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Freddie Gray/Laquan McDonald Effect?
digdirkler 85 Reviews 2157 reads
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There has been dispute whether the 20% increase in national homicide rates since the Ferguson Riots is due to BLM, the 'Ferguson Effect'.  Here are data on the two worst cities, Chicago and Baltimore.  They had distinct  drops in police actions (stops, arrests, shootings) that track with spikes in Black on Black homicide and violent crime in those cities.  Those changes date to BLM associated activity.  

In Chicago video of Laquan McDonald, the Obama DOJ investigation of CPD, an ACLU agreement on stops, and new state law on stops all coincided in Dec 2015.  In Jan  2016 police stops plummeted to 1/6 their former level, and  there followed 58% more homicides and 43% more non-fatal shootings in 2016.  In Baltimore, the Freddie Gray riots and charging of 6 police officers in April 2015 are followed by an immediate change in policing.  Sharp drop in arrests, stops, complaints against police, and police shootings.  Homicide is 132% of pre riot averages.  In 2011, 197 were murdered in Baltimore.  In 2016, 344, a 74% jump.

In Baltimore over 90 percent of the murderers and murder victims are black.  Effective policing will disproportionately affect blacks, and bad policing will, too. Because Black on Black crime is by far the greater threat, a policy that focusses on police problems kills far more blacks than it saves.

http://www.copinthehood.com/2017/09/the-freddie-gray-effect-in-baltimore.html
http://urbanlabs.uchicago.edu/projects/gun-violence-in-chicago-2016

bigguy3047 reads

Since dumb ass racist Trump and his supporters are insecure and lost.

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the latest 2016 stats are: Black on Black % of total black homicide = 89.3%  white on white % total = 81.3%
So, blacks kill 8% more of their total versus whites for theirs.  That is significant.  But the important stat is the Black Total is much higher, so black on black homicides are MUCH higher than all others.

The total for black on black homicide is almost exactly the same as that for white on white, though there are 5 times as many whites.  B-B= 2,380 vs W-W = 2,574 deaths.  Blacks, with their small population size, should have only 500 black on black homicides if their rate was the same as white's.  

Black on Black crime is talked about more, and the term was coined, because blacks victimize each other at VERY high rates compared to all other groups (as well as victimizing other groups are higher rates too).

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers

It's obvious that you really don't get out much. The news in Maryland is stuffed with the first 15 minutes being all about crime within  that disgusting shit hole city.

Maybe if you want racism...you should tune in to the next Al Green speech.......I says.....that no blacks.....should go to........the White House.......because.........I says so.......and I'm........gonna concoct......a bill......in the House........to impeach.......The Donald.

How much of a racist is Al?

Posted By: bigguy30
Re: Matt you can't take this clown or thread seriously.
Since dumb ass racist Trump and his supporters are insecure and lost.

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If it is a fact, which OP demonstrates it is... that the BLM theory that, roughly, "police are the problem" and roughly, "less aggressive policing is the answer" results in many more black people dead, what is wrong with noting that?

Is it better to continue with policies that sound good and flatter the pride of some people, despite being founded on bad data and resulting in massive unintended consequences?  Good intentions and feel good chants don't save lives, and can end up taking them.

It is possible for policing to have problems, and some individual blacks, brown, whites and yellows to be wrongly killed by police, AND for the BLM / Obama approach to be wrong.

Good try dumbass

Micah Xavier Johnson....black male......killed 5 Police Officers in Dallas (claimed he wanted to kill WHITE police officers)  
Gavin Eugene Long.....black male.....killed 3 police officers in Baton Rouge, Nation of Islam member (hate group)
Lakeem Keon Scott......killed 1 and wounded 3 including a police officer in Tennessee......BLM supporter

All 3 shooters are black...and supporters or members of hate groups.

At least 3 of your examples were not hate crimes.

Posted By: bigguy30
Re: He really does not get it with each response.
Some of the worst crimes in this country, were done by white men!

Cottonmouth35 reads

practicing the constitutional rights in America.  

Well, actually they just love murdering Americans period .  

 
Maybe a pic of the Black Sudanese immigrant MUSLIM who shot up the church full of whites in Tennessee the other day could have fit in your collage too.  How come that isn't all over the news .

Come on, math is hard as Teen Talk Barbie said, but this is stupid.
Black on Black homicide rates (numbers per capita) and totals and % of total are statistics, aggregating thousands of deaths.  
If the claim is "Blacks are the Only Ones Who Commit Violent Crime" pictures of 6 white murderers would refute the claim.  Nobody made that claim.  
If the claim is "Blacks Commit Violent Crime at a Far Higher Rate than Other Groups, and the Primary Victims are Other Blacks" showing there are 6 white murderers is retarded.  To refute that statistical claim, you would need to show that blacks, a group 1/5 as numerous, had only 1 such murderer, ever, and therefore were merely equally as dangerous as whites.    
Result?  FAIL
PS- the majority of serial killers are black

HappyChanges45 reads

"Is it better to continue with policies that sound good and flatter the pride of some people, despite being founded on bad data and resulting in massive unintended consequences?  Good intentions and feel good chants don't save lives, and can end up taking them."
 
Couldn't agree more.

bigguy3049 reads

The fact you even believe this garbage.
Just proves my earlier point.
It's not about feel good chants and hoping that saves lives.
I will let the video link try and explain it to you.

HappyChanges45 reads

right. They whole thing is fucked up. Nowadays, especially in poor communities like inner Baltimore and Chicago, police are viewed as the bad guys. And it's simply not true. Most cops are down to earth and just want to do their job and go home (white cops, black cops, and everyone in between). The MSM and liberals jump all over the bad cops and paint the picture that all cops are bad and racist while masking the real problem.  

The real problem is family structure in inner Baltimore and Chicago. Nobody gets married there and raises there children together. Free stuff promised by the democrats that stifles work ethic and personal responsibility isn't helping the problem either.

bigguy3054 reads

Happy is still trying to point to black marriage issues.
We are on a fuck site and divorce is a problem across this country.
So it's not just a problem with black people.
I see past this bs comment with you.

Also some of the worst crimes are committed by white people, but like Trump.
They have a need to point the finger and use racial stereotypes, due to their own insecurities.

The problems in America goes beyond race.
If you race baiters want to keep acting like hypocrites.
Then you will be exposed.

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Each of your responses is premised on the idea that it CANNOT be true that blacks have a problem MUCH WORSE, if it is true that whites also have that problem to some degree. This Is Stupid.
Blacks have a 600% higher homicide rate?  Big says Not True, there are some white murderers!
Blacks have a 75% out of wedlock birth rate?  Not a Problem, whites have a 25% rate!

HMMM, lets try this stupid refutation approach in other contexts
Blacks get shot by Police Too Much!  Not True, most police shooting are of whites!
Blacks are disproportionately poor!  Not True, there are some poor whites!
Blacks get sent to prison too much! Not True, there are some whites in prison!
Blacks were Lynched! Not True, some lynchings were of whites!
Blacks were Slaves! Not True, there were a few white slaves, a few black slave owner, and the Barbary Pirates took hundreds of thousands of white slaves for muslim markets in the same period!

Now do you see how stupid your "thought" process is?

YES...we are on a FUCK site. what actual contribution to it have you made. Care to share you expertise with a provider or even a review?

Posted By: bigguy30
Re: The hypocisy with Trump's cult and the white nationalist mindset.
Happy is still trying to point to black marriage issues.  
 We are on a fuck site and divorce is a problem across this country.  
 So it's not just a problem with black people.  
 I see past this bs comment with you.  
   
 Also some of the worst crimes are committed by white people, but like Trump.  
 They have a need to point the finger and use racial stereotypes, due to their own insecurities.  
   
 The problems in America goes beyond race.  
 If you race baiters want to keep acting like hypocrites.  
 Then you will be exposed.

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bigguy3020 reads

So this is your response?

Also you are trying to change the subject as usual.
It's just another sign of your desperation.

Well unlike you, I have no problem with providers.  
I don't have to prove anything, to insecure clowns like yourself either. Lol

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No one is changing any subject. Obviously "Reading Comprehension" was not your strong suit in school. You said yourself it is a fuck site....correct, a fuck site, and you don't contribute to that part of it.  

As for a sign of desperation...check all the threads you start and find NO response...but yet you continue starting threads.....talk about "Swinging and Missing".

Posted By: bigguy30
Re: You continue swinging and missing with each response.
So this is your response?  
   
 Also you are trying to change the subject as usual.  
 It's just another sign of your desperation.  
   
 Well unlike you, I have no problem with providers.  
 I don't have to prove anything, to insecure clowns like yourself either. Lol

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bigguy3023 reads

You have nothing and come on here trying to sound smart.
Also you are changing the subject dumbass. Lol
It's funny how you don't know anything, but trying to call me out.

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"better to keep your mouth shut have them think you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

Actually you do "Give a Fuck". You continue responding and make yourself look even more foolish, especially when you finish each sentence with that childish LOL.  

Keep responding, in the wake of the Las Vegas incident we all need someone or something to laugh at, and you definitely fit the bill.

Posted By: bigguy30
Re: Well you keep responding and making a fool out of yourself.

Reading your posts pretty much makes anyone sound smart.

Based on your responses they also are more mature.

Posted By: bigguy30
Re: Well you keep responding and making a fool out of yourself.
You have nothing and come on here trying to sound smart.  
 Also you are changing the subject dumbass. Lol  
 It's funny how you don't know anything, but trying to call me out.

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