Newbie - FAQ

First Incall
NewbieOne 3011 reads
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Hi I am scheduling my first Incall. I got a heads up from another client that sometimes the Incall the provider I am interested in use's is questionable.
Can I get some advice on negotiating a UTR type Incall location?

My options are limited so just moving to someone who advertises 4 star and above locations is not an option

The Mad Hatter visits Alice quite often..

... that is mutually acceptable.  But that then becomes an outcall situation rather than an incall, if this provider is going to be there only to see you.  Thus I think she'll expect you to pay for the room.  If instead she'll use this place for other clients besides you, then I think it's fair to expect her to pay for the room, and she can include that expense when figuring her rates.

...his name.  Even if she pays him back for the room to be able to use it for other clients, the room will still be in his name.  A john should NEVER let a hooker use a room that's in his name.

How does he provide an alternate site without getting the room in his name.

He would put the room in his name if he books the room, she comes to see him there, and then she leaves.  

If she wants to use the room for other clients, then she needs to put it in her own name.  

Not that hard, is it?

And no, I'm not a lawyer.

NewbieOne117 reads

Can I say I want an Incall but not at a place that's a short stay or known by LE?

choice as to where the incall is located. If it is a hotel, she picks the hotel, pays for the room, sees you and possibly other hobbyists either before you or after you.

Sounds like you might need to pick a different provider since you are concerned about her choice of incall location.

You can start by asking (email? text? voice?). "I am really looking forward to our meeting next Tuesday.  Can you give me the general location so I can plan my commute to arrive on time?"  (Google maps / Waze is really good at giving travel times, and you can set the arrival time to your time and day.) In some places (big cities with named neighborhoods), the answer will give you a clue about the nature of the incall.  
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If she says, "Of course. We will meet in Upscale East, not far from the Luxurious Store." it lets you narrow it down to the local hotels, most of which are probably 3+ or even 4+. "Of course. We will meet in Muggers' Paradise, not far from the city satellite morgue. Be sure to lock your car and set the alarm. And bring some clean towels. I might run out by the time you get there." lets you check out likely kinds of accommodations in that area. If it's Skanky Hotel and Motels-R-Us you can make a counter offer.  
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"Oh. The motels in that area make me nervous. Are you able to find a nicer place, maybe in the Nice Neighborhood? I'll offset the difference in the cost of the room. I just want us both to be comfortable in a nice place." and not have to worry about getting lice or infections from the sheets ... assuming they even have sheets on the torn up mattresses. Also, I don't want your pimp or boyfriend to be able to bust through a door made of cardboard and rob me.  
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You'll have to assess your rapport with her based on prior communications and phrase things as your can. If you are polite but YOU GET HARSH BLOW BACK OR A BAD ATTITUDE, you can use that as a guide as to whether you want to continue with your meeting or cancel and see someone else.

Posted By: NewbieOne

Hi I am scheduling my first Incall. I got a heads up from another client that sometimes the Incall the provider I am interested in use's is questionable.  
 Can I get some advice on negotiating a UTR type Incall location?  
   
 My options are limited so just moving to someone who advertises 4 star and above locations is not an option

Tell her that you are particular about the quality of hotel you go to.  It should be 3 star or better.   If cost is a factor, you'll make up the difference.

 
If she balks, then walk.

NewbieOne110 reads

Have an appointment for tomorrow... here is what I know... 20 + reviews most recent within the last two months. P411 ...has webpage ... contacted a few members and they verified the providor in question is legit....
Told her 3 star and above for Incall she said no problem  

First  Incall so I am super nervous.. I think I checked all the right boxes... but still nervous about it being Incall were my research says stings happen  
Tell me I am being paranoid.. I need convincing for some reason

Julian7113 reads

The unbearable excitement of anticipation...
Cost of having an hour of good time = a few hundred bucks
The excitement leading up to it = priceless

For now, try a shot of Wild Turkey.   It did the trick for me way back in the beginning.

NewbieOne107 reads

Have I missed anything ? Any reason to think it's going to be a sting or something... nerves are shot right now

Julian7115 reads

Ask her to show you a boob (or two) before crossing the threshold.

GaGambler136 reads

If she is a cop, that's not going to stop you from being arrested, all it's going to do is speed up the process. Once you show up at an LE sting, you are almost certainly going to be arrested no matter what you say or do. Two dozen recent reviews and a P411 profile pretty much ensures he is NOT walking into a sting.

 
That said, it is wise to not do things that will make "prosecution" a slam dunk, things like mentioning sex and money in the same sentence. Usually the first thing I do upon entering an incall is to pull her in close for a nice DFK.  That usually sets the tone for the rest of the session.

Julian7125 reads

Relax guys, he just needed some sort of reassurance to feel at ease...
On one hand, nothing will stop an arrest if the officer wants to arrest you. Heck, they recently arrested a nurse in Utah who was doing her job. On the other hand, asking for a boob might save you from a conviction unless you were stupid enough to discuss p4p beforehand.

...enjoy. If you choose to use mrfisher's method remember "a drink" not "some drinks".  

 
I'll add here I hope the poster that recommended getting her to show a boob or two before crossing the threshold was kidding. It's a very bad idea. 1. She won't like it. 2. That is proof of nothing regarding a possibility of a sting.  

 
You have done the research. Enjoy the anticipation and don't try to get that grin off your face once the session is over.

while it is probable that if you show to a sting room, you get arrested no matter what you do or say... if a girl shows you a titty, or lets you grope one, SHE IS NOT A COP AND YOU ARE SAFE.  Do you really think Lady Cops want we gross Johns touching their lady parts?  No way.

NewbieOne already reported the completion of a successful mission, but your comment needs to be rebutted.

Posted By: digdirkler
Re: Proof of something
while it is probable that if you show to a sting room, you get arrested no matter what you do or say... if a girl shows you a titty, or lets you grope one, SHE IS NOT A COP AND YOU ARE SAFE.  Do you really think Lady Cops want we gross Johns touching their lady parts?  No way.
First of all, "if a girl shows you a titty, or lets you grope one, SHE IS NOT A COP AND YOU ARE SAFE" is not necessarily true.  
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BUT NEITHER IS THE CONVERSE: "If she is not a cop (is a Provider) she will show you a tit." NOT TRUE! Showing or groping is considered low class by many and if you ask for such a thing, you even stand a chance of being turned away on the grounds that she believes YOU to be either LE, a schmuck or both.
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BUT NEITHER IS THE INVERSE: "If a girl DOES NOT show you a tittly, or lets your grope one, SHE IS NOT _NOT_ A COP AND YOU ARE SAFE." (If she doesn't show, she is a cop.)  NOT TRUE!  
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The contrapositive: If she is _not_ not a cop (is not a Provider and is a cop), then she will not show you a tit. TRUE, but useless.  
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The "LE check" is legally useless. It might be fun, but if initiated by the client, it can ruin the session going forward or end it before it even begins. READ HER REVIEWS.

NewbieOne145 reads

Thank you for the advice all.  
Also being obsessed with research as part of prep I look for arrest logs online. Many people caught in stings also get charged with assault for groping the undercover so pro tip don't do that :-)

Thanks again everyone

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Do not EVER visit a 1-star hotel; secure a room yourself (at your own financial risk but bid a 2-Star Priceline...Extended Stay America generally); reach out on the boards here; check out the hotel beforehand for activity...some things you can do to feel more comfortable.

I used to book 2-star Extended Stays and they were fine but with the new location rating...I secure "up."  I have SEVERAL clients who have been busted in 1-stars in DC...sometimes another gentlemen would be leaving upon arrival or others in the room without prior arrangement...RUN.

Most importantly...trust your gut and if she has several reviews...that might mean something.  Stay Safe!

I understand you are looking to be at ease about seeing your chosen girl. I have seen some advice on here that make sense if you are concerned with LE. To book the hotel in advance in your name and make it an outcall. Why? Because no LE would go to an outcall for a sting. Incall LE controls the situation where an out call they cannot.  

From what you stated it sounds like the option of a 4 star hotel is out of the question. Proceed by as told by others to communicate with each other and to agree on a location you are both comfortable with an incall.

You have been offered some good advice by me and many. You got this and have fun and if you already had your date; hope you both had a great time.

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