always good to remember you're not her only client and sometimes things can get confusing, especially amidst changes, so try not to be offended if she doesn't tell you ahead of time. I understand this can be an awkward situation, though.
I believe it's always good policy to keep up with the latest updates about a provider you're going to see, whether you're a regular or not. Check her website/ad; there might be changes other than rates, like photos, tour dates, and etiquette, that might be interesting for you to know ahead of time.
I guess there shouldn't be the assumption that you're automatically grandfathered in, but from my experience (and it seems like quite a few others), there is grandfathered pricing put in place. From my neck of the woods, whenever a girl plans on doing an increase, she'll usually give a deadline special for people to see her before the price hike. It helps both parties: she gets a boost in clients and clients get locked in at a lowered rate.
I contact my regulars and let them know that my published rates have increased but the increase does not apply to them, that I will be happy to continue seeing them at our current rate.
You'd be surprised at the men who will ask for the old rates - someone who I last saw two years ago, or unbelievably someone who booked me in the past but cancelled!
There is a lot of merit with all different perspectives. For the most part, I usually don't look at rate first thing when searching for dates. I am not a wealthy man and I am surprised that someone I thought was special would cut me loose for $50 or $100 bucks. Lot of ladies out there, the majority I pay the increase and don't say a word.
I never look at their rate again. I feel it's on her to tell me-before we confirm the date-that her rate has increased and I am expected to pay the new rate. It's not all that hard and doesn't have to be confrontational. A simple text/email that says something like "looking forward to seeing you again, but please check my new rate sheet before you confirm"...easy peasy. Also, I usually tip a regular well enough that it is more than enough to cover any rate increase-just now she is getting a smaller tip in her eyes.
I'm in the habit of checking rates before I place money in an envelope. I assume I will be paying the advertised rate.
Yes, it takes an extra few minutes to check her website each time. However it avoids any indignity or conflict over rates and helps to keep the relationship intact. Moreover, it gives her the opportunity to do something nice for me (grandfather) while I avoid looking like an entitled douche.
Yes You Should Expect To Pay Her New Rate.....and willingly.
Any Other Questions ? (Gasoline went up 4 cents per gallon-I paid the lesser amount 2 days ago.....Guess what ? Paying new increased rate today or......no gas !) (Get it ?)
I have experienced both. If a provider has regulars (like me) but increases her rate, should I expect to pay the upgraded rate or be "grandfathered" in to keep the old rate? I have been around the hobby for about 20 years, like provider and hobbyist opinion.
It's not always about the money. Sometimes I really enjoy being with my regular, that I many not even charge him.... it's a thank you for being such great company and a loyal client...
Sweet kisses,
Frederica
Well......If the gal feels that a fella has become a regular and decides to raise her prices but......decides to tell certain of her "regulars" that she is going up on her rate but.....yours will remain the same...nothing wrong with that of course...but for the fella to not expect a rate increase....duh ??
Guess what-it is about "The Money" !
The Gal's know what their time is worth-and should charge accordingly -they have a lot of expenses and none seem to be going down !
Just play along !
I'm fucking OLD ... lol
that envelope from AARP away.
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Considering all the times a new client has come at me with the line, " I will be a regular if you knock down the donation", I think some gentlemen have a different view of what constitutes "regular". I have had some customers for years; I think giving them the consideration of their loyalty is just being polite and having gratitude. However, there are some who will try any and all angles to get a "deal", and those are the ones for whom I would insist on the new rates. I really care about client experience and I find myself more comfortable with those who reciprocate the respect.
They just raised the price of a good KC Strip by 2 bucks.
Should I assume they will charge me the old price ?
Most of the ladies I've seen through the years that have raised their rates have voluntarily " grandfathered " me.
It's always appreciated. But not assumed.
I have yet to go to a restaurant where the menu is not given to me before dining. I can clearly see if there is a price increase. This thread Is more about whose responsibility it is to inform about a price increase. I'll check a lady's website a few times, but I don't do so before each meeting.
Hi I am Deanna and when I do have a price increase I normally let my very loyal regulars keep the old rates
I guess it depends on how many times you've seen the provider. There are a couple that I refuse to see because their increase request came off a bit rude, this is after I've seen one of them multiple times over the years. On the flip side, I saw a highly regarded lady once and she increased her rates after ranking in the Top 25. She contacted me and said that I was "grandfathered" in at the old rate.
My regulars don't check my site or maybe they do but I don't assume that they know when donations increase. I just keep my guys at the previous rate. If they have treated me well and are good clients I'm all for treating them to a discount.
I'm hearing a lot of "I'd dump her" or "that would be the last time I see her"
Where's your loyalty? If you found a good girl, just pay.
That chemistry is hard to replace.
Don't you agree?
My guys can pretty well assume to pay the rate they did before any increases. If I feel like increasing them, then I direct them to my new rate. I only do that when I haven't seen him in a long time, only seen him a few times, or if he requires more from me where I'd want to get paid more because of it (yes there are high maintenance men out there!). Many tip anyways.
However I do not suggest assuming that he even knows of the rate increase and also he shouldn't assume he is grandfathered in. Ladies all have different ways of what they do and don't.
Personally love when a guy who I use to see every two weeks for years contacts me, after ghosting for 6 years, and wants the old rate. Sorry NO. True story, by the way.
when it comes to "regulars". I have at this time only one "regular" and I only get to see her every 3-4 months as she has moved from MB to the DC area. She emails me every time she is going to be in the area and I move heaven and earth to make an appt-always 2 hours. I have been seeing this woman regularly ever since I started hobbying in 2007 except for the period of abstinence during my divorce. My point is that if you are truly a "regular"....someone who sees a lady regularly (duh) over a period of time. If that's the case, I would think there is rapport there to get past these issues. Just because I saw someone 2 times over the past 3 months doesn't qualify.
Who is more of a regular, the guy who sees her at most 3-4 times a year, or the guy that sees her every week for six months? Both could make the argument they are a "regular", but one of them certainly makes a bigger impact on her bottom line.
I grandfather regulars but if I saw you once two years ago you do not qualify as a regular so yes I expect the new rate.
Same with my special for B-day where ,again for regular,you get to see me 2h instead of 1h for the price of 1 hr .
But like it happened to me a few years ago I had this regular (for me it means I see you every month or about)
and he did get the special on his B-day.
Then he disappeared for 4 years and out of the blue I got to see him again,I was delighted till he said something to the effect that did he still have to pay my full rate as his B-day was soon?
Hum,I was a so surprised that I was maybe not as diplomatic as I should have and just said that it was a regular special and 3 years apart meeting was quite long?
But as for the question yes ,it is also nice to eventually catch up on the rate after a while,I mean if you are a regular it means you are enjoying her?
Just ask, better to be safe then have an awkward situation .... Remember you can always go elsewhere ..
Then again the provider knows what she is getting in advance from you ... since you have an established
relationship ... I believe that is why most ladies will grandfather in .. if so be polite and keep it to yourself
you may be the only one she extends this benefit to. The same goes for any type of discount or variation
in her performance which may not be posted on her site or in reviews. I had one that wanted me to be her very
first anal ... and that Never made my review. Good to see an old timer I remember when this site was Big Doggie
Spinner39
hobby well hobby safe hobby all you can be .....
My feeling is that guys like me that took a chance on her when she was starting are the reason she CAN raise rates.
I never haggle over price but this would be the exception.
If I'm not sure, the best thing to do is to ask her if the new rate also applies to me, although I think the onus is really on her to let me know so as to avoid confusion.
I would ask the provider as clients can be grandfathered in at the old rate. It is all up to the provider that you are asking. Everyone is different on how they handle things.
when your p4p pal tells you about her pending rate increase. And not to worry about it, it doesn't include you.
My first ATF offered me rate that would allow me to see her a lot. She gave me 100 reasons. After about 6 years she demurely mentioned that her suggestion was not intended to be forever. That was after our fuckfest. I demurely asked if 200 reasons would make her happy. She smiled. I smiled.
Now I am her grandfather ... lol
Expectations placed on other people are the root of all resentments and resentments lead me to drinking and drinking leads me to thinking that chick over there sure has a big bulge in her pants and then I wake up with an ass ache...
Never expect anything.
I have quite a few clients that I see me on a consistent basis three to four times a month and I've seen them for 7 years. It's funny because we sit back sometimes and can't believe how the time has passed. They remember my birthday, and buy me gifts. They make it their business to come see me before, if they can't they text me. They even text me on Mother's Day or just text me to let me know they are thinking about me. It's the little things! But I don't ask them for these things, but we have a wonderful NSA relationship. They are definitely grandfathered!
One of them moved away for three years overseas for work and would still see me when he came into town once every six months. When he moved back he knew my rates had increased and paid the increase, not a big deal for him and no complaints from him, for what I what I offer.
I will say this that no client should assume that they are grandfathered. I've had people see me one or twice a year and they think that this warrants a grandfathered rate. No! They are wrong. I can't grandfather you on a once or twice a year basis when I have clients that see me 3 to 4 times in a month.