... "hotel incalls" which means I book the room and charge extra to cover the cost of the room. That's all upfront and mentioned on my site with donation costs. If something changes and the room is extra or that particular hotel is booked, the costs and arrangements are still on me.
When a provider asks to switch an incall to outcall and says she will make the arrangements, what's the protocol for picking up the hotel cost?
If you've booked and paid for an incall and she needs to switch to an outcall due to something on her end, then the cost is on her, though she may just choose to cancel instead.
If you haven't made an appointment yet, and she's now saying incalls are no longer available and she only does outcalls, then it's on you.
Incall = her place or she reserves and pays for the room. It's hers to use as she needs for as long as the room is booked (presumably till the next AM)
Outcall = your place or your hotel room. The room is yours for the night. She leaves. You can stay and call another hooker or go home.
Ask her what the hell she means by Outcall and she'll make the arrangements, because they are contradictory.
Exactly. If she's getting the room then that's an incall. Nothing wrong with jacking up the rate to cover that cost, if it's up front. If she's getting the room and then forwarding the bill to the OP, and if they had already confirmed, that's an upsell. We all covered this recently.
Totally agree, "outcall" and she makes arrangements makes no sense at all, unless the OP asked her to do something funny because he's afraid of the CC bill busting him or something.
... "hotel incalls" which means I book the room and charge extra to cover the cost of the room. That's all upfront and mentioned on my site with donation costs. If something changes and the room is extra or that particular hotel is booked, the costs and arrangements are still on me.
I agree with JohnL and fearghas
Once, a few hours before our appointment, my ATF told me that her incall apartment was suddenly unavailable, and asked me if I wanted to get a hotel room for us. Because I was her only appointment for the day, she didn't want to get the room herself, and offered to reschedule. But I was really looking forward to seeing her that night, so I got a reasonably priced room in a middle class suburb near my home. She thought the place looked a little shady on the outside, but admitted the room was fine. This only happened once, and all our other appointments have been at her incall apartment or her incall hotel room.
If she is "making the arrangements" then it is still technically an "incall" You are going to HER hotel room, and unless she is trying to upsell you for the cost of the room, the room should be her responsibility.
For it to be a true "outcall" she would be coming to YOUR hotel room, in which case you would have already paid for the room, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
Now if I were to do a little guesswork here, I guess what you might be talking about is her changing from an apartment "incall" to a hotel "incall" due to unforeseen circumstances, and if that is the case, by rights the room should be her responsibility as it is HER room, not yours.
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you have heard from the others and I agree, if she makes the arrangements then it's still an incall and the cost is on her.
I had an interesting scenario present itself that is similar to but not exactly the same as yours. I called someone for an incall as she advertised but she said her incall was not available of she'd have been happy to do it (it was her apartment) but she could do an outcall. I said ok to the outcall and sighed but picked up the room. Then it turns out that her outcall rate was $100 more than incall... so, I think to myself 'am I on the hook for that too?' I thought to myself that that was not at all what I had in mind when I called her, and I don't think I should have had to have paid it, but since it's only money and I didn't want to have to deal with the issue I paid it and swore I'd never see her again... ps she was great and we've seen each other often over the past several years.
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If you get the hotel room, it is yours. You don't let her then go use it for others because it will slap you in the face potentially. It is also an outcall as she'd be coming to your "place".
If she got the room, it is incall. It is hers to do what she wishes after you leave.
Something like what happened to you... If I was the girl, I'd be honest and ask if you'd split the hotel or if I could come to you. Otherwise I'd take the hit myself as I took an incall appt and my situation changed, not yours. I'd honor the appt either way because it was my fault for the change. If it was the other way around and a guy's incall at home became unavailable, I'd expect him to figure it out or get a hotel room, if I didn't have an incall.
I haven't had a provider specifically phrase things to me that same way. However, I have requested a provider to offer me an incall at a more convenient location than their normal incall locale. Since my location preference was more costly, she asked me to split the difference. I just added the (full) cost of the room to her envelope, since she went to the extra effort of making arrangements and traveling a few minutes further for me.
In short... I don't think it's really incall in the situation I described above.
Thanks to all for the helpful responses.
It really just depends on the circumstances but if I did it last minute, I would probably pay. If it was outrageous and the only way I could honor the appt was to make the switch, I might just share that with you and discuss the realities ina down to earth manner.
When a provider asks to switch an incall to outcall and says she will make the arrangements, what's the protocol for picking up the hotel cost?
I had one girl ask if I would let her stay and use the room for the rest of the night... I said no.