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Looking for someone with British Airways miles.  I'm headed to London and only want to go First Class.  Please PM me if you have lots and lots of miles.

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The problem is not the miles its the availability of the reward seats.
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BA miles have good award availability.  The problem is the fuel surcharges and taxes to depart London.  With the outrageous fuel surcharges using BA miles on British Airways planes to cross the Atlantic is terrible and cheaper to get Wow Air for $69.  The best way to use Wow Air is to get a cardboard box exactly the free carry on size, fashion a handle with duct tape, because they will charge for oversize carry ons and checked baggage.  

Also to depart London is a bad idea.  You would want to fly into London and depart from a low tax country like Norway which has the lowest departure taxes.  Until Condor starts their PHX-FRA route, then BA is basically the only direct flight to Europe from PHX I think.  

BA First Class uses the PHX lounge on the second floor, which has a shower in the bathroom across the hall.  However, anyone can use the shower not needing to be a lounge member.  

I believe there’s a direct flight from Frankfurt to Phoenix as we’ll?

Not until 2018

Posted By: DSixx
Re: Phx-Germany  
I believe there’s a direct flight from Frankfurt to Phoenix as we’ll?

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Sometimes on a long flight may want to break up flight vs non-stop especially when your 6'1"or more like I am.

I am pricing trips to Frankfort to go to FKK clubs next June.  WIth one-stops it's running about $1100 RT economy couch from Phx. I have price alert set up with Google.  

However, Condor air will start non-stop service Phx-Frankfort in May so I will be comparing prices.  

Phoenix Sky Harbor will soon offer nonstop flights between Phoenix and Frankfurt, Germany. Condor Airlines, part of the Thomas Cook Group, will fly on Mondays and Fridays from next May through September between Phoenix Sky Harbor and the Frankfurt Airport.  

The Phoenix City Council recently voted to approve an updated airline incentive program, allowing for funds to promote a new overseas flight, as well as fee waivers to offset airport costs when an airline starts new international service.  

“We are pleased to bring Condor’s award-winning, three-class service at attractive prices to Phoenix and the whole state of Arizona and to give the local people a unique choice for their travels to Germany and beyond,” said Christoph Debus, CEO Thomas Cook Group Airlines. “With our numerous partner airlines we offer flights beyond Frankfurt to over 120 destinations across Europe.”

Condor will operate a Boeing 767-300ER with 259 seats in business, premium and economy classes of service on this long-haul flight. All Condor passengers receive complimentary checked baggage, beverages, meals and in-flight entertainment. Condor’s Business Class features lie-flat seats, a personal in-seat, premium touch-screen entertainment system, power and USB ports at every seat and gourmet, five-course meals with complimentary wine, beer and cocktails. Business Class passengers also have access to priority check-in and business class lounges at most airports. Premium Class features seats with added legroom, leg rests and adjustable headrests, a premium in-flight, in-seat entertainment system with an extended program, USB ports at every seat, premium meals and complimentary beverages.

Beginning May 18, 2018, Condor will leave Phoenix Mondays at around 11PM, arriving in Germany at 7PM the next day. The flight will leave Germany around 5:30PM, arriving Phoenix at 9PM.  On Fridays Condor will leave Phoenix around 5PM, arriving in Germany at 1PM the next day. In Germany it will leave at around 11:30AM on Fridays, arriving Phoenix at 3PM.  A grand opening ceremony and promotional activities will be planned for next year.

I would like to see a schedule change on this for it to leave a few hours earlier and get to Deutschland way before 12 noon so that connections can be made.  FRA is not really the cheapest pooning place to be anyway and more of a transit point.  FRA is home of the +50 cim upcharge if you can find someone willing to break the law on bbbj there.  Better areas have only a +25 cim upcharge.  

Also I would like to see a redeye return flight from FRA.  They used to have some redeye return flights from OSL to various places in the USA on Norwegien air which was really cheap way, way less than the $1000 rates more like $130 or less depending on the dates.  

This will make the PHX lounge more crowded than it already is.  

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Leaving and arriving times seem ideal in my view.  I will taxi or uber from the airport to hotel and to FKK's.  I am not interested in just cheap - the small entry fee and like $US100/hour for gal you pick and talk with etc from the huge selection of nude gals everywhere to meet in an FKK is far less than a $300 hr escort here which I would never pay.  Hotel costs are similar to what I pay in Toronto for a nice hotel. Travel costs, of course, are much higher vs about $350 RT to Toronto on Air Canada.  

I have zero interest in CIM (ick) or BBBJ (I value the health of both of us more).  For my interest in meeting naked women and exploring personality in their huge open lounge areas, and finding the right intimacy connection for the moment is far more meaningful for me than just specific sex acts.   This is why I enjoy Toronto options so much for over a decade.  However, the more I read about FKK clubs the more interested I am. in Germany - especially the famous large ones in Frankfort.   There is a lot of info here in the FKK section and other boards.  

This Germany topic is totally off topic from original question about London but somewhat related.

Taxis and Uber are very inconvenient.  Also I hate carrying a smart phone around they are too big and cumbersome.  I wish they could make a small flip phone that could get on the uber system.

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