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ChristineGFE See my TER Reviews 2316 reads
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Hello all,
 
I see a lot of terms that are to me very generic. Would appreciate to know exactly what guys think is the difference between and the different types of hookers/providers/courtesan.  I read one guy saying Elite, then one guy saying low class, then one guy saying crack whore. I have seen thread where guys trying to say elite is just what one girl say she is and yet guy says she is fat cow. So here is your place and time to tell us just how many class of hooker there is and what that class mean to you. Is a girl on BP charge 500 an hour a low class hooker by where she advertise, or a girl on EROS that only charge 250 an hour because of rate?

 
Ladies please allow the men to dig their own holes. We all know that each of us will think of ourselves in best possible light so no need our opinions to measure against all others.

 
Here is an example of my confusion. A girl is a street girl. But she charge 350 an hour, is that low class? A girl is a street girl and charge 125 for 30 minutes, but another is a Kgirl charge 250 an hour incall. Are they both low class or both same or different and why?  

 
1- How many class of hooker/provider/courtesan do you think exist and what you call that/those class  
2- Just what is the difference between low class hooker and each the other class, maybe ask it correctly what are the difference between each of the class of hooker/provider?

 
To me I don't care what one hooker/provider/courtesan call herself, what I am looking for is what guys think is the difference. Is it price, looks, her in call, types of service, does she offer squeeze cheese as snack or just nothing? I hope you understand my question.

 
Christine

Analias34 reads

“I don't know much about art, but I know what I like.”
―Gelett Burgess

“I don't know much about classifying providers, but I know what I like.”
―Analias

"working girls."  I rarely use the word, hooker, except on this board.  I think I've used it once on the Kgirl board.  As far as "classes"  I don't group them by price, only by the way they do business.  One class is streetwalkers.  I include girls working bars and casinos in this group.  I don't see girls in this group, ever.  The next class is agency girls.  Self-explanatory, they work for an agency, but I include in this group independent girls that use a booker or phone operator.  This is the group I see the most.  The third class is independent girls that do their own booking and screening.  I see a fair amount of these each year, but not as many as independent girls with bookers.  

 
Your second question is hard to pigeonhole.  There are high class and low class providers in each of the three classes.  I've seen DDG model-types working Vegas clubs and casinos, which fall into my "streetwalker" group because of how they get their customers.  In this same group can be drug users and diseased girls living on the streets.  Likewise, the other two groups have both high and low class providers.  One of the classiest and sophisticated women I have seen was a $400/hr LA independent.   OTOH, I had a $1000/hr provider that was crass and rude, but pricing herself on looks alone.   So for me, high or low class is not about price, because there is high and low class women at all price points.  I guess my way would be termed "classifications" and not class as in sophistication level.  Courtesan, is just a marketing tool.  Its pretentious, so I have never seen a girl who advertised herself as a courtesan.  

the following three: Client, Hobbyist and Slobbyist.  Those are the terms I've seen being thrown about on various sites.  

What distinguishes one from the other?  One lady's client may be another lady's slobbyist.  

"Slobbyist" when they are talking about you. LOL

-- Modified on 9/25/2017 12:11:21 PM

What the various classes are and what defines each. At the same time, are there varying classes of guys who visit the varying classes of ladies? In no particular order...

Street Walker

Backpage pro

Hooker

Escort

Courtesan  

Provider

Working Girl

Call Girl

Prostitute

Sugar baby?? (Sugar mom or cougar? Come in all ages now)

Stripper who offers extras...

What am I forgetting?

For the guys....

Client

John

Man slut

Fuck boy??? Lol

Depraved sob

Customer

IDK...

At the end of the day and at its most basic level we are trying to accomplish the same thing...perhaps with slightly different tastes, standards, preferences, and socio economic statuses????

For the record, i prefer to use the term Provider, escort or "friend of sorts" lol.

Have a good day!!!!

-- Modified on 9/23/2017 7:24:09 AM

1. Repeat                                                                                              

2. No repeat.

especially if all you have to go on is an ad.

 
I don't think the forum is much of a deciding factor as I know a lot of gals that I consider high class who use the "low class" BP forum.

 
So, what makes a good first impression?   I like to see a bit of wit, and playfulness.   Good spelling and grammar don't hurt either.   Crassness and ignorance push the score down.  A really nice photo helps send it up.

 
Of course, for some guys, low class could be a turn on.   We guys can be pretty depraved, in case you haven't noticed.  8o)

souls_harbor32 reads

These three things interplay, looks, class, and marketing.

We aren't all born with great looks.  That's going to be a factor in our success in certain pursuits (modeling, acting, escorting.)  

There are two forms of class -- birthright and behavior.  Birthright is a faded concept in most of the US, but probably still has remnants on the east and west coasts.  Class as a form of behavior has a lot to do with the behaviors you acquired growing up -- but behaviors can be changed.   I think "lower class" behavior is a tell that you aren't self-aware.  You aren't really aware that some of your mannerisms are turning people off.   When we say someone has "classy" behavior it means we think they handled something with dignity, charm, diplomacy etc.

Marketing is about getting the word out, crafting the message, setting the business plan.   You know that some escorts who charge $250 an hour make more income than some who charge $400/hour.  Their business plan is targeting a certain income level and are willing to work the hours to achieve it.  Others might choose a lower income level in exchange for less hours worked.

I think people like street walkers mostly have poor marketing skills.  And among them those with low IQ  and drug addicts -- probably all being pimped.  

a hooker is more likely to be found on BP or some other non-GFE escort mall site. Usually offers a 1/2 hour rate or even a QV rate. The exception is some less populated areas don't offer much else.

A provider is a GFE lady who offers a more "up-scale" experience. She might be barely legal and lesser experienced in P4P but her mindset is "open minded" and willing to please.

A courtesan is a provider (see 1st sentence above) who has the experience and where-with-all to offer a much more deluxe experience. A courtesan is usually in her 30's+ but sometimes can be upper 20's if she has the worldly experience and a wealth of knowledge to offer a mind-blowing (no pun intended) experience.    

I know I tend to offend the uber-sensitive types around here, but I used most of the words rather interchangeably, which I suppose offends the sensibilities of the rather PC types around here who try to sugar-coat the language they use to make themselves feel better about what they do.

 
A hooker is a hooker, a john is a john. One gets paid for sex the other does the paying. Trying to suggest that there is a hierarchy in the hooker/john world of prostitution is kind of dumb IMHO, except of course when comparing a street walking crack ho with a woman who works out of 5 star hotels at a grand plus per hour. They are still both hookers of course, but they live very different lives and I am sure have very different outlooks on what they do for a living.  

 
That said, most of us live somewhere in the middle. Is a john who spends $600 hr a "classier" guy than some other guy who's budget is $300 hr? Not IMO. Conversely, is  hooker who charges a grand an hour any more "high class" than a $500 hooker? Once again, not IMO.

 
As for being "successful" who is more "successful" the K-Girl who charges $250 hr and has to split her fee with her booker et al, or the independent girl who charges $400 hr and gets to keep it all? On the surface this is a very easy question as the knee jerk reaction would be the indie of course, right? Well I have known a lot of indies and a lot of K-Girls in my life and while I have known a LOT of $400 hr hookers who were constantly broke, I mean we've all seen some of them coming right here on the boards to panhandle when times were tough, but I have NEVER seen a broke K-Girl. So let's ask the question again, which of the two are more successful? Not as easy a question as you would think is it?

 
I do have to admit, some of you guys just crack me up and really need to get off of your high fucking horses. You are tricks, johns, whore mongers or whatever sanitized term you want to give for a man who fucks hookers yet you feel qualified to look down on one group of hookers over another because of "how" she procures her customers, or the rate she charges.  Please get the fuck over yourselves.

All,

 
The items that define a class I think are very complicated, different for many men. When I first come to the US, I was under impression that TER and BP was the universal means advertising. Quickly I find out that both are not always the main route in many places. In some places the representation of providers is a different method on a more popular local board or method. I think that men and women tend look down on some that advertise one board or the other. I do not fool myself into think that one board or the other do not both have common faults. But I do believe that each must have their own positive points, for both provider and client.

 
The class of girl that work the street is difficult for me to understand as here is very different. In Asia girls do not really "work the street", yet they may be on the street. In Asia most men actually don't have personal car. Usually always Taxi, cab, Uber or GrabTaxi. The number of people actually own a car is very small percentage of population compared to US. The all concept of walking street and get picked up in car is most uncommon. The girls that work the street usually are either bar girls that stand outside urging men to come into the bar they work, or girls in big tourist areas walking to meet and chat tourist guys that are also walking. In Thailand city of Pattay, in fact there is  portion of the city that is famous called " Walking Street". Has a big Arch of metal that says " Welcome to Walking Street" as you enter. Here are all kinds of girls that walk the street. Not all but most are bar girls. yet the independents that walk the street, charging the same as the girls in the bar. Difference is independents just walk that street do not pay the bar a portion or fee. Does this make them low class because they are on the street to find customer, or better class of bar girl, or simply same class?

 
I live and work in both Las Vegas and Phoenix. Yet in Las Vegas I can walk down strip late night and there are always girls walking street. Sometimes these girls are far beautiful than me, very sexy. Dressed in clothes and jewelry that cost more than I would ever spend without feeling guilty. If these girls are independent, are these street girls? If a street girl is a girl that walk the streets then is she same class as the girl in Thailand that walk the street?

 
In Hong Kong, Manila and Soul is also often different. There is a whole different method of what a girl will face. I have several friends that were/are models in Manila. Pictures in magazines and publications. Yet they use those those some of those pictures to advertise on one  of largest escort sites in Manila. Even say right in advertisement that she is former model for xxxxxx magazine. I dont think allowed for me to name the magazine. But it is a sexy fashion magazine and not a sex or nude magazine. So if the girl is a published model, and she work an agency that has its own public website, and the agency will often advertise on BP also, is that a low class provider? Then what about all the other providers that work the same agency that were never models, do they get place in same class as the model that is advertise right beside them?

 
Finally I think about volume. Again here maybe a little different. But where I come from we have what a client told me is called weekend warrior. These are very cute sexy even girls that live far from the big city. They usually students or young mothers, many simply poor young wives. They come to the big city like Soul, HK and Manila for two three days. Maybe see 4-7 clients in a day. Crazy I think but their choice. Then when they make what they need budget, they go back home. Often they dont return for a month maybe two. They dont work street, they dont work bar, they dont use BP. They use method that the UK clients called "pipelining" excuse spelling. They have profile on dating websites. Again I dont think I can say names here but they are well known asian dating websites. They simply chat guys when in home, then make appointments to meet when they go to the big city. Not a street girl, not a bar girl, totally independent but I guess you call high volume. Are they a low class provider based fact of volume?

 
For sure in all places are true low volume independent providers. Does that make  any better class than bar girl who is lucky to get one client every two day? And for sure there are providers that are independent, beautiful and sexy, but have pimp or have drug problems. Does fact they are independent make them better than a bar girl?

 
Here on this board I see the "trolling" and drama. That for sure often just people bored nothing better to do and try to make life interesting. But in those posts gets confusing. I see girls and guys say anything at uncovered makes provider a nasty low class provider. I see girls and guys say even covered sex makes provider a "low class hooker". I see guys saying fat/chubby/curvy girls are just nasty "low class hooker". And to honest just dont understand. Trying to figure out what is what is difficult. I have several cousins that are "bar girls". One is i call cubby and in her 30 plus. I think many guys would call her fat. Yet she never has issue find a customer. All size and age provider I think has for sure  clients that like her size and age.  

 
So that is why I ask a complicated question. And of course it will need a complicate thoughts to define and answer. And of course it will be I expect very different from man to man. Also I thought it would be fun to ask really complicated question for the board. If this has been asked before excuse that ask again by accident please.

Elite, high class, low class, crack whore, etc are too subjective to even begin to define. You will get a barrage of comments that may leave you more confused than before you asked.  

I will say this: for me it's more about the way a lady carries herself, her attitude, and willingness to make the session go well that defines her. Not about where she advertises, and how expensive or how cheap the service costs.

Compared to most jobs, providers get paid a lot of money per hour and can operate with fairly low costs. All other things being equal, I rank providers by the location they provide, from lowest to highest:

1. No location. A streetwalker who needs to take you into a dark alley to provide her service is the bottom rung of this business. She can't charge much unless she is willing to offer some very unsafe services.

2. Car dates. There is a local provider in my city who only does car dates. You have to pick her up in your vehicle, and then drive to a secluded spot nearby to get service, like maybe in a vacant parking lot. She can't afford transportation to do outcall or offer any place of her own as an incall.

3. Cheap motel incall. A provider can offer incall service by renting a cheap motel room. It's sleazy, but at least indicates she can do enough business to afford a cheap room and still save some money.

4. Outcall only. This provider may not be willing to pay for a hotel room, but at least she has reliable transportation to get to outcall locations.

5. Incall only. This provider may not have reliable transportation, but at least she has her own place, or at least some reasonable expectation of privacy.

6. Incall/Outcall. Same as the two items above, with the flexibility to do either.

7. Nice hotel incall. This provider is clearly a step up from one who works in a cheap motel room. Touring providers often work from a nice hotel room, and they are clearly doing well because they are covering the room and the cost of travel.

8. Incall apartment/condo. This provider is successful enough to afford her own incall location, separate from wherever she lives.

Yes, there are all kinds of exceptions to my ranking, especially in the middle rankings. All other things being equal, a good provider should be able to make enough money to work from a decent location.

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