A soldier does NOT become a war hero by being captured by the enemy. He might become one through what he did before or after that, but the act of being captured itself doesn't qualify because he did NOT choose to be captured. Valor and heroism is voluntary. It is a decision, a choice. Capture is not!
I doubt McCain's first wife considers him a "Hero". While McCain was in Vietnam, she was involved in an accident that severly disfigured her legs. McCain returned from Vietnam and found the former swim suit model wife he had left behind was no more. She had gained weight and was severly crippled. So he ditched her for a very wealthy and beautiful heiress, who not only became his lover but financed his political campaigns. War hero eh? I think not! His first wife, was the real hero! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed3F9TDEjcg-- Modified on 7/24/2015 9:53:47 AM
Why are McCain's war records sealed as a matter of national security? Some Veitnam veterans allege McCain while a war prisioner wouldn't stop talking to his captors. The attached video reveals much about this snake and John Kerry too.
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After family influence got McCain into Annapolis he proved a less than stellar student; graduating the Naval Academy at near bottom of his class. I also recall reading where his flying record was less than "heroic". I think it was McCain's forgetting to enable a defensive warning system on his plane that got him 'shot-down' and IN the POW camp.
IMO McCain is a war-hawk mediocrity who got where he is by 'family legacy' and marrying his second wife's money. Serendipity happens; but it doesn't equate to heroics.Who is saying McCain was a war hero simply because he was captured?
WHO????????????????????????...Last week, I posted that I agreed with Trump that McCain was no hero:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=249221&boardID=39&page=#249221 ed2000 "strongly disagreed" with my contention that McCain was not a hero. To me, that means he said McCain WAS a hero. Now, you and the lurker can go ahead and parse what he said. Be my guest: http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=249275&boardID=39&page=#249275Yes, Ed was saying McCain was a hero, NOT simply because he was captured but because he stayed when he was offered his release.
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The MSM has no way to access his military records. McCain has made sure ALL his military records that cover his time in Vietnam and all the disciplinary actions against him are censored and sealed as a matter of National security. Fortunately we have some information from other U.S. prisioners who were at the Hilton Hanoi who nicknamed him the songbird.
Is McCain a hero or not? You have now taken both sides of the issue. LOL
...and then in the post, he apologized AGAIN. "Sorry" twice in one post?! I've never seen GaG so considerate of anyone on the boards. Would he treat a lefty the same way? I don't think so:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?BoardID=39&SortBy=DateCreated%20desc&Search=poll&SearchType=3&Author=GaGambler&DayFrom=3000&DayTo=0&MessageID=160798&frmSearch=1#160798-- Modified on 7/25/2015 12:38:16 AM
Take me totally out of context. I specifically said, in that thread, that capture does NOT constitute the makings of hero.
Quoting myself: "I'm not aware of anything about his capture or even being shot down that indicates McCainwas a war hero so that statement is true. What was heroic was the comportment he displayed
as he endured and survived the torture experienced as a POW. " http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=249190&boardID=39&page=#249190 You even responded directly to this post so you can't deny you saw it. I'll accept your apology anytime.
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...so I couldn't have taken you "totally out of context." BLOTY much?
One possibility is you're too stupid to follow sequential posts in a thread but the obvious answer is you're to dishonest to admit you're wrong.
I HAVE retired from you except when you lie about things I've posted. I understand how disappointing it must be for you, that I make it impossible for you to openly post your lies. Amazing how pathological you are given the entire thread is there for everyone to read. I guess you could still ask admin to pull it down. BTW, BLOTY is a noun not a verb.I don't understand this deification of soldiers that exists in the US, especially of those that are now in a far more important position - surely a far more important metric to judge John McCain on is his abilities currently and in the near future as a politician? I can't help but think that the overwhelming majority of people seem to be arguing over a point that is largely irrelevant; either he can serve the country well now as a politician, or he can't. What label you put on his career in the military has no bearing on that.
..............a Navy Admiral. He thought it was much easier staying and dealing with his Vietnamese captors than facing his father after his confessions. Besides why leave the Hanoi Hilton when many of his fellow prison inmates say he was treated like a crown prince and screeching like a songbird. Even McCain acknowledges this fact in his book Faith of my Father.
Thank you for reinforcing the exact point I was making.
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Lets see all the examples you can supply of calling out your lefty brethren.
There are plenty of morons on this board, Nuguy, FatVern, Hadji, and fatgirl are just a few that come to mind. I see you calling out Nuguy and FatVern all the time, so far I've only seen you call out Hadji once, and I can't remember you ever calling out fatgirl or SenorGrumpy. I can't say for certain that you have NEVER called them out, but for you to call me out for not calling out Jack harshly enough is laughable given your own record of never calling out lefties.