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Well, as I said, marketing is used in every fucking business except the fucking business....  The women that have created goldmines from their practices have client lists.  Think Hollywood Madam, the Mayflower Madam, etc.  How do you think Elliot Spitzer got caught?  Did you know one of the principle investors in San Francisco's sewer system was a local brothel owner (female)?  She made a fortune on the bonds.  She had a huge client list, that had everyone, and I mean everyone on it.

Since prostitution is illegal, broadband advertising is a sure way to jail.  But the idea that you would not contact your clients is what will hold you back and make you a small time player forever.  You have to know your client, and know which ones would be receptive to being contacted of course.  If I were your regular client, and I liked you, and trusted you, I would welcome your invitations.  I am sure there are many like me.  Just as I am sure there are many that are not.  But that is your challenge, and the ability to navigate those waters is what separates hookers from madams.  

Posted By: London Rayne
I will NEVER be so bold as to send out a mass mailer or contact them one by one asking them to see me...not going to happen. My idea was more about "them" being the ones to let me know. I post that I may be visiting x city for x amount depending on the number of secured appts. They respond or don't. I know there are many providers who do what you suggested, but I always found that a bit tacky. Unless a guy has specifically asked me to contact him, I am not doing it. Also, I don't keep contacts in my email contact list, so it would have to be via pm which is a pain in the azz.

Well, in a few months I am going to be opening a business locally which is going to result in me not being able to provide and certainly not tour as much, so I am trying to think of some appealing options that would garner maybe 3 or 4 clients a month.

I was thinking about all the requests providers get to "tour and area" but the same guys can't afford to fly us out there in every case to see only them. What about a provider time share?

Say, for 2k plus airfare each guy paid $500 or whatever and the provider would see only those guys who put in to the time share. IOW, if you want say Lina to visit Vegas instead of one guy having to foot the bill, 3 or 4 of you got together and all pitched in knowing you would/could see her during that same 2 or 3 day period she would be in town. Of course, it would be on a deposit bas with a provider you have seen before and can trust not to rip you off, but I am weighing a few options and someone gave me this idea.

I already know by doubling my rates I will be seeing less people overall, as not many guys are ready to up $800 bucks even if it is for 4 hours. I want to be able to still travel now and then, so any suggestions/ideas you guys have would be greatly appreciated. I am simply looking to change my entire business model because I won't be able to work a full-time job and provide the way I have been.

Thanks in advance!

Try to setup a calendar system in your website in which people can make reservation for specific day and time that you are available. Make the reservation time available to the public, of course anonymously, so that if someone wants to pinch in, he can see if he can make a later time of the same date. He will then be "motivated" to pinch in at the days that have 1 or 2 people already, assuming that he is available on multiple occasions. Once say 3 or 4 people are filled for the time slot you want, you can contact them regarding payment, etc.

Example: I really feel like banging a blonde with green eyes this weekend. Then I check to see the calendar if you are available on say Saturday. If no one made prior reservation, I create one. If someone already did, I pinch in. Once 3 or 4 people fill up, you would let us know via email and we will work out the payment. If the slot does not fill up, you will still let us know to see if we can pinch in at later date.

Congratulations on your new business venture! Ok I need to stop checking TER every 2 mins into my classes.

I am talking more about a pre-arranged visit to a certain city by a group of guys who have paid for me to be there...not something I want to do locally. IOW, there is a group of guys in South Fla. who get lower rates because they are all in some yahoo group. What they do is get together and say "Ok, we want to see this provider come here" and then they present her with an offer of say 4 guys at $400 an our, 6 guys at $350, or 8 guys at $300." The more guys who get in on the timeshare the less it costs, but I am not looking to bang 8 guys in 3 days ha ha, so my limit would be about 2 a day over a 3 day period if I were to entertain this idea.

Again, thanks for the suggestion.

Posted By: prepkid
Try to setup a calendar system in your website in which people can make reservation for specific day and time that you are available. Make the reservation time available to the public, of course anonymously, so that if someone wants to pinch in, he can see if he can make a later time of the same date. He will then be "motivated" to pinch in at the days that have 1 or 2 people already, assuming that he is available on multiple occasions. Once say 3 or 4 people are filled for the time slot you want, you can contact them regarding payment, etc.

Example: I really feel like banging a blonde with green eyes this weekend. Then I check to see the calendar if you are available on say Saturday. If no one made prior reservation, I create one. If someone already did, I pinch in. Once 3 or 4 people fill up, you would let us know via email and we will work out the payment. If the slot does not fill up, you will still let us know to see if we can pinch in at later date.

Congratulations on your new business venture! Ok I need to stop checking TER every 2 mins into my classes.

I love it... You could do it on ur website calendar. With a pending feature that doesnt switch to approved until the # of appts are pre-booked. I know of someone using a calendar program that may work. Pm me if interested...

logistics and timing would be the only drawbacks..getting the guys to pony up the money is the first barrier..setting your schedule to match each guy is next..if i can get only three it will be expensive for each..if i can get ten it will be more cost effective but you will not like fucking that many..are threesomes allowed? you know they will ask that..it s a fantastic idea on paper but to make it work for you and those select few you choose to see is another thing entirely..everything has to be set up timewise even before you get here..just my 2 cents..

and no more than 2 a day period. I agree that them offering up the money and the timing are both major issues, as it always is with touring. Last thing I want to do is create an even more stressful provider realm when my plan is just the opposite...raise rates, see less, tour less. Thanks for the advice Mac!

You have a client list I am sure.  From your reviews, I would guess you have a very good client list.  
So contact your clients, tell them you are taking reservations for some location where you know you will get enough take up to make your trip worthwhile.  Build the cost of trip into your pricing.  Offer some incentives if the take up is unsatisfactory.  

You know, all those things that every day businesses do to attract and retain customers.  The easiest client to sell to is an existing client.  As I mentioned in a post today in another thread, I don't get why providers who ostensibly like me never, never, never act like I exist, and seem to have a mantra to never contact me.

Your idea is somewhat brilliant, in that you are opening your mind to the ideas of marketing that are well proven and tested in EVERY OTHER FUCKING BUSINESS ON THE PLANET, except for the FUCKING BUSINESS.  Oh, sorry for shouting.



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then she is basically touring..not what she wants..there are a lot of variables involved but still a great idea..if it is set up right it will work..setting it all up for her is the problem..

When touring your results are indeterminate.  You may get the volume you are interested in or not.

By taking reservations and setting the agenda, the revenue is known, and you can choose to cancel the trip if it is not profitable.  Getting X guys to get together and agree to a coordinated time and acceptable costs is stupid and highly unlikely.  Unless she wants to do frat boys.

break it down better. I am going to Ohio in a couple weeks and have for sure 5 guys who are seeing me at x amount, but they are not paying upfront. They will see me at different times of course when it meets their schedule...not in the same place at that same time though. If they cancel, I am out of money for the trip. My way, I would be paid upfront a small amount by each guy in the time share to secure only the cost of the trip, then the rest when their appt. time came.

It actually does sound more complicated now that I think about it. I really doubt it would work out because as you said, too many variables to consider. It was just a thought though. They can pay 800 a pop and that's fine with me lmao.

great idea but complicated indeed..you would almost need one person to coordinate everything with you..collect the money..buy the plane ticket..book the hotel room..you still need to screen the guys..set the times up to meet their schedules..it would literally be more trouble than it is worth..but you would always be worth it..

I will NEVER be so bold as to send out a mass mailer or contact them one by one asking them to see me...not going to happen. My idea was more about "them" being the ones to let me know. I post that I may be visiting x city for x amount depending on the number of secured appts. They respond or don't. I know there are many providers who do what you suggested, but I always found that a bit tacky. Unless a guy has specifically asked me to contact him, I am not doing it. Also, I don't keep contacts in my email contact list, so it would have to be via pm which is a pain in the azz.

Well, as I said, marketing is used in every fucking business except the fucking business....  The women that have created goldmines from their practices have client lists.  Think Hollywood Madam, the Mayflower Madam, etc.  How do you think Elliot Spitzer got caught?  Did you know one of the principle investors in San Francisco's sewer system was a local brothel owner (female)?  She made a fortune on the bonds.  She had a huge client list, that had everyone, and I mean everyone on it.

Since prostitution is illegal, broadband advertising is a sure way to jail.  But the idea that you would not contact your clients is what will hold you back and make you a small time player forever.  You have to know your client, and know which ones would be receptive to being contacted of course.  If I were your regular client, and I liked you, and trusted you, I would welcome your invitations.  I am sure there are many like me.  Just as I am sure there are many that are not.  But that is your challenge, and the ability to navigate those waters is what separates hookers from madams.  

Posted By: London Rayne
I will NEVER be so bold as to send out a mass mailer or contact them one by one asking them to see me...not going to happen. My idea was more about "them" being the ones to let me know. I post that I may be visiting x city for x amount depending on the number of secured appts. They respond or don't. I know there are many providers who do what you suggested, but I always found that a bit tacky. Unless a guy has specifically asked me to contact him, I am not doing it. Also, I don't keep contacts in my email contact list, so it would have to be via pm which is a pain in the azz.

and forget about this silly idea of saving guys money lol. Not worth the headache. I am not a madame..been there done that, and still didn't have a client list. Fkin stupid all the way around to keep a log of who you see. In every case, the list is what the cops wanted. If you don't have one, they have nothing to make threats about.

Invest/save what you make now wisely.  Your ASSests are depreciating daily, and you will soon be on a curve where you will be lowering rates to get business.  Unless you leverage, you have to take the money you make now and use it in your future.  Your resume won't get you a civvie job that pays anywhere near your accustomed earning power.   This is why madams become madams, its called leverage.  But if you generate enough wealth to construct some other means of generating revenue, being a madam is not the only pathway for courtesans, hookers, or escorts obviously.  

Posted By: London Rayne
and forget about this silly idea of saving guys money lol. Not worth the headache. I am not a madame..been there done that, and still didn't have a client list. Fkin stupid all the way around to keep a log of who you see. In every case, the list is what the cops wanted. If you don't have one, they have nothing to make threats about.

but as I said in the OP, the reason I am raising my rates is BECAUSE I am opening a new business that will not only be a substantial income but take up most of my time preventing me from being able to work in this business as often as I do now. I have time to see 10-12 guys a month now...soon, it will be more like 4 or 5. Evens out.

You have proposed a very thoughtful concept; I love new ways of thinking of matters.   I wonder if it might work well to try to draw in clients who have seen you before along with advertising for fresh ones.   As someone else said, I am confident you have a loyal client base in the many cities in which you have previously toured.   If you felt it safe to contact them, you could conceivably send them notice of a potential visit, and see whether you could gather the critical number of guys to cover a particular trip.   And once you were either close or had attained the magic number, then advertise it for others, new to you, to either fill in any gaps, or to expand your margin.

It sounds like a clever idea,  and I hope it pans out for you.

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