And by "Get It", I mean: Men only "want/need" one thing!  Why do these women insist upon trying to fool themselves (and this is what leads to men having to play the "pretend game") that men are looking for the same kinds of things women are looking for? (Romance, entertainment, security, whatever!).

I swear to God, the frustration in dating when you run across SO many women who are in denial just makes hobbying that much more acceptable for the "lifetime solution". I pretty much play the dating game by the "3 date rule".  Why is it that some civvy woman has NO PROBLEM consuming my copiously-available money in meals and drinks and what have you, over the course of 3 dates... but then when she does NOT put out, she has this surprised exclamation of "all he wanted was SEX".  DUH freaking DUH!!!!  Are women really that clueless or so freaking ensconsed in denial that they simply refuse to understand how simple men are?

Men are used to making things happen in their lives.  We are "providers".  I can provide for ANY OTHER NEED I have in life, save ONE.  I don't "need" anything else from a woman but sex.  No, not even companionship, because I have friends.  I will say, yes, it would be NICE to have a woman one could settle down with as a companion, but I don't need it so damn bad that I am going to play some stupid freaking game and "pretend" like I want something OTHER than sex...just so I can GET sex!

Yes, it's true... I don't "get" the female animal.  If you ask me, those damn, stuck-up civvies play WAY more games than us straight-forward guys.  At least I am up-front about my motives!

I guess I need some counseling from the community... Anyone have any salient thoughts?

Hey dude!!Make it clear to the women you date, you say you are up front about your motives, then why the three dates? Next time you ask a girl out just say you just want to do her and if she says no then you will not have to treat her to three dinners. Be sure and make it clear!!Just having a little fun with you. Have a good day. BJN

based and supported largely on duplicity, hypocrisy, and metric tons of BULLSHIT.

 I personally gave up civvie dating altogether several years back because there is absolutely NO benefit to be gained from it. Civvie women are nothing more than societally condoned ROBs, whoring under a gossamer thin veil of acceptability called "a relationship" where they manipulate and create "shortage" while relentlessly demanding higher and higher per diem benefits.

They're delusional, in denial, and largely in-fucking-sane.

I’d sooner have cherry red hot pokers hammered into my ocular cavities than to deal with the inane contrivances and dogmas associated with civilian dating.

You need to stick to providers. If all you want to do is fuck, providers will give you a much better cost/benefit ratio.

When it comes to the opposite sex, most people want a bit more than the best fuck for their dollar. If you do not, TER is the perfect place for you.

the female human has evolved to have sex only with men who they believe can take care of their offspring and will stick around to do so. Sex with random and/or unattractive guys is against their nature, which is why we pay for it.

If you're really interested in the female psyche, the recently ascendant seduction community has done a pretty good job figuring it out. Eg

LAchineseguy and OCSir both making the same excellent point.  There is a difference between a nurturing relationship with a woman and just fucking.   Don't get me wrong, if you are in your fuck years, then by all means hobby away and get it out of your system.   In time though, you may want a more fulfilling relationship with someone that you can settle down with and create a life with.  That may or may not involve kids and family but I hope for your sake that you come to realize that women offer a very different kind of companionship/relationship than your male buddies can.  Simply viewing all women as fuck objects will eventually affect all your relationships (man, woman, kids, siblings, parents, etc).

it could actually be worse.  For example, You could find that special someone who puts out like the energizer bunny so you then unwittingly take the plunge into the M pool only to find out that she wants to "change" you and thereby alters all rules of the game.  You could then find yourself in a rapidly deteriorating situation where once a day, becomes once a week, becomes once a month, becomes I forgot what I'm supposed to do its been so long and the word atrophy enters your vocabulary.
Take my advice young skywalker, use that light saber like there's no tomorrow and don't apologize to anyone!!

ha! me too!
I do like men too take me to baseball games.
I like them to drive too.
I guess that's what affairs are for.

This is a pathetic post in my opinion (eom)

What else is there to say?

I mean really???



These days, women are riding the wave of feminism, and men are the tide rolling out.

We are the butt of all jokes, and any REAL manhood is frowned on and spit on, and accused of the worse things....

If you are a strong man, you're really a "caveman", or "misogynist", etc, etc............


Now if you wanna kiss their asses and play the fool, you can exist in a state of self delusion, and a false acceptance....................


This is exactly why I switched to hobbying.


And also why I listen to Tom Leykis, though everything he says and preaches, I'm not down with....

I don't want to get sucked into being a mean dude, just to get laid....   I mean at this point, I'm older, and I don't need it as often; However if I was younger, I would go back to being that way.  

I USED to be that way for a while, and then I got into a relationship, and tried being righteous.  Two years later, she felt as though she was worth too much, to settle with just one man, with all the attention she gets.................

almost every American woman is like this these days -  very simple minded (though they endlessly profess to the contrary), and get off on the attention, yet the attention is only based on one thing, which is what you said in the OP -  we want to fuck.

So why would women get off on this?

Because they want to THINK that they are more evolved, or deeper, because that is what feminism tells them, so they DELUDE themselves.....  



I could go on and on about this one....


It IS really sad.

Dude, it's not you, and do NOT listen to these dudes who are trying to say the "politically correct" thing....


I've tried the whole "meaningful relationship" thing, over and over again..........

these days, it is VERY difficult.

Feminism has killed a lot of things, including chivalry, and that is why the divorce rate is 50%.


A lot of dudes still haven't woken up yet, either because they have had their balls taken away, or because they simply don't want to see the ugly reality, but unfortunately -  it is what it is.


Listen to Tom Leykis.


I don't believe/agree with everything he says, but he will at least open up your eyes to exactly what is going on.


Just like yesterday, when he addressed the false notion of making women feel "special"........

WHY, would any man, make a woman feel special these days?

Women asked for equality, and want to be treated just like men.

So if you THEN ask to be treated "special", you want to have your cake and eat it to.


The only dudes that go along with this, are the simps and the suckers.

Sounds like a pretty lonely life.

"Simply viewing all women as fuck objects will eventually affect all your relationships (man, woman, kids, siblings, parents, etc)."

Very insightful.

If you try to have a civilian type relationship with a provider where you are not paying $$$ I think you might be surprised at how similar that is to your current relationships with civilian women.  

However in their role as a provider the lady is primarily interested in exchanging her services for your money.