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xxxenvy4u See my TER Reviews 2641 reads
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I've always used only email, dms, p411 dms to communicate.
Recently I listed my number and advised to text only until screened to weed out the time wasters.  And yet I get calls 24/7 p.us a bunch of text like..."hi" , "hey beautiful", ect. In my ads I asked for a nice introduction meaning at least a first name inquiring about booking an appt.  
since posting my number, there's a guy who keeps asking for my address to send me a holiday card the last four holidays.

Providers: Do you respond to these text that are not serious?

Hobbyist: Do you introduce yourself with such? And how many of you actually read ads?

Sorry, it sucks, but hobbyists are not gentleman, we're animals. That's your clientele unfortunately.

No.  It does not have to suck.  Many of us are gentlemen.  I always try to treat my providers with the respect they deserve as I greatly appreciate that they are sharing the most intimate experience possible with someone they don't even know or see only infrequently.  Life is too short to be a jackass.

There are many gentleman such as him that treat providers respect & don't waste their time.  I was speaking in generalization, there's plenty of bad fish out there, sorry you have to run into that.

imanalias41 reads

First - I email giving my information and references along with cell phone. I may suggest a day and time, but never earlier than a couple of days.

Next, I wait for a reply. If they require more information I will send then wait.

If verified I ask if it’s ok to schedule by texting. Some say yes others say no. Some manage by emails only others want a call.  

I read the ads, website, TER profile, reviews, before my introduction to be clear what gifts and limits there may be. Wouldn’t want to waste your time, or mine.

...THREE emails to accomplish what can be done in one email.  See mrfisher's post below to see how it should be done.

You handle things the proper way and get priority I can tell you. 😘

...until the day of the appointment. Then it's text or call. There are some exceptions to this but it's with ladies I've seen before or if they state in an ad or their site that call or text is preferred.  

 
This happens all the time everywhere in every business. People don't read, can't read, won't read or don't care. Some have an entitled attitude, some just forgot and do whatever comes to mind when the actually try to contact for the appointment. You'll go crazy if you let get to you. The problem you're having is why many providers don't publish their numbers.

First email is always an intro with references, and a suggested appointment time. Once the appointment is confirmed, a couple of days before, I'll text "Hi (your name), can't wait to see you on (day), (my name)" that way she has my number, I have her number in my phone, I'm reminding her of the appointment in case she forgot and I'm reconfirming on my end. Day of the appointment, I text for directions and stuff. No need for random "hi beautiful" texts. Unless you're into that kind of stuff.

For introductions I prefer e-mail; I’m better in writing and in person than over the phone.

 
I got in touch with my first Provider through TER PM (I had specific question about her rules and service).  I introduced myself to my second Provider via voicemail, which was as her webpage requested.  Since then we do everything via text as that’s what they both seem to prefer.

 
When looking at prospective Provider, I look over their TER profile, read their reviews, study their webpage (if any) and look at any ads that I can find.  If I decide to contact a Provider for the first time, I’ll endeavor to follow her instructions so as to make a good first impression.

 
It goes without saying that you shouldn’t give that guy/potential psycho your address (but of course I said it anyway; I don’t want anything to happen to any of the ladies).

Some don’t read and just got straight to the posted contact information.

Best practice is to never include your phone in your ads.

I give all the screening info you request and a specific day, time, and length of appointment.  

I can the jibber-jabber.  

This usually works quite well.

I NEVER post my phone number for this reason.  Much easier to weed through the shit in my email, TER or P411 messages than through texts.  

Yes, also the other reason for not posting my number in ads is the occasional Penis Photo aka dick picks, lol

Once I feel confident we are talking about dates and times I give out my number. To me that's demarcation that shows this person has been vetted and screened by me.  It's best to include the handle each new conversation.  
I will block numbers of time wasters and takers. I just cull and weed all that out until I have a little pile of gold!

John_Laroche36 reads

Asking for an address so he can send a gift? That's either seriously insulting to your intelligence or seriously demented.

Do you introduce yourself with such?
 

I send a PM in P411 to introduce myself and provide a couple different days and times I'm available, 3-7 days out. I allow a 24-36 hours for a response. If she gets back to me and verifies that she is available for a playdate, I send a formal request immediately to lock in the day and time she choose. I request switching to text the day of the play date and get my directions that way. I actually add a little information of my personal stats in my profile bio section. I rarely have any issues at all. Hard to say how long these guys have been hobbying and what their experience level is? Some guys won't use verification sites. I can't imagine experienced guys doing those things you mentioned above, unless they are so lazy, or in such a hurry, they just send out texts to multiple girls to see who they can get lined up the fastest?    

how many of you actually read ads?
 

I certainly made the kinds of contact mistakes mentioned above before I knew better and got on a verification site for a one stop shop approach to having fun. I do read ads as far as price, availability and personal stats. I think all that extra stuff you have to write is to notify people who don't have a verification site account? Because none of that stuff seems to apply to me as far as screening etc since I use my P411 account to set up appointments.

That holiday card guy you mentioned made me think of that Van Halen song Jamie's Cryin' LOL, but it's the John's who are cryin'! I changed the lyrics  

And so they said goodnight
And now SHE'S gone forever
HE wants to send HER a letter yeah, yeah
Just to try to make HIMSELF feel better
It said, "Give me"
("Give me a call sometime")
But HE knows what that'll get HIM
Oh, Oh, Oh, John is cryin'

 I think you got him sprung! Creeper alert! LOL.

possibly want to know up front.  My INITIAL text or email states:

-First name,
-Age
-Ethnicity
-Profession
-Day and Time desired for apt
Last two providers seen WITH phone numbers (If she has to look anything up, response will take longer)

 
This has never failed to get a satisfactory and timely response for me.  She can check my refs BEFORE responding at all.  If she doesn't like what she hears from them, she can ghost me if she wants.  This same approach works with agencies AND independents.

It is really a bummer to have to go back and forth and tease out every detail. Even if you are just shooting in the dark with days and times, DO IT!! Put something in there because it tells me that  you are serious about making an appointment.  To me that's enough right there to give out my number. you may not want my number CDL, lol but you'd get it if you did that.

MNHotdish38 reads

I use my hobby phone number to communicate info exchange at the time of appointment through a text or call.  After the session, I add contact info as a frame of reference for future communication.  Some hobbyists request text going forward for privacy reasons, by then we have had a conversation.  That being said, my number has been harvested and posted, without my knowing, on unauthorized sites which I constantly work to have removed.
  The random, short, vague and nondescript one or two word texts are ignored or redirected to my official page and request form.  This is typical Millenial acceptable conversation on the flurry of swipe left/swipe right hook up sites to bait a girl into conversation, sending pics or sexting.  
  Writing today is a discipline and an art, not an expectation.  A man who reads and writes back appropriately in whatever form the provider asks for is sexy as hell and has begun the art of foreplay.  In the dating world I’d find it incredibly disrespectful, here I take every communication as it cums (pun intended).

Honestly if she needs more she will ask.  I will add if I’m flexible with day and time in the message section. About 95% of the time I get quick response, yes or no.
I talk as much as they do.  Really not interested in a lot of talk, pretty much researched who I see.
Don’t complicate it.  I will text if they offer usually a couple of dates later.  KISS

Stay Thirsty

Dear Envy,  
This is the rudimentary sequence of how you should release information:  First let him submit his information for screening (I.E Providers email, website and Stage Name).  After you analyze and verify his information, then give your hobby phone to get particulars.  Always keep that private at all times.

Posted By: xxxenvy4u

I've always used only email, dms, p411 dms to communicate.  
 Recently I listed my number and advised to text only until screened to weed out the time wasters.  And yet I get calls 24/7 p.us a bunch of text like..."hi" , "hey beautiful", ect. In my ads I asked for a nice introduction meaning at least a first name inquiring about booking an appt.  
 since posting my number, there's a guy who keeps asking for my address to send me a holiday card the last four holidays.  
   
 Providers: Do you respond to these text that are not serious?  
   
 Hobbyist: Do you introduce yourself with such? And how many of you actually read ads?

Mr.M.Johnson37 reads

But, I’ve only been on the TER Boards for ~1 year - I frankly didn’t know these Boards existed.
I’ve never spoke with a fellow hobbier.
I had absolutely NO IDEA that this texting, love-emails, “hey babe” etc. etc. occurred. Damn
My guess is that these kinda guys are (A) bored, (B) wacko, (C) “get off” so-to-speak on harassing ladies, or (D) all of these
I think it’s (D)
Just my $.02

Very few P411 with TER reviews come thru my little area of paradise. Mainly I get BP girls who mostly want you to contact them by phone or text which i am not willing to do to begin with. I really just want to set up a date and time by mail to begin with and once appointment has been set I will give out my number but would really prefer to not call or text a girl until the morning of appointment. This costs me seeing girls of course and I really wish more BP only girls would at least allow e-mail contact so we can discuss things like their rates as most of the time they do noy even list them in their ads more less have any reviews.

I have said this before I really do not need to have phone sex with a provider prior to a appointment as we have plenty of time once we are together for dirty talk.

You just described my perfect appointment.  
*swoon*
Hi I’m interested ✔️
Here’s all my verification info without trying to negotiate ✔️
Here’s the set day and time ✔️
Talk to you then. ✔️
I’ve been told I view sexual encounters like a man though so that’s not surprising. Most clients are wonderful and get it; so far I’ve only had one that might be pushing the limit. Glad most of you fellas feel this way.
~Arianna

@xxxenvy4u    
@xyz23    as you Sir spoke:

"This happens all the time everywhere in every business.  
People don't read, can't read, won't read or don't care.  
Some have an entitled attitude, some just forgot and do whatever  
comes to mind when the actually try to contact for the appointment.  
You'll go crazy if you let get to you.  
The problem you're having is why many providers don't publish their numbers."

 
I couldn't agree more!  
It is with my great frustration and amazement, that people don't realize that  
initial contact is key, for a "make-it-or-break-it-date", in the P4P world or the Civvie dating
realm.
{Furthermore, one whom doesn't enjoy following a Provider's procedure for booking,
  is one whom may be a " boundary-crosser". }    

For those like myself with discerning taste and very limited time, one whom follows  
my scheduling protocol,  is swiftly appreciated with a reply and an expeditious tryst.

I do not desire to be phoned versus a text/email because, my "civvie life" does not allow for
"private conversation", unless it is scheduled.  

I'm certain that if the shoe were on the other foot, most Gents wouldn't want us calling  
at all hours of the day and night,  { as you answer the phone, whilst next to your Wife/S.O. ....
"hey baby, I can see you tonight at 11pm....I can't wait!"  Bebesitos 💋 }

"You'll go crazy if you let it get to you."  

Would love for you to ride my pole..

And Macdaddy, bad boy!  
I can say upon the advice of another well known provider friend, by listing my number, it has increased biz.  However, the tacky text like, "hi", do not even get a response. I value those who take the time to properly introduce themselves.

I use text and email as well but get tons of text saying Hi Beautiful, Hi, What's up. No introduction just that and it usually just drives me nuts. At times I don't even bother to respond or I will respond explaining what I need and it is still an issue. I have considered taking my cell down at times but I do get some serious clients as well. It can get super frustrating at times. I feel your pain.

will increase volume the downside is timewasters.  As a low volume provider, I prefer my contact form submitted and an added introduction is always nice.  I swap numbers after verification.  I like for hobbyist to call me, at his convenience the day before to confirm.  Phone call, email or text upon arriving at location.  I love it also when someone interested for a future date sends me an introduction email for precertification.  And the upside to them is they get insider updates and I can remain under the radar somewhat.

And yep I get some who can't read my no phone calls policy. And the texts oh my. Lots of time wasters so when I have time I like to mess with them. Lmao. Sometimes I see opportunity to amuse myself and I need some comic relief. Sitting in hotel rooms can be boring what can I say.

I silence my phone while sleeping so rarely do the actual phone calls affect me...

In regards to the uninspired text messages I see when I wake up:

I respond with something obviously sarcastic and call them out for their ungentlemanly horned up behavior. My approach is 70% calling them out 20% playful, 10% educational (I have some canned responses saved in my iCloud notes letting them know what they should have said) Most of my responses to those inappropriate late night/early morning texts go unacknowledged...but I estimate that roughly 10% result in capturing a fantastic new client. A man who is able to laugh at themselves & their bad behavior the previous night. Most often they are embarrassed at their (often) alcohol inspired behavior and appreciate me using humor to lighten the mood.  

I use copy/paste so I don’t waste a bunch of my time, and the handful of gents that respond have been some of my favorite new clients.

My two cents.

Xxx
Maddy

Posted By: xxxenvy4u

I've always used only email, dms, p411 dms to communicate.  
 Recently I listed my number and advised to text only until screened to weed out the time wasters.  And yet I get calls 24/7 p.us a bunch of text like..."hi" , "hey beautiful", ect. In my ads I asked for a nice introduction meaning at least a first name inquiring about booking an appt.  
 since posting my number, there's a guy who keeps asking for my address to send me a holiday card the last four holidays.  
   
 Providers: Do you respond to these text that are not serious?  
   
 Hobbyist: Do you introduce yourself with such? And how many of you actually read ads?

I get these, because I do publish my number.

They are annoying, I guess, but really not a major issue for me? Every job has annoying stuff to deal with and I just consider time-wasters part of the "cost of doing business".  If I minded doing the admin/communication side of running my business, I would get an assistant.  But I don't mind the time-wasters enough to pay someone 10-40% of what I make to ignore dumb texts for me.  I can ignore dumb texts just fine, and it doesn't even take up much of my time.

To be clear- time wasters and "fantasy bookers" are NOT the same as NCNS.  I do not consider being no-showed a reasonable thing to have to put up with.

And dumb texts- I just ignore the worst of them, but most of them get a SUPER business-like reply. Nothing fun for jerk-offs, just instructions on how a person seriously intending to book should go about it.  Sometimes I humor people a little, but if I send you a selfie, you can bet it's one that's already posted to my twitter.  Mostly I just wake up in the morning and send out a half dozen "Thank you for your interest, please use the booking form on my site" texts to the drunk guys who texted me at 2am.  Doesn't take much time, and every once in a while one of them turns out to be an actual client.  But mostly it just makes me feel like no one can go around saying I don't answer my phone or texts.  I respond, in some way, to almost everyone, but I never give them anything fun or more than a couple minutes of phone time for free.

I always draft a nice well written email to ladies first.  It's about three paragraphs talking about them and me.  I give all the needed information so they feel comfortable.  Afterward, when I'm verified I'll stick with email until I want to book an appointment.  On that day, or the day prior, I'll text because it's jus easier.  

But, I don't like texting until needed.

If you dont have a P.O. Box or a safe way to receive gifts and mail without divulging your personal address the safest way is to accept e-gift cards. They can send you a virtual gift card to your email address using a e-gift card vendor. Major retailers offer this and I am sure Visa, Amex, and MasterCard have a similar option. There are tons of ways to send someone an e-holiday card. Ever hear of e-greetings?

Don't be stupid and jeopardize your safety. This person is obviously fishing for your information to harm you. If you have never met with this person there is no reason for you to keep this conversation going. This person has no intentions of ever meeting you and you should never give out your personal address unless you have met with them previously and have an established connection. That person should have been blocked a long time ago. I don't know why you would entertain them by continuing to communicate with them. People who want to see you would have completing a booking request within 1 hour of contacting you. They won't drag out pointless conversation for a long period of time and they certainly wont want to send you any holiday cards before personally meeting you.  

When it comes to someone reading your ad... it really depends on where you post. If you post on sites that have a large user base of newbs or low life people like BP, 90% of the people who contact you will not read your ad. If you post on sites where the user base is more exclusive and geared toward a certain community such as Twitter the people who contact you will only reach you after reading your ads thoroughly, reading your reviews, reading all pages on your website, and are 100% positive that you are someone they must absolutely see.

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