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Any predictions in the US Senate race in AL on 12-12-17???
GaGambler 1650 reads
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Forget about who you "want" to win the election, but who do you "think" is going to win?

 

I think anyone who gets all their news from CNN or the other liberal news outlets would believe that Roy Moore doesn't stand a chance. I further believe that most "Blue Stater's" also believe that Roy Moore is "going down" to borrow a phrase from one of this board worst prognosticators. But I think anyone who has actually spent any time in Alabama knows that just like with Trump, what people say in public or to the pollsters can be very different from what they do when alone in the voting booth.  

 
I predict that not only is Roy Moore going to win, but that he is going to win rather handily, not by 20 percentage points like he would have before the sexual allegations, but still by a comfortable margin.  Are any of you libs up for a small wager?

 
BTW, I personally find Roy Moore to be reprehensible and I have felt that way long before most of you had ever heard of him, but my personal feelings aside, I bet you he's going to win.

Having lived in Southern Alabama (Pensacola, FL), I had no doubt that Moore would win. However, with the new write-in candidate, Lee Busby, I have no idea how that will affect Moore or Jones. It could be a wash, in that it will affect both equally.

I don't believe the current polls putting Jones ahead. Too many people lie in these polls, embarrassed to say they'll vote for Moore.
And it's been a while since anyone new has come forward to accuse him, which lets his supporters brush the whole thing off.

By the time Moore is due to be sworn in, Sessions has gotten on Trump's bad side again and whispers in McConnell's ear that if Moore is removed he'll accept Gov. Ivey tapping him to replace Moore.  That solves everyone's problems and the Republicans can look like they are once again anti-pedophile.
Also a thumb in the eye to Bannon.

You must be drinking because your scenario sounds quite plausible to me. I can really see this, or something very similar happening. Outside of Alabama I don't think anybody wants to see Moore in the US Senate, not even his fellow Republicans, but they don't want a Democrat to win either. As you said "this solves everyone's problems"

 
BTW, I would like to point out that most Republicans do NOT support Roy Moore, Trump not included of course. Trump of course "could" get an attack of conscience "after the fact" when the seat has gone Republican, and get behind this too, especially considering Moore wasn't his man to begin with.

Fuck all the polls, with Lee Busby entering the race as a write in independent it is too close to call.

 Based what I’ve heard and read about Busby I’m rooting for him….as I said not forgetting about who I want to win

Mr.M.Johnson47 reads

Seems like Alabamans thinks “so what if he fucked 14 year-olds when he was 32 - it’s irrelevant”. “So what if he was kicked of the Court.....twice”  “So what if he thinks HomoSexuals....and Muslims should be in a special place in Hell”...”none of that matters!”
Some of you may wanna debate the first point, but, the latter two are facts!

We really have some genuine pieces of shit running this country..I cannot believe anyone who believes in any form of Christianity would vote for this fucking scum..

Posted By: Mr.M.Johnson
Re: Looks like Pediphile Moore will win!
Seems like Alabamans thinks “so what if he fucked 14 year-olds when he was 32 - it’s irrelevant”. “So what if he was kicked of the Court.....twice”  “So what if he thinks HomoSexuals....and Muslims should be in a special place in Hell”...”none of that matters!”  
 Some of you may wanna debate the first point, but, the latter two are facts!

But even if he wins, the GOP will likely censure him and relegate him to a glorified janitorial position.  Jones would be the better choice, because he leans toward the conservative side of things and is somebody the GOP could negotiate with and create a bridge across the aisle.

But yeah, the GOP Senate will likely get a proven pedophile in its ranks.  Fortunately Moore is an unhealthy old fart and may very well expire on the trip to DC.

but naturally I disagree with you on virtually everything else including,  but not limited to both your claims that number one Jones "leans conservative" which even this link from CNN shows is hardly the case and secondly that Moore is a "proven" pedophile. I guess you never learned the difference between "accused" and "proven"

 
Furthermore, the polls might have it close, but the bookies have Moore as a 4-9 favorite. I don't really see this race as being "too close to call" If I got all my news from liberal sources I might see it that way, but I've spent some time in Alabama, and I don't see any way a democrat gets elected, even if he's running against an "accused" pedophile.  In the immortal words of Eddie Edwards, I think he would have to be caught with either a "dead girl or a live boy" for him to lose this election.

 
Back to the one point where we do agree, I think Roy Moore is a FUCKING NUT, but he's odds on favorite to win for a reason.

Trolling for young girls on TER is our god given right as mongers.  Those girls are willing and voluntary participants, so no harm no foul.  

A 32 year old man trolling for 14 - 16 year old girls at the mall or hanging around outside high schools is a pedophile regardless of what the law says.  Incidentally, Alabama, age of consent laws were enacted at a time when they desperately needed population increases and life expectancy was about 45 years.  They are antiquated and are not in line with modern mores and values.  

So yes, to the vast majority of the rest of the country, it’s proven Moore is a pedophile.  Not all oroof happens at a court trial.  People are allowed to make up their own minds and clearly have.  

He is definitely right leaning as that article you tagged shows.  Of course I say that because we are so polarized these days that centrists in both parties are deemed as traitors.

a Blue Dog Democrat, than Moore, hanging, like an albatross, around their necks.

Mr.M.Johnson46 reads

than Alabama - or maybe Mississippi or Kentucky - Moore wouldn’t get 20% of the vote.
It’s comic-relief for me to hear all these deniers of Moore’s Pediphilia.  Think about it - what they’re saying is that these 10-12 women met for coffee before their shift at Wal-Mart in East Bum-Fuck, AL, and all agreed to make their stories up....and convince a lotta other people to collaborate.....

and one of them has to be lying, either now or when she got her job at the place that has a minimum hiring age of 16, which happens to be the age of consent in Alabama.

 
Only one of Moore's accusers is accusing him of anything that would be considered a crime and that woman is Leigh Corfman. Personally I don't find her 40 year old accusation all that credible although I am willing to believe the worst about Roy Moore as I personally can't stand the man.  

 
Most of the allegations against Moore are for being "creepy" and for trying to "date" women in their late teens at the "ripe old age" of thirty or so. News flash guys, I am still seeing women just over 18 and I don't find it creepy at all. I am not hanging out at high schools to do it since we have this new thing called the internet, but I routinely sleep with women almost forty years younger than me, and so do many of the guys here on TER. Keep in mind that Roy Moore ended up marrying one of these "young girls" and has stayed with her for several decades.

HappyChanges54 reads

with voters that his wife still supports him and is a avid defender. I think he will win if no other accusations come up before the election.  

Older men have been going after younger women since the beginning of time.

Mr.M.Johnson50 reads

that older men like younger women...and it’s been that way FOREVER.
However, I’m suggesting that 32 and 14 is a lot different than, say, 45 and 27....or 55 and 37.
Melania is 24 years younger than Trump....this ain’t pretty since Orange-Face kooks minimally 78, not 71. (I digressed)

Mr.M.Johnson50 reads

Gambler, Gambler, Gambler, lemme help you try and help you understand something.  There’s a Bigly difference between fucking 18 year old TER ladies who are fucking for $money, and, “dating” 18 year olds when someone is 32. Yeah, the latter is creepy, and yeah, it’s legal, but, more importantly an 18 year old girl isn’t emotionally ready for that kind of “relationship.”  My daughter is older than 18 now, but I can remember back a few years and tell ya that she wasn’t emotionally and matured enuff to be in any kind of relationship with a 32 year old.

And/but, more importantly, it’s Moore’s “record” of being kicked off the bench twice and his outright hatred of HomoSexuals and Muslims which should not only disqualify him from being in any Office - it should also disqualify him from living in America

But,looks like he’s gonna win!  He was ahead in the polls before this stuff came out, he fell behind when it came out, and now he’s ahead.  He’s got momentum

Sad, very fucking sad

Please stick to the subject at hand. Moore's other and numerous faults aside we are talking about him being a pedophile, and that assertion is hardly a "fact"  

 
I was dating an 18 year old when I was 48, her and I are still friends, so I guess you can call me "creepy" too if you like, but it doesn't make me a pedophile and except for the one accuser, nothing else I have heard makes me believe that Roy Moore is a pedophile by anything but the very loosest use of the term, a use so loose I imagine it would apply to me as well as I am almost certain that at some point in my life I have been with some one under 18 when I was well over 21.

 
Hate Roy Moore for all the very valid reasons he deserves your contempt, but him being a pedophile is still very much in doubt. If he really were a pedophile and chasing 14 year olds, wouldn't you think that at least one of his accusers would be accusing him of actually having sex with them?  

 
What is really so surprising about this? Look at how many times Ted Fucking Kennedy was reelected despite being an even bigger POS in his personal life than Roy Moore could ever be.  There are some places where even a murderer can be elected if he's a Dem and other places where even an accused sex offender can be elected if he's a Rep.

 
I bet you wouldn't be so "sad" about this if it were a Dem running against a Rep, you would almost certainly rationalize it somehow as being for the "greater good" if the election were to tip the balance of power to the left.

Mr.M.Johnson54 reads

per Gambler, is “who do we think will win in AL.”  My point is that despite Moore’s pediphilia and creepiness and his hate for HomoSexulas and Muslims it looks like he’s gonna win
And, Gambler, when you were 48 and wanted to date my 18 year old daughter, you wouldn’t have a chance - believe-me!

Mr.M.Johnson41 reads

I didn’t read his full post here - I creeped out when he mentioned he dated an 18 year old when he was 48.  Kinda lost my temper because my daughter ain’t that far removed from 18.
Now that I read the rest of his post, he’s got me all wrong! Ted Fucking Kennedy shoulda been in jail. If R.Moore was a Dem, I’d throw him in jail or worse if I had the opportunity. I ain’t as 110% biased as most on this Board.  Yep, I call Hillary Crooked Hillary but I still voted for her because she’s a far better choice than Trump.  Turns out I was right!

You will only make him even more obnoxious, if that's even possible. LOL.  If you swell his head even more he won't be able to fit through doorways.

Gomer Pyle has died.  Jim Nabors was probably one of the most famous Alabamans to have ever lived.  He was also gay.  I think a lot of folks are going to go with the sympathy vote and that is bad for Moore.  

I will take 5/2 on the pedophile..

I'm gonna throw a wrench into your lil pea brain ideal that "liberals" think that Moore will loose in a landslide....I think, no I know Moore will win, by 6 pts.
You can't change stupid in Alabama, it's in their culture to support a cockroach like Moore.

I have no faith in the dumb assess down South that they will make an ethical decision .The South  will never change ,' they are who they are'.. a landslide victory for Moore.....surprise me if you dare.

"Doug Jones is outspending Judge Roy Moore 10-to-1 on the Alabama airwaves"
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/doug-jones-outspending-roy-moore-10-1-airwaves-n824281

   After Alabama  lost to  Auburn,  looks to me  it's their year for upsets.  

  I don't want anyone with Judge in front of their name to be writing laws.

 
 I believe one of the main reasons the  economy has been improving year after year is directly due to the to the drop of attorneys in Government.  Less attorneys = Less corruption and Incompetence.
   
  Think about it, most attorneys knowledge is restricted to  their specialized field, nothing more.
  More attorneys are duped by strippers and hookers than any other group of citizens.  
  I'm not saying all attorneys are gullible but many attorneys have proven they are certainly incompetent  
     outside their field.  
   
  It's bad for America when attorneys write laws and worse for  the World when an attorney is President.
  Look at Libya and Egypt after easily duped attorney Obama failed miserably  at foreign policy    
   
   A Judge is nothing more than an attorney with Power.

   
  I'm hoping Doug Jones wins.  
  If attorney Doug  doesn't win he'll go down as a Huge incompetent Failure.
 
  Not as big a Failure as  Dunce Queen HRC but definitely a BIg Loser.  

 Bottom line: Regardless who wins Alabama lost.

Also, Moore doesn't need to run ads, he's getting tons of free TV coverage.  Just like Trump did.

"He's a politician. You know the ethics those guys have. It's like a notch underneath child molester."  
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Posted By: GaGambler

Forget about who you "want" to win the election, but who do you "think" is going to win?  
   I think anyone who gets all their news from CNN or the other liberal news outlets would believe that Roy Moore doesn't stand a chance. I further believe that most "Blue Stater's" also believe that Roy Moore is "going down" to borrow a phrase from one of this board worst prognosticators. But I think anyone who has actually spent any time in Alabama knows that just like with Trump, what people say in public or to the pollsters can be very different from what they do when alone in the voting booth.  
   
   
 I predict that not only is Roy Moore going to win, but that he is going to win rather handily, not by 20 percentage points like he would have before the sexual allegations, but still by a comfortable margin.  Are any of you libs up for a small wager?  
   
   
 BTW, I personally find Roy Moore to be reprehensible and I have felt that way long before most of you had ever heard of him, but my personal feelings aside, I bet you he's going to win.
 I'm wondering about a few things now that  the Alabama special election  is over.  

Gambler, Did you hedge your bets enough to win on Moore's loss ?  
  Yeah I know, smart gamblers  often play both sides to win.  

Wouldn't be gambling if picking winners straight up is easy.

I wonder how many MAGA President Trump supporters are happy Moore lost.  
Count me in. :-D
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/doug-jones-is-a-shoe-in--how-could-he-lose-outspending-judge-roy-moore-ten-to-one----324336?page=

Is Happy still happy this morning after Doug Jones win?  
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/im-sure-it-helps-324267?page=

One out of a hundred I agree with Matt.
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/i-agree-it-would-seem-that-the-republican-would-be-better-off-with-324261?page=

Will  boobbrain  continue to believe Alabama is comprised of dumbasses ?  
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/roy-moore---winner-324320?page=

As usual school yard child jake is wrong, no surprise there.
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/politics-and-religion-39/easy--hes-a-democrat-in-on-of-the-reddest-states-in-the-country-324374?page=

Congratulations on your win,  Doug Jones  
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/13/trump-hillary-clinton-and-others-congratulate-doug-jones-on-alabama-victory.html

Except for one brief period of time the other day when the odds sharply reversed Moore was the odds on favorite and I NEVER give odds that long on a "real bet".  

 
It was weird, Moore was a 1-6 favorite for weeks and then it's like the bookies knew something was up or a bunch of "smart money" came in on Jones as the line flip flopped making Jones about a 1-2 favorite, only to flip flop again a few hours later back to Moore becoming the favorite by the same odds of about 1-2.

 
The problem with these kind of bets is that there isn't enough action on them and the spreads are too wide to even try to "arbitrage" the bets. Your timing would have had to have been perfect to catch Jones at 7/2 and then turn around and middle the bet with Moore at 2-1 as he was only that long for the briefest of time.

 
As for my feelings about who won, if there was ever a choice between a shit sandwich and a giant douche, this was it. Sir Charles was right, the entire country is now absolutely convinced that Alabamans are idiots. I would have voted for you well before either of the two choices offered to the Alabaman voters. Great job Alabama.

HappyChanges51 reads

that the democrats gained a Senate seat. Especially one from Alabama. That's what happens when you have an awful candidate.

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