That your 'punk' running back,Emmitt Smith,was BETTER than Sweetness.
This is SPORTS guys. I know that we ALL have our opinions/favorites of who/team is best.
Anyone who had the opportunity to see BOTH Payton AND Smith; how can you possibly call Emmitt better??
As Gambler has said in the past, Walter achieved his(bulk)yardage behind a sub-par line. His stiff-arm and stutter-step were simply world class talent.
So tear down your fricken stadium and SPARE me your repetitive bullshit reminder of how Emmitt(IYO)was so much better than WALTER PAYTON simply because he gained more 'yardage'.
argument except for the most blindly biased Big D fan. Walter Payton had one crappy supporting cast and Emmitt had a damn good O line. Certainly Emmitt was terrific, and I'd put him in the top ten, but WP is one of the top 2 or 3. I personally have to go with Jim Brown as the best of all time. Yardage is a decent yardstick, but hardly the ultimate factor, IMHO. Payton made his own holes sometimes, ran with speed, shiftiness and power and looked to deliver blows when about to be tackled. I doubt if defensive players looked forward to bringing him down, especially one on one. Emmitt was a damn good one, but versus Walter, it's WP hands down.
definitely top ten in my book. Better than Sweetness???!!! Only to a diehard Cowboys fan, or someone smoking crack. lmao
The debate between Walter Payton and Jim Brown is a valid one, but I still have to give the edge to Sweetness, if for no other reason than he was a superior human being. lol
I never saw Jim Brown play but I saw a lot of Walter Payton and he was amazing. One of my favorite players all-time.
But don't leave Barry Sanders out of this conversation about the best ever. Talk about having no help from his teammates, Barry did it all on those hapless Lions' teams.
I've said it once and I'll say it again, even though he's now a convicted felon, O.J. was as good as anyone I ever saw. They all had different styles but there are just a few that I loved watching and they include Jim Brown, Sanders, Dorsett, Earl Campbell, Bo Jackson and I loved nothing better than watching Walter do that stutter step, lower his shoulder and deliver the hit on the would be tackler!
Payton was good but he wasn't even the best Bears running back ever. That honor goes to Gale Sayers, the best I ever saw.
had to be changed to compete with his superlative athletic skills of power, strength, speed, balance and grace. I saw highlight reels of Gale Sayers and he was exciting, but Jim Brown was the greatest. He actually changed the game, and their is no greater testimony of respect for player than having a teams changing defensive coordinators and schemes to prepare for you, and you only.
IN my book Jim Brown is the greatest, and everyone else is playing for second best.
Dear BreakerMorant:
Would you say that Jim Brown was the best because how defenses were gear to stop him but due to the fact that he was bigger than everyone but the defensive lineman that he had an inherent physical advantage over everyone that he played against? Also for a long time that really was a one dimensional team, although Leroy Kelly was a formidable player and later on he won an NFL championship with Jim Wooten as one of his offensive lineman. This really would have been one of the true dynamic running teams in the league if Bobby Mitchell doesn't go to Washington as their first Black player. Keep in mind Mitchell was the fastest in his state when he used to run against Michael Johnson's former coach in high school and was the African American state champion in the 100 yards during the time of segregation. This is important because people will tell you that in Cleveland third down wasn't necessarily a passing down. Which means you know that Brown was going to get the ball. Also in 1963 he led the league in rushing with 1863 yards in twelve games and never missed a game in nine years due to injury. Although Ollie Matson,John Henry Johnson and Tim Brown where solid and formidable backs along with Jumpin Jon Arnett, Brown was certainly the class of the field and one of the more outspoken athletes off the field.
specifically, Mr. Jim Brown. Thank you for enlightening me on the older NFL players. That is good stuff. Opposing defenses must have had 10 men in the box, to try and stop Jim Brown on third down.
PLayers such as Brown, Ollie Matson, John Henry JOhnson, Kelly, Michell et al played tough and hard at a great sacrifice for little money. It's always nice to hear stories of the men who made football popular. Thank you.
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Dear BreakerMorant:
Also keep in mind that the NFL was primarily a running league. Henceforth the emphasis on line play was vital to the success of the running game. Keep in mind those old tapes of Lombardi teaching how to get a seal here and a seal there and then going up the gut. Although Paul Brown was an extremely well prepared coach there was reiteration there in that department as well. It also rubbed off on his players as Chuck Noll later went on to win 4 Super Bowls with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Also several offensive linemen such as Mike Webster received hall of fame honors for their careers as well.
to be a big deal. At least that is what my "TOPPS" football cards said. I think somewhere around here I have my Floyd Little card. You and I seem to look at football very similarily.
Tell me, do you think this new passing game stuff in the NFL is rather sissy? I'll take your answer off the air.
Lost a G this week, so maybe I can use some tips-lol-Walter Payton was a terrific person-and I don't think NOW will be giving Jim Brown any awards any time soon given his history with women-I've never forgiven Deet-ka for not letting Walter score in the 85 Super Bowl-WP was a target and got beat up for years on a second rate team before it all came together-He certainly deserved that score rather than the Fridge-It was a mistake Ditka regretted, I believe-Last year I went to Jackson State to watch a buddy's son play a tennis match-Walter Payton had contributed all the money to build the tennis complex for the college-He was taken way too soon-Enjoy your posts-Later, 1rob
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was great and more importantly he played tough. I love Emmitt because he was a one of the best complete football players of all time. Emmitt was a great blocker, a receiver and teammate.
Did he have the best running skills of all running backs in comparsion with Walter Payton, Barry Sanders, and the greatest Jim Brown? NO! Emmitt though, was a great north - south runner, who kept the chains moving, and his team in control of the clock. Controlling the clock means the defensive has time to rest and it's not flashy. IT is a formula however, that resulted in winning games, big games.
How many Super Bowls did Payton, Sanders, Tomilison et al won?
One.
Seems as tho there was another running back at Dallas, wore number 22 first. Bullet Bob Hayes, known as the worlds fastest human. Seems he was a pretty good running back too. And he won a couple of Super Bowl rings for a pretty fine Coach named Landry!
Hayes played wide receiver and ran back kicks as well. The only time he ran the ball was if they did a reverse of some sort.
small side but one helluva hitter. Yea, I seem to remember Landry as a fine coach.
Dear BreakerMorant:
For the record it was one. However, I have just got to ask you because he certainly ahead of his time with his speed would you say that Tony Dorsett ranks a close second. Back in the days when 1,000 yards was 1,000 yards he certainly was the most consistent running back for his time. Not to mention that no one really had as many big runs of over 40 yards or more during that time. I am sure that you remember that 99 yard run against the Minnesota Vikings. I don't know how old you would be but he was to the NFL to what Gale Sayers and Travis Williams was in the late 60's and early 70's. Remember what Gale told you in 1965. All I need is 18 inches of daylight that really was Tony Dorsett. However Dorsett said if you move them I will groove them. Keep in mind Tony was running 4.3 in the 40 long before it was commonplace to do so. That is why the chasm was so wide between him and the defenders. That is why it was a monumental thing when Darell Green caught him from behind in his rookie season. No one ever did that. That is why I still hold Dorsett in high regard.
As a Giants fan, I couldn't BEGIN to tell you how happy I was to see Texas Stadium crumble into the dust!
Hear the hole in the roof is still there.
Thank you
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