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Independents, you may have to swallow some very bad...
mattradd 40 Reviews 5676 reads
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tasting medicine to get the cure you're seeking.

Another way to frame it; is there really any separation between fiscal conservatism and social conservatism in the Republican party? As much as the Republicans will try to get a fiscal conservative candidate on the ballot, they will be sweating profusely knowing that their social conservative slip is still showing, and hoping all their fear inducing rhetoric will distract voters, particularly Independents, from noticing. Good luck with that!

Which is new for conservatives.  The problem for people like Bachmann and Palin is that, while the conservatives quote Jefferson and the Founding Fathers, everything Bachmann has said about them and our Constitutional history betrays complete ignorance of both the Founding Fathers and the Constitution.  Even while she urges school kids to study them, she makes it  clear she never did.

Snowman39935 reads

To beat a man who swore he would clsoe Gitmo...

NOT

Swore he would never invade a country without good cause...

NOT

Said we needed to get out fiscal hosue in order

NOT

Will it be touch for ANYONE to beat BHO????

NOT

digem-all1161 reads

While Obama has disappointed me on several fronts, He stands heads and shoulders above the current crop of Republican candidates being discussed.  The main problem, the cow-towing the tea-baggers. Mainstream America wants nothing to do with theses fruitcakes. Additionally, the current crop of Republican governors is doing a great job showing how extreme the the current make up of the party actually is.  They are blinded by their own ideology and are clearly trying to balance budgets on the backs of the eroding middle class.  

On top of that, the Obama has a great deal of success to build upon:

1. Health-care reform
2. Saved the US Auto industry
3. Recovery Act kept unemployment from being actually worse than it could have been and bailed out a large number of states.
4. While he inherited the TARP...those dollars are being paid back.
5. Ended large scale military operations in Iraq. (Now we need to get out of Afghanistan)
6. Banking reforms...although we stiall have a way to go.
7.  Middle class tax cuts

The Neo-Cons in the republican party left a huge mess...they have clearly demonstrated that they cant govern what they hate. Why would we want to go back to that.

And here's another thing.  The Republican candidates have such hard-ons to get Tea Bagger support they are all moving to the right and pushing the swing vote to Democrats.  It's already happened in several mid-term Congressional races.  Of course, the current crop of right-wing Governors in the mid-west won despite that.  But now that voters are seeing what they voted for, I predict they'll desert Republican candidates en masse next year.  I know, it's just a theory.  We'll see.

Snowman39939 reads

First off you talk about the Tea Party (only using your junior high mentality play on words). If they are such kooks, maybe you can explain why they KICKED THE DEMS ASSES in the last election!!

Getting rid of Health Care reform was their #1 platform, AND THEY WON ON IT!!!

Between that and his huge deficits, guess what, you're SCREWED!!!

Think about you list.

1) Health Care - HAted my a majority of americans as proven in the last elections
2) Saved the auto industry - Economic package costs trillions, unemployment rate STILL AROUND 10%
3) Recovery Act - That's crap. Unemployemt at 10%, where the hell is teh recovery. All most people have seen is the debt!!
4) TARP - not an issue for or against.
5) Ending operations in Iraq - Yeah, only to get us into other wars where we have no strategy and even weaker coalitions
6) Banking Reform - sleeper issue. No one will care and no one is seeeing any real difference
7) Middle Class Tax Cuts. - Loser issue for Dems, EVERYBODY KNOW ITS THE REPUBLICANS WHO CUT TAXES!! THAT ONE YOU CAN ARGUE UNTIL YOU ARE BLUE IN THE FACE WITH THE VOTERS, YOU WILL FAIL.


IF you want to have a prayer, turn off Bill Maher, stop listening to DNC talking points and start listening to the voters.

IF I am wrong, explain to me the HISTORICAL ASS WHIPPING you just took in the last election.

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Priapus531728 reads

GOP got "HISTORICAL ASS WHIPPINGS" in '06 & '08.
Dems got one last year. Various factors for these elections include displeasure for Iraq War & the lousy economy.

Riddle me this : if GOP so confident in winning POTUS, how come so many potential candidates standing on the sidelines ?

Public turning on "Tea Party radicals", particularly several GOP governors ( IE Walker, etc ) whose poll numbers are plunging.

In turbulent times, electoral pendulum has wild swings; next time good bet it will swing back to the Dems.

Now take a valium & calm down-----:)

Snowman391398 reads

Remember, I am the capitalist who has the money, cars and cool stuff..

I'm not the one whining about what I don't have :-)

Republicans got their asses whipped in those years, totally agree. And they deserved it...

WHY??

The forgot to be conservative and spent money like crazy.

The message has been sent, we will see how '12 turns out.

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Snowman391210 reads

Oh, poor Priaap...

You claim others do not post valid arguments, and yet you can not discredit them....

Oh, Poor Priapap....

So mad at the world, unable to achieve so he must lash out at others...

Oh, Poor Priap.....

Still thinking he is making a difference, when he can't even better his own life...

Oh, Poor Priap....

Boy of little credibility, Boy of low self-esteem, Boy of shatted dreams and wanna be  

Oh, Poor Priap...    

snowball392140 reads

You really suck at poetry.  Please go back to cleaning out condoms with your tongue.

Snowman391045 reads

EVEN MORE HOMOSEXUAL REFERENCES!!!!

Come on out of the closet....It's OK....

snowball391254 reads

your snowballing practices with other gay, right-wing loonies on this board.
PS:  I find it hilarious you continue to believe this is Priapus!  Do you think he's the only one to find you ludicrous?  Not hardly!  But go ahead, keep accusing him of using this alias.  We both find it funny as hell.  ROFLMAO!

Snowman392060 reads

Deny, Deny, Deny....

It
It's OK, little Priap...

snowball391508 reads

in the wrong direction.  You are more fun than a pinata!

snowball392668 reads

The pinata analogy would only hold up until snowhole was busted open.  Then we'd see he was just full of shit!

Snowman391236 reads

Perhaps you should think about getting a real life. If you have so much time to pst under phony names...

Kind of sad really, like watching a kid with imaginary friends...

snowball391159 reads

across the boards.  Are you obsesed with getting the last word?  Don't you realize how ridiculous you look pursuing an alias created to taunt you?  Not to mention insisting it's someone else you know?  What a clown you are!   BWaaaaahahahahaha!!!!!!!

Dacker1726 reads

There is another issue that I think will keep the republicans from getting a strong candidate in the next election.
The fact of the mater is that the current cuts being pushed, even if they all get through, will not be enough to hit the deficit.
We are going to need cuts to military, medicare and soc security; and more taxes.  People are going to be pissed and whoever singes it into law, their political career will be over.
You will not get a Republican President to do this in his/her first term.  
Unless you get a kamikaze Tea Party candidate, which would not happen due to the independent vote.  Even that would probably not work due to the taxes that will be needed.

Obama proved one thing with the health care reform bill, regardless of the known political fall out, he will do what he thinks is necessary to address a major problem.
If we put a republican in office in 2012, there will not be any major progress on the deficit till 2016 at the earliest.

Posted By: mattradd
tasting medicine to get the cure you're seeking.

Another way to frame it; is there really any separation between fiscal conservatism and social conservatism in the Republican party? As much as the Republicans will try to get a fiscal conservative candidate on the ballot, they will be sweating profusely knowing that their social conservative slip is still showing, and hoping all their fear inducing rhetoric will distract voters, particularly Independents, from noticing. Good luck with that!

I was specifically addressing fiscal conservatives who want some solutions to the national debt. I was assuming they, most likely, would not be voting Democrat. Try reading the post and not give your knee-jerk reaction. ;)

GaGambler1438 reads

Do you think people like me LIKE to align ourselves with religious nut jobs?

Fiscal conservatives/social liberals/moderates like me have always had to hold our collective noses when voting for a Republican. It kind of goes with the territory, some times our wallets are more important, sometimes not.

This election may see me voting for one party for POTUS and the other in the Congressional and Senate races. Religious pukes are dangerous IMO, but idiot Dems are just as scary for a host of other reasons.

Hopefully, I've pissed both sides off, and now since I am in the Bahamas and it's a gorgeous fucking day, I have drinking to do. Cya lmao

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